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Who's your Cronkite?

Monday January 14, 2008

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Caitlin Flanagan has an intriguing Atlantic Monthly essay (behind subscriber firewall, I fear) about how Katie Couric went from being a star on the Today show to being a turkey helming the CBS Evening News. In her piece, which is...
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Scott Walker
January 14, 2008 3:57 PM

There is no Cronkite. I'm old enough (54) to remember when most of the folks I knew stopped and sat down to watch Uncle Walter or, in our house, Huntley and Brinkley. Now, I check the evening news like you do, Rod, to get the Official Truth as promulgated by the dinosaurs who think that they still matter. For me, it's Real Clear Politics, Instapundit, you, Orthodox Chritian for Accountability, Touchstone's Mere Comments, The Anchoress and Pajamas Media. I read what y'all have to say and then follow the more interesting links. I think I'm much better informed than I used to be, and, consequently, struggle with a bear of a case of clinical depression :-)

Elvis Elvisberg
January 14, 2008 4:02 PM

Josh Marshall.

It's not clear to me if network news will still exist in 10 years.

jaybird
January 14, 2008 4:05 PM

Yeah, this is a huge deal - by way of example: My 63 year-old Father, the same man who threatened to throw me out of the house for getting a mohawk 20 years ago, now calls me on the weekends to tell me excitedly about who was just on the Henry Rollins Show on IFC. Strange times we live in.

dana
January 14, 2008 4:12 PM

Yes, blogs have taken over. I find that when a writer (Rod Dreher or Andrew Sullivan) has both a column and a blog, I read only the blog.

Joel
January 14, 2008 4:14 PM

There is no Conkite today. I get my news from dozens of sources, mostly online, ranging from liberal and conservative blogs to mainstream new sites (Fox, CNN, NYT). I don't consistently agree with any of them, nor do I consistently trust any of them the way people used to trust Cronkite.

Simon
January 14, 2008 4:36 PM

Joel's answer is spot on.

Sheilagh
January 14, 2008 4:48 PM

For MSM, I still try to catch The News Hour with Lehrer at least once a week or so. I like the summary and the in depth piece.

Science Fridays on NPR.

Nova.

Occasionally Brian Williams.

NECN (New England Cable News) for the weather and local reports.

I only get basic cable so the 24hr news stations are out.

But then it's mostly the blogs. No more newspapers. Except the Christian Science Monitor online.

No Cronkite. But there is a political reporter named Alison King on NECN who I actually trust. She's very insightful. Doesn't come across as a strong virulent Dem. which is highly unusual up here. She'd be the only one.

stephen
January 14, 2008 4:58 PM

Drudge. If he has the sirens up people in the MSM are checking it out.

Sheilagh
January 14, 2008 5:08 PM

Hey Rod, You missed most of America's New Cronkite . . .Ryan Seacrest.

He's back on the air tonight.

elizabeth
January 14, 2008 5:15 PM

John Stewart. The only "news" I can stomach.

Larry Parker
January 14, 2008 5:41 PM

E.J. Dionne and Gene Robinson -- two WaPo liberals (and I know you personally admire if rarely agree with Dionne, Rod) who most definitely have NOT received the talking points from the Dem campaigns that we liberals joke conservative talking heads have gotten from the White House.

On the conservative side -- Rod, you're always intriguing, but the one I most RESPECT (simply from long experience -- I've been reading him since I was a kid) is Michael Barone. Even if I'm slightly dismayed we've made opposite ideological evolutions during that time :-)

Richard
January 14, 2008 5:42 PM

I'm with Joel as it relates to news, and surf RealClearPolitics, plus the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Anchorage Daily News (I used to live in Alaska), National Review Online, The New Republic, American Scene, Christianity Today and this esteemed site.

I assemble a collage of perspectives, and the consequence is that I view current affairs as if through a mosaic.

The closest thing to a "journal of record" I count on is ESPN ;-)

Aaron Gigliotti
January 14, 2008 5:44 PM

A combination of Drudge and Instapundit. RCP is obviously very important. For meta-observation, I use CNN.com. They seem to nail The Top Story as well as anyone.

