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Bill Buckley is dead. A world ends.

Wednesday February 27, 2008

Categories: Conservatism
William F. Buckley has died. What a tremendous loss this is to American conservatism, and to American politics. The man was a giant, an absolute giant. The past 50 years in US political life would have been inconceivable without him....
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John E.
February 27, 2008 12:09 PM

I will miss his columns.

jaybird
February 27, 2008 12:18 PM

Bummer. I always thought it was kind of sad that he lived to see the descent of his magazine into another belligerent mouthpiece of the modern Republican Party. Seriously: K. Lo? Jonah Goldberg? Mark Levine? These are the intellectual beacons of Conservatism now?

Hunk Hondo
February 27, 2008 12:28 PM

Jaybird, there's a time and place for everything and the time for that isn't now. As bitter as I have been towards those people, at this moment I can regard them only as fellow humans who have lost a friend, and whose hearts ache for that loss. As mine does.

jaybird
February 27, 2008 12:34 PM

Fair enough. I'll understand if Rod wants to delete that post.

Rob G
February 27, 2008 12:37 PM

As we Orthodox say, "Memory Eternal!"

He will be missed.

Daniel
February 27, 2008 12:38 PM

I remember as a kid watching Firing Line and marveling at the civility and good humor Buckley always treated those he disagreed with. Firing Line was always my idea of how intelligent adults should discuss issues. Although I agreed with him mightily, he's impact on America's intellectual community and political discourse was profound.

Rod Dreher
February 27, 2008 12:40 PM

No, even though I share Hunk Hondo's sentiments, I'll leave it. Part of the discussion about Buckley will center on his legacy, and his heirs. I've got to be prepared to see my friends criticized -- though I do hope that we can keep that kind of sniping to a minimum today out of respect for Bill.

Maybe I'll start another thread about his legacy. Buckley watchers will note that he was harshly critical of Bush the Younger and the Iraq War in his final years.

Grumpy Old Man
February 27, 2008 12:40 PM

Lord have mercy.

Memory eternal.

Lisa
February 27, 2008 12:41 PM

Many years ago I saw a Firing Line where WFB was interviewing and debating Daniel Patrick Moynihan. It's hard to imagine two more diametrically opposed political philosophies, but I wish young people today could see that show. Both men were kind, genial, and courteous without sacrificing a bit of their intellectual or political passion. It was truly a lovely thing to watch.

fbc
February 27, 2008 12:43 PM

Like many here, I cut my political teeth on Bill Buckley and the National Review. So much so that I have often said that politics was my first religion.

Later in life, I came to be converted to Catholicism (Buckley's own religion, for those not in the know) and in some respects, left behind the Republican Party and, to a lesser extent, National Review and Buckley.

But despite my many and sometimes acrid disputes with the Republican Party, I have never been estranged from its grand gentleman, Bill Buckley. He was indeed a giant and though I never met him, he was a seminal influence on my life.

Mary Most Holy, pray for thy son WFB. God bless Bill Buckley. Requiescat in pacem.

Russell Arben Fox
February 27, 2008 12:46 PM

I was never a Bill Buckley person; I started my political journey (though I didn't recognize it as such at the time) away from the lock-step Republicanism of my parents in the early 80s, and my thinker of choice was George Will. I read everything I could get my hands on by the guy. I received as a gift one of Buckley's essay collections--Right Reason, if I recall correctly. I found it light, filled with deft, insouciant swings between harsh invective and complete flights of fancy: none of the moral rigor and demanding prose I found in Will's essays. "Ah, this man lives for boating jaunts and ski trips," I thought, and I couldn't take him much seriously after that.

It was only years later, and long after I realized that I'd only stayed "conservative" in my own peculiar, heavily philosophical way, that I came to appreciate Buckley. Will, in the meantime, had let his partisan mentality become ever more sharp and clear, obscuring many if not all of his moral and theoretical chops; but Buckley, despite having done as much as any one American probably ever has to shape actual electoral politics in this country, never wrote or even seemed to think like a party man. He was a Tocqueville, an aristocrat born into the wrong age, a man with great passions who apparently never lost the ability to laugh at his passions. Truly, someone I wish I could have met and known. RIP, Bill.

