Crunchy Con

Covering Islam in America

Thursday January 31, 2008

Categories: Islam, Media
Here's a pretty great interview from ReligionWriter.com, an impressive blog run by Andrea Useem, a religion writer and American convert to Islam. The interview subject is my pal Terry Mattingly. Andrea and Terry talk about the difficulties of reporters writing...
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AnotherBeliever
January 31, 2008 3:22 PM

Islam is huge and complex. There aren't recognizable hierarchies and organizations which speak for the faith as a whole. The faith varies from the very mystic lines of thought of Sufi Islam to the emotional devotions and commemorations of Shi'a Islam to the iconoclastic simple Sunni Islam. There are competing figures of authority in each of these branches of the faith, to say nothing of the disagreements between each branch. There are militants of every persuasion.

The best way to learn the complexities is to get a basic grasp on the historic timeline, and then get to know a few Muslims. The timeline helps because Islam did not come out of nothing, and many of its greatest feasts and most important practices commemorate specific historical events. The military events in early Islam set "the rules" for who to engage in war, and why and how. The differences of interpretations of these rules lead to the contradictions between the popular statement "Islam is a religion of peace" and the very real fact that Muslims are killing women and children, many of whom are Muslim themselves!

History also accounts for the schism between Sunni and Shi'a factions. It will also give an idea of the cultural scope of the world of Islam. This world was for a number of centuries more religiously tolerant and developed than Europe, and Muslims played an important role in preserving the knowledge of the classics during the West's dark ages. Even if our roles have reversed in many ways, it helps to understand why the Islamic world does indeed have pride in its history and accomplishments.

It does no good to lump all potential adversaries together with our actual enemies. That simply snowballs the problem, makes the enemy this huge monolithic crazed monster. This is precisely what Bin Laden WANTS, for all Muslims, from the East to the West from Right to Left (if that makes any sense) to be set against the West in a fight to the death. The truth is, most of our potential adversaries are also potentially friends, or at least neutrals. It will take an understanding of the human faith lived out by real people, coupled with a basic historical understanding, before any of this makes sense.

Maybe you live in a small town and can't find any Muslims. But they're in most cities. See if there is a charity oriented towards new immigrants, or ESL classes which are attended by Sudanese or Bosnian immigrants. In many cases, these immigrants worship in a larger community consisting also of more fully integrated immigrants and natural born American Muslims. Maybe you could volunteer for clothing drives for new arrivees, or give a few hours tutoring English, or just offer to baby sit some children. You'll likely meet and even work with Muslims this way. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Muslims know we don't know much about their faith. They expect that. The more you listen and the less you talk, the quicker you'll learn. Be respectful and you will bring great credit to your own faith, if you hold one.

sigaliris
January 31, 2008 3:24 PM

Rod, since I've objected to some of your other posts on Islam, I wanted to make sure to thank you for linking to this article. I found it very enlightening and thoughtful. I liked Terry Mattingly's term of a "ghost" in a story. I think that applies to more than just religious news subjects. The first commenter at the linked site, Mark Preston, quoted Neil Poston, which I thought was highly relevant:

Since the treatment of serious issues as entertainment inherently prevents them from being treated as serious issues and indeed since serious issues have been treated as entertainment for so many decades now, the public is no longer aware of these issues in their original sense, but only as entertainment.

It's hard for me to see how tv news could ever handle the depth of information we need to have on complex subjects like worldwide Islam. Newspapers clearly haven't done such a great job, either. Maybe you should call on experts you know to put up a list of essential books we could all read to get the background we need!

harvey lacey
February 1, 2008 7:54 AM

I would also like to congratulate Rod on a great topic not contaminated with his usual "Islam is bad".

What made it even more interesting for me was the story that preceded it on the political problems in the RCC and Orthodox faiths. Those Christians had explanations and apologies for the human fraility of the leaders of their faith, something I'm sure they share with the majority of Muslims.

Alicia
February 1, 2008 1:57 PM

As I accidentally commented on the thread below, this is a great interview and an excellent post.

Marian Neudel
February 1, 2008 2:00 PM

It was refreshing to see this post, and the article, and the previous responses to this post. Many years ago I was in a PhD program in Islamic studies, working on a fringe of a fringe of a fringe area which, if I had stayed with it (and my advisor had not died) would have rendered me worth my weight in gold during the Iranian hostage crisis. Lately I've been rereading my advisor's magnum opus on the subject and being once again fascinated by the complexity of the history of Islam.

However, the article skims over one very important aspect of Islam, in saying "that American Muslim has no right to “fire” someone from being Muslim, at least no more right than al-Qaeda has to say that American Muslim isn’t Muslim." In fact, for one Muslim to say that another one "isn't Muslim" is pretty common in contentious times. It's called "takfir", meaning "to declare somebody an infidel." The Salafists and the Wahhabis indulge in it fairly often. Once somebody has been declared "an infidel," he or she becomes fair game for some very nasty stuff.

There are, of course, Christian and Jewish analogies to takfir, with which most readers of this blog are probably familiar, and to which some of us have probably been subjected. What we all need to be clear about is that any religion worth serious attention has developed a multiplicity of fringes of fringes of fringes, many of which excommunicate each other with wild abandon. When one of them acquires political or military power or gets into violence, it has to be checked out, but it cannot be equated with the entire tradition from which it springs.

Alicia
February 1, 2008 2:17 PM

That's a very insightful post, Marian. Thanks.

Jack
February 2, 2008 9:19 AM

A troubling aspect of Islam keeps coming up in the news. The "teddy bear" teacher for example. Under Sharia law this poor person was convicted and sentenced to a barbaric punishment. Another is the woman getting gang raped and sentenced under Sharia law to an absurd and barbaric punishment. In both cases many "believers" rioting for the death penalty. Most recently the reporter sentenced to death for passing out an insulting letter he didn't even write. It is hard to understand this kind of so called justice.
There are crazies in all walks of life and in every relegion without a doubt but the Saudi government running on crazy is very disturbing.
In trying to talk to Muslims about their faith it seems not even they understand it. It is kind of make it up as you go. Sharia law is subject to the mood of the tyrant in power at the time it seems.
In a way ,Osama, in his strict interpretation of islam, does indeed represent true Islam and anyone who does not agree with him is a hipocrate and an infidel. So....can the world survive this insane belief? Looking for carnal pleasure in heavenly places is just plain absurd. 72 virgins for all the martyrs? Give me a break. this is Islam and it is CRAZY!

Marian Neudel
February 4, 2008 8:07 PM

That's 72 virgins per martyr, Jack. And most literate Muslims take it as a metaphor, like the blond angels in white robes playing harps. And, while undoubtedly there are lots of Muslims who don't understand their faith and make it up as they go along, how exactly is that different from Christianity?

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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