M_David
January 14, 2008 6:14 PM

Drudge.

Scott Lahti
January 14, 2008 6:25 PM

jaybird's vignette of his once-censorious father now watching ex-punk Henry Rollins with glee on cable, recalls other Byrds (lyrics via that prime Byrd-feeder Dylan, natch') forty years on -

"I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now." ["My Back Pages"]

So now me Pop, 68, takes as his audio caffeine weekday mornings the man
who was prime shockjock in my high-school daze c. 1979, Don Imus, who, after all, is less than a year his junior...with recent forays into Howard Stern and "Talk Sex With Sue Johanson"...while I'm listening to moonlit 1930s torch songs on XM with reverse-rebel abandon. Strange times, indeed.

This thread on old-media deliquescence recalls Rod's thread "And speaking of change" from an entire six days ago, which latter, in blog years anyway, makes any critique it contains seem like a Jurassic Carp by Crunchy-Contrast...

But back to TV "news". One signal reason why print and now web media will always blast broadcast news out of the water: built-in choice, item by item. Read. Skip. Skip. Skip. Read. Skip, &c.

With TV or radio, however, to get the one story I really care about, say a new scientific discovery or the death of a beloved musician, I have to sit through 20 minutes I'll never get back of The George and Dick and Hillary and Bill Show, because the newsies at Viacom, GE, Disney and NewsCorp (i.e., showbiz cloaking itself as heroic frontline tribune of Truth & Justice) decided what's good for me? Even when reading the best books, the freedom to ditch at will the longueurs is precious beyond reckoning.

And what's with this 20th-century talking-swollen-head celeb-anchor disease, with portentious martial-music lead-in themes? It would be like having, atop every story in the New York Times, an 8 1/2 X 11 head-shot of Rosenthal, Raines or Keller with a giant speech-balloon - "Turning now to Baghdad, Times reporter John Burns reports..." - with an "embedded" greeting-card soundchip blasting the 1812 Overture. No thanks. And with print/web, I have the freedom to not only "edit" my own paper, I can archive and pass to friends cost-free the keepers amid the instantly yellowed. This fetish for moving lips and dancing shadows has got to stop.

The cable "news" channels find more than ninety percent of their schedules devoted to (1) A roster of refried celebrified (though never *cerebrified*) "top(less) stories" on repeat for each wave of channel surfers; (2) Egotist shockjocks and corner-stool barroom brawlers racing for the least-common-denominator in both politics and culture (when I see an ad for an "LCD" TV, I assume its program range extends no further than The O'Biley Faxed Her and shiny-lipped anchorettes, i.e., All Boobs, all Th' Time); and (3) "Serious" squawking-head panel discussions trading in "expert" Beltway speculation too embarrassing to unearth a week later.

A closing snippet on useless news, gathered from that least useless of online treasure-houses, the archives of the great postwar humanist weekly MANAS (manasjournal.org):

"Oh for a Thoreauvian world - a world in which we do not waste each others' time with useless concerns! A world without newspapers, or very few of them, and those which exist devoted only to matters that matter. Must we wait for thousands of years before such utopian times can come about?"

[Quoting from The Unadjusted Man by Peter Viereck]: "Liberty
depends on a substratum of fixed archetypes, as opposed to the arbitrary shuffling about of laws and institutions...The contrast between institutions grown organically and those shuffled out of arbitrary rationalist liberalism was summed up by a British librarian on being asked for the French constitution: 'Sorry, sir, but we don't keep periodicals.'"

[resuming after Viereck, from MANAS] "The proper work of a review is to help readers to find their way through the wilderness of too many books, magazines, and newspapers. The reason for reading the Times along with the Eternities is to keep track of how far away we still are from the archetypes of meaning—known only in Eternity — and to locate the paths that may close somewhat the gap."

Insane Kitten
January 14, 2008 7:53 PM

It's a comination of Stewart/Colbert, Andrew Sullivan, and of course YOU, Roddy! Of course, chmapagne liberal that I am (hee hee) I check in with Salon and Huffington Post pretty regularly as well.

