Farrakhan hearts Obama

The only people who pay a moment of attention to Farrakhan are people who would never vote for Obama to begin with. He has no constituency, as opposed to the Dobson's and Robertson's of the world who do have a significant constituency.

Rod,

If your friend Spengler's position has any validity, Sen Obama and Louis Farrakhan are drinking from the same well.

Since you like linking to Spengler so much, what say you about his current column. Pretty strong stuff indeed.

Isn't it valid for people to take Farrakan's support into account? Why does that require that we be stereotypes? Farrakhan has certain well-known political beliefs; if he thinks Obama is like-minded, there's nothing wrong with taking that into consideration.

Farrakhan...right. Keep reading those tea leaves you hear,but it's still no soup for you. Every few days we are "threatened" with the almighty GOP turnout. Well, lemme make this clear: after the experience we've had with Bonehead the Younger, nothing short of Armageddon , will stop a Democratic victory in November. So, I say release the hordes!

Yeah, but Daniel, the problem is that this is not a fundamentally liberal country, even if the unholy trinity you name is as evil as Farrakhan. So it doesn't work one way, but it does work the other way.

The problem is assuming that what Farakhan is, Obama is. Is it not enough to consider Obama's own words and own character.

Until you can come up with clue #1 that Obama himself hates Jews or hates whites then any inference that he does by association is slanderous. I'm sure it wont take much searching at all to find Obama denouncing Farakhan's brand of anti-semitism and racism.

Take him to task of liberal fiscal and social policy if you want, but don't make sh*t up. The turban, the middle name, now this... its getting pathetic.

Well who do you expect him to endorse? John McCain?

Like I said before. Tactically Obama is winning the nomination but he is going to get demolished by the Republicans. This is just another nail in the electoral coffin.

ZOMG! Farrakhan endorsed the black candidate! This came out of nowhere! It changes everything!

Seriously, Rod, while I've greatly enjoyed your blog in the past, you need to step back, detach, and reframe. Your last few posts have shown you have some serious racial and related issues to work through.

So again, if you have the audacity to hopefully note that Obama willingly socializes with such sterling humans as the hateful seperatist Farakhan, mad bomber Bill Ayers and and his wife, radical bank robber Bernandette Dorn, or that his wife has a huge resentment-laden chip on her shoulder, or that he's indifferent to the patriotism we expect in our leaders, that's "some serious racial and related issues to work through".

Got it! Bad whitey!

Again, point out the comparable bad guys with whom Mccain socializes.C'mon-lets' hear it. As Ted Knight said in "Caddyshack", "Well, we're waiting!".

If Obama endorses Farrakhan, that's an issue, and if he has done so in the past, it needs to be pointed out. Farrakhan getting excited about the viable black candidate in the race is a total non-issue. Getting excited about that and thinking that it wraps up everything for McCain ("the gift that keeps on giving") shows serious racial issues, as does trying to dig up dirt from the candidate's wife's undergraduate writings. (BTW, how many of you have done academic writing in the humanities lately? A liberal sprinkling of liberation buzzwords is the default for everything anymore, even if the overall theme is basically conservative.) Do you all really want to see a bunch of "Farrakhan likes Obama! Farrakhan likes Obama! Whitey better vote for me!" McCain commercials in the fall?

As long as the white conservative movement continues to push push push at brown people--you need to see everything from our perspective, which is the default American standard, or at least be compatible with it, and be sure that you are grateful enough--it will continue to fail to attract said brown people and thus doom itself demographically.

Sean, if Obama's pastor, the Rev. Wright, weren't so very close to and approving of Farrakhan, I wouldn't give this a second thought. And you know me, I'm not going to vote for Obama, because he's far too liberal for me, even though I find him personally appealing. And I'm not going to vote for McCain either, mostly because I strongly disagree with him on the war. I do think, though, that Obama is going to have some big problems this fall with the Wright thing, and by extension, with Farrakhan. I'm not sure how he should handle it, but it's going to be an issue, and it's not going to go away by telling white people they have no right to be concerned about it, on pain of being called racist.