Hunk Hondo
February 27, 2008 12:55 PM

Whether you consider American conservatism a good thing or a bad one, you have to recognize one thing: without this man, it wouldn't exist in any form we would recognize. How, over a period of decades, could an such an agglomeration of wildly disparate, jarring, logically incompatible and often bitterly opposed people and ideas be kept more or less together in public discourse? When such a thing happens in history, it often has one overwhelming explanation--the power of an incandescent, utterly dominating personality. There has never been a better example of this than Buckley. He found conservatism an array of eccentrics on the fringes of society. He leaves it an integral and formidable component of the intellectual life of his country. His undeniable intellectual powers--and,even more, his wit and personal charm, by which millions of opponents were reluctantly delighted--were the sine qua non of that development. He--not Goldwater, not Reagan--was the founder of the feast. For without him, there would have been no Goldwater, no Reagan, no nothing. Eternal rest grant unto him, O Lord, and may the Perpetual Light shine upon him.

Erin Manning
February 27, 2008 1:08 PM

Eternal rest grant unto him O Lord,
And let perpetual Light shine upon him.
May his soul
And the souls of all the faithful departed
Through the mercy of God
Rest in peace.
Amen.

I feel now about conservatism in general the way I've been feeling about the Republican party; we're between generations. The old guard has remained with us longer than we might have expected, which was a blessing, but now it's hard to see who will step forward to be the new voices of conservatism (particularly after this current primary season).

thomas tucker
February 27, 2008 1:13 PM

Well put, Erin. I agree- it seems like we are waiting for the new voices of conservatism to arise.
How I dearly loved Firing Line, and the civil exchange of ideas. It was so different from today's coarsenss, in everything from the behavior of the guests to the theme music.

Charles Cosimano
February 27, 2008 1:16 PM

I met Bill Buckley when I was in college experiencing one of the very few moments of hero-worship in my life. He was a man of rare charm and wit and my trading jokes with him is something that has always stuck firmly in my memory even as the rest of those happy years recede with the decades.

If the Uncreated has a heaven, I hope that he modifies his policy to let one Catholic in. Bill deserves it.

Joseph
February 27, 2008 1:17 PM

Rod,

I hope this doesn't sound impossibly pedantic, but I believe what you want is requiescat in pace, not pacem. You aren't the only one I've seen doing this recently. Perhaps it's a contamination with dona nobis pacem or some such. As you say, though, may he rest in peace, in any case.

reddopto
February 27, 2008 1:27 PM

I have two fond remembrances from Mr. Buckley's "Firing Line" TV show. One was a debate Buckley had with Ron Dellums in a classic left-right pummeling. Mr. Dellems was getting in some strong shots, when Bill pulled out his secret weapon and used a word Dellums had never heard before. Dellums didn't want to ask Buckley what the word meant, so the debate went to Buckley.

Another memory was of a show done in Britain in the late seventies. One anti-Irish British student railed against the Gallics. He said,"You know, Mr. Buckley those Irish have been know to vote the dead." Mr. Buckley retorted, "That's been known to happen in parts of America too."
Without missing a beat the student fired back, "That's because they have so damn many Irish in America!"

Jeremiah
February 27, 2008 1:31 PM

Not to be insensitive (and I'm no liberal), but Buckley was hardly the hero he's being made out to be here. He was a xenophobic fascist.

He once told Gore Vidal, "Now listen, you queer, stop calling me a crypto-Nazi or I will sock you in your goddamn face, and you will stay plastered.”

National Review will sing his praises, but they totally ignored Dorothy Day, a true hero, when she died.

As Bill Kauffman writes, "Despite its pro-Catholic tendency, and despite its commendable custom of commemorating the passing of worthy people even when some of these did not belong to the conservatives, National Review paid neither respect nor attention to the passing of Dorothy Day, while around the same time it published a respectful R.I.P. column in honor of Oswald Mosley, the onetime leader of the British Fascist Party."