Zach
January 14, 2008 8:24 PM

I'm 22, and I get most of my news from Drudge. I watch The Situation Room on CNN, if only because there's nothing else, and Jack Cafferty is funny. Broadcast news is worthless. I also read the paper everyday at work on lunch, which is rare for someone my age. And I browse Fark.com, but that isn't really serious. Kinda like the Daily Show of the Internet, serious news presented as a joke. To get my in-depth analysis, of course, I come to Rod!

Kit Stolz
January 14, 2008 8:24 PM

Is Walter Cronkite really the right icon and/or analogy? Cronkite/CBS presented a selection of the news he and his network deemed important. I'm sure he would admit judgment went into that selection, and with that judgment some politics, but isn't that quite different from a spectrum of opinion from bloggers and columnists?

Is there no such thing as news anymore?

For me, news still matters. I still read look at papers of various sorts -- the Times, the Post, the Journal, plus various other outlets, scientific and cultural, as often as possible. I can't read every story, obviously, but I certainly don't depend on bloggers to bring me the important facts of the day.

Kirk
January 14, 2008 9:11 PM

Drudge (national news alerts), Tyler Morning Telegraph (online, my area newspaper), Dreher, Touchstone's Mere Comments, Colbert, Diane Sawyer & Crew on GMA (not as good since Charlie left), Dale Hansen (regional sports), and Paul Burka (when the Texas Legislature is in session).

Meta news comes from NPR: Morning Edition and All Things Considered; also Charlie Gibson on ABC's WNT.

DC Native
January 14, 2008 10:36 PM

Well, I must be very different from most of you: I read the print versions of the Washington Post and the New York Times every day. I don't watch television. The only Internet sites I read regularly for current affairs are the three Beliefnet politically oriented ones: Rod Dreher, David Kuo, and Sojourners.

On a larger point, I don't recall everyone in the 1960s and 1970s taking the CBS Evening News (or whichever program) as the gospel that Rod and others might think. Newspapers were important; most households took at least one. If you weren't a big TV watcher, you probably didn't take television news all that seriously either.

I'd think today's equivalents are the three late-night network shows and the political-satire shows several of you have mentioned.

watsy
January 14, 2008 11:19 PM

Again, the point is not that I agree with the figure all, or even most of the time; the point is I trust him or her to tell me what I should be thinking about.

How about you? Who's your Cronkite?

Definitely, my husband. If it was up to me, we'd have a nice garden, read some good books, read a little on the internet, spend too much time on b-net, do some crafts, get a little exercise, and forget about everything else.

Sigh.

You need a good news source if you're in the business of writing for a living like Rod. Other than that, reading and thinking about the news and politics and worrying about all of this stuff just becomes another hobby or distraction that keeps us away from doing things that matter or make a difference in life.

Bugg
January 15, 2008 9:22 AM

Increasingly, the last honest guy left is Pat Buchanan. Today's news, that the rest fot he political class won't tell you or face. But hey, you have hope, or some such nonsense, which as per the media is what matters. Hope you can beleive in doesn't pay your mortgage or creidt cards. But hope with $1.25 can get you a cup of coffee at Dunkin Donuts-

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59693

As per above, the evening news is an anachronism. But even as to the "Today" show, who has time at 8AM to sit and watch TV? If you have a job or kids or both, watching TV in the AM is a habit no one I know has.

MargaretE
January 15, 2008 9:33 AM

I second the vote for Pat Buchanan. And he didn't even come to mind 'til Bugg mentioned him. Brilliant choice!

Soop
January 15, 2008 9:38 AM

I agree that for hard news there is no Cronkite. There is no one stop shop that people run to as authority. Certainly not on TV. If it is a particularly sensational or hard to believe story that I run across on one site, I scan the others to see if they have picked it up. And then if they do pick it up, I start glancing at the blogs to see if the story is going to be ripped to shreds or if it will stand up.

But I still feel compelled to give a shout out to CBS Sunday Morning. I think it is what "news" should be. There is not a more pleasurable hour and a half on television. Secretly it is the reason I push my wife to go to church on Saturday evening. I know it is a television program, but for some strange reason I love it more in the spring and fall.

