Kudos to my colleagues at the Dallas Morning News, who have a front-page story out today on the background to the murders in Dallas of Muslim teenagers Amina and Sarah Said by their father, an Egyptian immigrant. Yaser Abdel Said is still wanted by police, and he's innocent until proven guilty. But all signs indicate that yes, it was an honor killing:
Almost immediately, police issued an arrest warrant for the girls' father, 50-year-old Yaser Said, an Egyptian-born cab driver who family members said was given to fits of violence, threats and gun-waving rants about how Western culture was corrupting the chastity of his daughters.
But it was more complicated than that. Said had been investigated before on accusations that he sexually abused his girls. When the kids were 8 and 9, they told police their father molested them. Their mother signed an affidavit attesting to the truth of the accusations. But they later recanted.
The story goes on to frame honor killing like this:
Mr. Said often espoused his version of traditional Middle Eastern values, prompting speculation the murders were "honor killings," an ancient Arab tribal custom in which the man of the family kills women he believes have shamed the family. The practice is now widely repudiated.
That's not true, that it's "now widely repudiated." As the United Nations reported last year about how difficult it is to fight the practice in Jordan (one of the more liberalized Arab countries):
“There is no political will to fight so-called honour crimes. The tribal mentality is the main driving force that makes this phenomenon spin out of control,” said Reem Abu Hassan, a leading women’s rights activist in the kingdom.
Though the girls' great aunt told the News a couple of days ago that it was, in fact, an "honor killing," that's disputed now by their mother and brother:
In a brief phone call in which she declined to comment further, his wife, Patricia, angrily rejected the notion that Mr. Said's Muslim religion or culture had anything to do with the murders.Her son, Islam, 19, agreed.
"Why is it every time an Arab father kills a daughter, it's an honor killing?" Islam said. "It didn't have anything to do with that." He declined to answer other questions.
Reza Aslan made the same point yesterday in our Bloggingheads.tv segment, which I think will be up later today. He was pretty upset with me for even suggesting that this might have been an honor killing, saying that I only use that term as a way of drawing attention to the alleged killer's Muslim religion. My contention, though, is that it's vital to understand the cultural context in which a murder took place. Obviously men who are not Muslim or Arab kill their daughters. But however much it embarrasses contemporary Muslims, traditional Arab Muslim culture (and not only Arab Muslim culture) has certain views of women, of honor, of sexuality and of violence that, taken together, weakens or removes the taboo we in the West observe against violence against women. Understand what I'm saying: violence, even deadly violence, against women is (sadly, outrageously) a universal phenomenon. But it's far more acceptable in traditional Arab Muslim culture.
Yaser Said doesn't seem to have been faithful to his mosque or his prayers. And yet, according to the girls' aunt:
"I remember [Sarah] telling me that her dad told her he would take her back to Egypt and have her killed," she said. "He said it's OK to do that over there if you dishonor your family."
The mother, Patricia Said, will carry a heavy burden of guilt the rest of her life, and should. She knew what kind of a brute her husband was over the abuse he heaped on his girls. In late December, she took the girls and ran away to get away from him, because he'd started making death threats against them. Rented an apartment in another state and everything. But, according to the story, she went back to him because she felt guilty over leaving her monster husband. And now her daughters are dead.

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Off thread, but important (in my estimation).
An expert on islamic law, Stephen Coughlin, has written the following strategy document relating to the 'Enemy Threat Doctrine' for the DoD. So far I've only perused it, but the part that I've read is very, very good - page ranges 250-260 were especially interesting. (There was also an in depth discussion of a 1915 fatwa that preceeded the Armenian genocide in Turkey of which I knew virtually nothing.) Although he's apparently the only expert on Islamic law employed at DoD, the Deptartment has refused to renew his contract - ostensibly for budgetary reasons, but there's been some open speculation that the termination had something to do with an islamic outreach aide named Hasham Islam who was urging Coughlin to 'soften his message.'
http://www.strategycenter.net/docLib/20080107_Coughlin_ExtremistJihad.pdf
Look at all the murders of women and children over the past few weeks. Women and children are the victims of religions that make them second class citizens. Honor killings occur in Christian culture also. Greece has had several.
Why is this fat ignorant mother covering up for her husband that murdered her children. Not in a million years did she have to live with this monster, she is only 35 yrs.old, the girls were practically grown, personally I feel she and the brother both are guilty, they just didn't pull the trigger, he promised he would kill them, the mother brought them home so he could, the brother lied to Amina to come home, she did, he didn't protect her. If they would interigate this mother and brother, I bet they would find these girls were still being molested by that monster, maybe even the brother.
They say they are in hiding "THATS A LIE", they are staying with the murderer family. If she had cared for her girls she could have moved and received police protection. I BET SHE IS PLANNING ON LOTS OF DONATIONS...IF ANYONE WANTS TO DO ANYTHING, LET IT BE SOMETHING IN THE MEMORY OF THESE TWO LOVELY GIRLS "WHO WISHED TO BE AMERICANS", but was held back by their ignorant mother and abusive father
it is not islamic honour.but islam can not allow to kill man or weman.for this kind of sin.
I am from Greece and Eastern Greek Orthodox Christian. I lost 2 female relatives to honor killings.
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