Read more about it here: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0GER/is_2000_Summer/ai_63500751

Rod Dreher
February 27, 2008 1:33 PM

Not impossibly pedantic. Thanks for the correction, Joseph, which I've just made in the original.

Reaganite in NYC
February 27, 2008 1:36 PM

I was in junior high school when I stumbled on to Bill Buckley one Saturday morning while channel surfing. He was hosting "Firing Line" on the local public television station in my home state. He made nerdiness seem cool. Being a nerd mysef and an instinctive contrarian at that impressionable age, Bill Buckley became my intelletual mentor and his "little magazine" my political Bible.

Greater than the power of his own writings was his influence as an organizer of other conservative intellectuals. "National Review" was a mail-order version of a traditional European salon. "Firing Line" brought that salon into living rooms every week. The most influential book he wrote (aside from "God and Man at Yale") was an anthology he edited in the 1970s entitled "American Conservative Thought in the Twentieth Century" and subtitled "Did You Ever See A Dream Walking?" (which also doubled as the title of his introductory essay). That volume introduced a host of conservative writers (some already dead by then) and illuminated the various strains in American conservatism that continue to be debated today and which are often a fruitful focus of this blog (traditional vs libertarian; Burkean/organic conservativism vs free-market economics; internationalism vs. "America First").

Bill Buckley was a great gift to this country!! I will miss him :-(

Roland de Chanson
February 27, 2008 1:45 PM

In God and Man at Yale, Bill Buckley presciently sounded the alarm of the deleterious effect of liberalism, materialism and relativism on the intellectual and moral fibre of the nation. Those cancers have since metastacised into what Pope Benedict has called the dictatorship of relativism. Buckley recognised the intellectual and moral vacuity of the Left in his secular education at Yale. The tragedy is that today's youth don't recognise that same pernicious party-line at so-called "Catholic" universities, as Fulton J. Sheen also warned early on.

He was the quintessence of urbanity, the paragon of a catholic and Catholic intellectual, un esprit universel, the lodestar of American conservatism in the second half of the twentieth century. We shall not soon see his like again.

Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, dona ei requiem sempiternam.

Hunk Hondo
February 27, 2008 1:49 PM

I'm glad you corrected the Latin, Rod. Otherwise it wouldn't have surprised me if you'd gotten an e-mail from the Beyond gently admonishing you about it.(BTW, reddopto, he might have told you that the Irish are Gaelic, not Gallic.)

fbc
February 27, 2008 1:54 PM

I'm glad you corrected the Latin, Rod. Otherwise it wouldn't have surprised me if you'd gotten an e-mail from the Beyond gently admonishing you about it.

Hah! Perfect. Allow me to add my own "mea maxima culpa", and thanks as well.

Richard
February 27, 2008 2:03 PM

My parents were charter NR subscribers, so from my early childhood, I learned that there was this man “Buckley” who was a source of wisdom, insight, and wit. He offered his country his love and his ardent effort, he offered his colleagues in the conservative movement vision and encouragement, he treated his adversaries with respect, he provided his friends loyalty and great company and conversation. To all whom he encountered – as is so evident from the tributes of so many who knew him at NR – including those of us who “knew” him only through his writings, through Firing Line, or through (in my case) one on-campus talk, he offered the example of a life lived fully, and with grace.


He is with his Lord, and with his love, and – if God is as joyous as I believe him to be – close to some good sailing as well. He left all who knew him enriched, and he left his nation a decidedly better place.

Requiescat in pace, indeed.

Richard

Vmonk
February 27, 2008 2:04 PM

I am sad. He was one of my first experiences of what being a good Conservative Christian can be. Someone who is passionate about what he thinks, but is respectful to those he disagrees with. He cannot be replaced. Unfortunately and thankfully.

Baton Rouge Reader
February 27, 2008 2:23 PM

As a high school student in the early to mid 1980s, I became a Firing Line fanatic, read as many of his books as I could, and even penned an essay about WFB for a college scholarship competition - and was awarded the scholarship!