Gotta run. All the best.

Soop

Maclin Horton
January 15, 2008 10:51 AM

Scott Lahti's transposition of the TV news paradigm to print had me laughing out loud.

My wife & I went for many years with no cable, thus no CNN etc., and very little TV news at all, which gave us an odd perspective on the news--we never had much idea of the TV pseudo-events (so-and-so's gaffe, etc.) that drove so many things, didn't recognize parodies of politicos or catch-phrases, had little idea of the TV presence of major figures. Then we got cable and for a year or two switched between CNN and Fox at breakfast. It was fun for a while, but then one day we said to each other "I'm really sick of these people"--their ginned-up urgency, their saturation coverage of the trivial and superficial coverage of the serious, their endless teasing of some big story "coming up soon," their self-importance, and of course the damned commercials. Now we read the morning paper at breakfast. It's very pleasant. It's mostly local stuff. For non-local news we browse multiple sources on the net.

Younger people (younger than, I would guess, 40 or so--I'm pushing 60) may not realize the stranglehold that Cronkite and a handful of others had on the news for so long. It was a very tendentious, to say the least, view of the world, and it literally defined reality for millions of people, or rather that part of reality outside their local environment. Good riddance to them.

dan
January 15, 2008 1:31 PM

So Rod, who are your 9-10 daily blog check-ins?

Scott Lahti
January 15, 2008 2:11 PM

Reading from (Mac) Horton here a boo at cable-"news" vulgarians after my own scornful heart, I felt like extending my gloved hand from my side of the screen toward his, Robin to his Batman in good-game-we-sure-knocked-the-stuffing outta-the-bad-guys solidarity after their onomatopoeiac fisticuffed dispatch of the minions of the dark. Then I dug up Rod's old CC @ NRO blog-post on Mac, 3-23-06, and fortified my hail-fellow-well-met in his critique of hedonism, though faith yet eludes my own search, in stoic, (smallest-p) pagan Nockian resignation, for something more on the morrow than Gomorrah as we know it, given the way GOP "culture" and pop culture are chased tails to each other's snakes.

Just above Mac, Soop's on to truth in thumbing-up "Sunday Morning" on CBS, that throwback to a time in decades past when the networks at least made an effort to crack the shutters open a sliver toward the sunlit dawn of art and craft and beauty, in implicit submission to a hierarchical order. I'm sorry I've not watched it more, for it does seem like the Last of the Homed Beacons of grace among the Big-Three stooges of old-network broadcast "news".

Larry Parker
January 15, 2008 3:18 PM

My stepdad's "check-in" is Juliet Huddy of Fox News.

Though I don't think it's for her journalism abilities. "Check out" may be more like it ... ;-P

Cleveland
January 16, 2008 12:01 AM

Mine is William F. Buckley, Jr.

I never liked Cronkite, especially after Tet, when he lied just like the rest of them--for political reasons. Dan Rather then perfected the process of the MSM acting as a political fifth column.

Palo Alto
January 16, 2008 6:58 PM

I'm 25, and I'm a big fan of the Newshour with Jim Lehrer on PBS. I'm not always home for an "appointment" with it, but online streaming is making this irrelevant. There is a place for an intelligent evening newscast, not so much for reading of the headlines anymore, but for interviewers and panels that go beyond the 15-second soundbytes that characterize a "discussion" on Fox and CNN. I find watching both of these latter two to be equivalent to reading a tabloid, like those that are mainstream in London, as opposed to newspaper that attempts to appeal to a little more than one's most base appetites.

Mason
May 8, 2009 6:00 AM

Andrew Sullivan is one.
Dan Froomkin's blog on WashPost, and Eugene Robinson in print. At the NYTimes David Brooks and Frank Rich are my go-to columnists.

Terry Gross on NPR, and Bill Moyers on PBS, are two people who produce "the story behind the story" most consistently.

And last but certainly not least, Glenn Greenwald has reached demi-god status in my eyes. So brilliant, so scathing, so compulsively readable.

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