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Huck's Beliefnet interview

Thursday January 17, 2008

Categories: Republicans

Check out Beliefnet's interview with Mike Huckabee. He elaborates on his remark that the Constitution should be amended to conform with "God's law":

I probably said it awkwardly, but the point I was trying to make– and I’ve said it better in the past – is that people sometimes say we shouldn’t have a human life amendment or a marriage amendment because the Constitution is far too sacred to change, and my point is, the Constitution was created as a document that could be changed. That’s the genius of it. The Bible, however, was not created to be amended and altered with each passing culture. If we have a definition of marriage, that we don’t change that definition, that we affirm that definition. And that the sanctity of human life is not just a religious issue. It’s an issue that goes to the very heart of our civilization of all people being equal, endowed by their creator with alienable rights of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That was the point. The Bible was not written to be amended. The Constitution was. Without amendments to the Constitution, women couldn’t vote, African-Americans wouldn’t be considered people. We have had to historically go back and to clarify, because there’ve been injustices made because the Constitution wasn’t as clear as it needed to be, and that’s the point.

He goes on to explain he was talking narrowly about amending the constitution to protect unborn life and traditional marriage, and nothing else:

I’m not suggesting that we say, “Okay, the Bible says you should tithe, so now in the Constitution we’re going to amend it to say everyone tithes.”

His point is that the law should reflect transcendent moral truth. This is called the natural law. You may not agree with it, but this is traditional conservatism. If Father Neuhaus said it -- and he certainly believes it -- and not a Baptist preacher from Arkansas, I very much doubt we'd have right-wing spluttering on the matter.

I also liked this exchange:

There’s something interesting going on now in the evangelical world – there’s a conversation going on about what the agenda ought to be that seems broader. There was a little bit of a sense that the religious conservative leadership, while emphasizing important things like abortion and family, had neglected issues like poverty and the environment. Do you think that’s true?

I’ve said that, that I’ve felt like as Christians and particularly even as Republicans, we needed to address issues that touched the broader perspective, and that included disease, hunger, poverty, homelessness, the environment. And it’s not a matter that we’re going to become left-wingers. I don’t think that at all. I think taking care of the earth is a matter of stewardship. It’s not about global warming, it’s about stewardship and responsibility. [Emphasis mine -- RD.] Things like hunger and homelessness. And it’s not about having a government program, it’s about simply reminding each of us as individual citizens that this is an area of our own responsibility. At my own church… our church is very, very engaged in everything from dealing with hunger, poverty, and we reach out to a lot of people. We don’t ask the government to do it. We do it ourselves as a church. It’s part of our ministry. The only reason the government would get involved would be that the other social institutions – primarily the family the church the neighborhood – failed. If the family or church does its own work and does it well, then there’s no reason for government to ever get into these things at all. The ideal is that they wouldn’t, that they’ll do a lousy job of it generally.

"It's about stewardship and responsibility." That's Traditional Conservatism 101. That's what I mean by crunchy conservatism. That's the antithesis of this idea put forth by Limbaugh the other day, that to be a conservative means to create conditions under which the maximum number of American can have all their material desires met, virtually on demand.

I strongly encourage you to read the entire interview. As a non-Evangelical whose moral and political understanding has been formed primarily by Catholicism, I am struck by how profoundly consonant Huckabee's views are with Catholic teaching. Any Catholic who thinks he's some sort of anti-Catholic fundamentalist should read this interview, and think again.

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Unsympathetic reader
January 17, 2008 9:58 PM

Jillian writes: "Maybe what disturbs people is just how casually Huckabee talks about making amendments to the Constitution."

Particularly considering the areas in question are clearly changing in the opposite direction. Ideally, amendments to the Constitution should not be made in haste or as part of a desperate holding strategy.

BTW - My parent's marriage was illegal in many states at the time. One of my mother's friends confided that she was probably going to Hell for mixing races. That wasn't terribly long ago. And you know, once you let that mixed-race thing out the bag, society is on the slippery slope to total decay. Case in point: once they starting repealing anti-race mixing laws, divorce has skyrocketed.

Or maybe fluoridation is the real culprit...

Violachick
January 17, 2008 10:02 PM

I usually like stopping by CC, even though I disagree many of the posts. But this last thread is getting pretty unkind.

For me, I'm pro-gay marriage. I really try to treat all people with dignity and respect. And that's still true even if their beliefs are in opposition to mine.

Lots of times I fail and mess up. But I know this: being snarky doesn't elevate any of us.

This board is filled with really cool and brilliant people. Can we please let the bugles sound truce?

Thanks for considering,
Violachick

Franklin Evans
January 17, 2008 10:35 PM

I don't pity anyone here, least of all Erin. The exchange between Erin and Susan may not have started out as ad hominem, but it certainly arrived there in short order.

Erin, your mode was sarcastic at least, and explicitly unkind. If you would prefer to not be shoved into the same boat as a bigot, you might have considered an alternate wording to the ficus tree remark.

Susan, your response in kind places you in the same anger boat that you would put Erin into; from where I sit, neither of you would have a paddle.

Explicit mode: I watched two women I admire and respect bare their claws at each other, both completely turning away from the topic at hand. Chagrined is not quite enough to describe my feelings.

I now stand quietly, hands clasped behind my back. You both deserve to lay into me with a will. You'll get no complaint from me in return.

Erik
January 17, 2008 10:43 PM

Violachick,
Sometimes the dogs 'round here jes' gotta have a good ol' tussle with the knotted rag afore they kin get back to playin' nice. ;)

This time, Erin appears to be the rag; but she's been one of the dogs before as well, and no doubt will again.

Rod Dreher
January 17, 2008 11:09 PM

Susan, you really crossed the line and behaved like a bully. I don't appreciate that, and it has nothing to do with the fact that Erin was the target. I'm going to try to close the comments on this thread. This is getting out of line.

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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