Magnanimous, erudite, endearingly prickly - he will be missed.

Memory Eternal!

Vmonk
February 27, 2008 2:35 PM

Search google video and watch the hour long Charlie Rose montage of interviews with William F. Buckley and especially the last part on life and death. It was done in 2006.

Insane Kitten
February 27, 2008 2:44 PM

I am sad. He was one of my first experiences of what being a good Conservative Christian can be. Someone who is passionate about what he thinks, but is respectful to those he disagrees with.

If only more followed this example. Having said that, godspeed, sir.

Anonymous
February 27, 2008 2:55 PM

He did call Gore Vidal a "queer" on network television. Back when that was still considered a vile thing to say about someone. So I don't really think that he was all that gracious to people. I always thought he was one superior son-of-_____, but, hey, what do I know? Of course my mother was a Buckley (Oklahoma) and she despised the man. She was a Roosevelt democrat who lived in poverty in the twenties and thirties. He was a well spoken man who could write a sentence. Of course he spawned GWB and the current crop of Rusty Limbaughs and Glenn Becks who wouldn't know the etymology of the term conservative is it came up and bit them on their butts. But, so goes the neighborhood, eh?

Marty
February 27, 2008 3:43 PM

I used to just love watching WFB on Firing Line. I enjoyed his sparkling repartee and rapier wit and I kept thinking that this show would be the one in which he would part his hair with his tongue!!!

My sister, who is more liberal than me, just loved his sailing books. She got me Nearer My God for Christmas one year.

So many conservatives nowadays seem so angry. Like Reagan, Buckley never seemed angry. He always seemed to be enjoying some sort of private joke. I thought it was interesting how one of his good friends was the almost stereotypically liberal J.K. Galbraith.

I am glad he is with Pat now but I am sure it's hard for their son Chris.

Eternal rest grant him O Lord, and let light perpetual shine up him.

SiliconValleySteve
February 27, 2008 7:23 PM

While liberals tend to view history as being made by classes, castes and processes, conservatives like Bill Buckley tend to believe history is made by men.

His life stands as evidence that men make history.

Raised left-liberal (new deal parents and all that) I had no use for Bill Buckley when I was younger. Then at about 20, I was staying in a house where a weathered copy of "Man and God at Yale" was sitting in an out-of-the-way bookshelf in the room I was sleeping in. It tempted me as a pornographic magazine might tempt a staunch moralist. Finally, privately and hidden, I read it and he had me. It was many years before my conversion to conservatism was complete but I can reasonably state that it began that night.

So long Bill, you will be missed.

danielle
February 27, 2008 8:08 PM

Heard him speak; both of epic proportions and down to earth at the same time (how is that possible?) My heart is sad to know he's passed. May he rest in peace.

Steve Bodio
February 27, 2008 8:10 PM

He was, as he said of others, a bird of paradise.

Re his insulting Vidal-- Vidal had just called him a Nazi. I think a bit of overreaction was forgivable.

sj
February 27, 2008 11:23 PM

Yeah, Vidal had just called him a Nazi and it was perhaps one of the most stressful nights in the most stressful year in American politics and American civility was pushed to the breaking point.

I was 12 years old that year, with a budding interest in politics. Like my parents, my sympathies were, and are still not where Buckley's were. We were liberal Gene McCarthy supporters. But Buckley was the star of ABC's limited convention coverage, which I think started at 9:30 or 10:00 whereas the other two wealthier networks, in those days were doing near gavel to gavel coverage. We would turn to ABC as soon as their broadcast started. He was a charismatic presence to a 12 year old political junkie. I got my first library fine that fall for not returning a National Review I had checked out on time. He never really converted me though.

cricket
February 29, 2008 5:04 PM

Of course WFB wasn't a nazi, but Vidal really was a "fag" (N.B. the f-word is Buckley's own in recounting the incident years later, a word that has the resonance today that "queer" had at the time). God bless 'em both. No harm no foul, I say.

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