And as I said earlier, Michelle Obama's senior paper at Princeton is only meaningful insofar as it has something to do with her present-day thoughts. Perhaps there's a good explanation for her views. She's going to have to share it at some point. You can't make people's legitimate concerns about what she and he really believe go away by accusing them of being racist for wondering.

And we're not giving the Clitons a pass for freeing the FALN terrorists, or Frank Rich or the votes for pardons New Town Square Hasids

Typo of the year. Priceless. I'm trying to envision an alternative world where Frank Rich needs a presidential pardon...but I don't think it exists this side of heaven.

Bugg
Is there anyone who has endorsed Mccain who was complicit in the murder of a police officer as Farakhan was in the murder of NYPD Patrolman Philip Cardillo in 1972 at his Harlem mosque? Name that person. My first post was refused, but check in Amzaon unde the name of author Randy Jurgensen and his book about it, "Circle of Six".

You really don't want to go down that road.

There are leaders of Christian Identity who do, indeed, almost always endorse the Republican candidate, although I haven't heard anything about McCain personally, and who can be linked with Eric Robert Rudolph.

Farrakhan is a racist idiot. Because he's a racist, he'll support anyone with dark skin. It doesn't say anything about that person.

No, that's an endorsement you don't want from Louis Farrakhan. But making a big deal of it in terms of it somehow affecting Obama's policies or actions if elected ... PUH-LEEZE.

And Rod, I might actually believe you have genuine concern and questions about Michelle Obama's Princeton thesis, rather than malice, if you would spend even 1/100th of the ink on the fact that Hillary Clinton's Wellesley thesis was thrown in the college safe under lock and key while SHE was First Lady.

Hmmm.

Lest we forget, in 2008, Michelle Obama is the "candidate" for First Lady and Hillary Clinton is now the candidate FOR THE PRESIDENCY ITSELF.

PS -- Bugg, a bit of a stretch to say that Rev. Wright is a "confirmed bad person," don't you think? There are lots of good people who have goofy theologies.

I'm once again having my nose rubbed in the utter failure of the Great Experiment's attempt to make a change in the human need to fear "other".

We see vividly why "innocent until proven guilty" and "due process" are necessary in our legal structure, because guilt by association and the lynch-mob mentality remains alive and well.

Hey, Bugg! Does David Duke being a registered and elected Republican make all Louisana Republicans racists? If not, why not?

People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true.

-- Terry Goodkind, Wizard's First Rule

And Bugg, before you decide that I'm calling you stupid, consider what criteria the vast majority of our fellow citizens use to make electoral decisions... yup, I'm taking about image and superficial attributes. Oppose Obama in the issues, oppose him on what he has expressed or revealed about his character, and I will listen (read) respectfully. In the meantime, do me (and yourself!) a favor and maintain a rational view of the facts, and refrain from taking as facts things that are clearly innuendo, rumor and speculation.

And no, I do not think you are stupid.

Bugg
That dog will not hunt. Rev. Wright has honored and feted Farakahan.

And Obama has already stated disagreement with Rev. Wright's support of Farrakhan. In fact, we already had this stupid discussion.

Obama's pastor is right at the fringe of this stupidity, and that's it. Wright doesn't preach his thoughts about that in the pulpit, and being a member of a church does not mean that you agree with everything the pastor thinks.

Can you show me where anyone associated with Mccain or his campaign have spoken well of or feted Eric Rudolph is such a manner?

Anyone associated with McCain? Apparently, 'associated' means 'leader of a group he attends'. That's a pretty big group of people to sort through.

I don't see any immediate support for Rudolph, but there's Ann "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building." Coulter who was invited to speak at CPAC, which McCain then proceeded to speak at and court for support. (Yes, CPAC kicked her out this year, when McCain showed up, but it wasn't due to those comments, which had show up before.)

And since we're having so much fun misparsing Michelle Obama's comments, let's think about Coulter's 'my only regret' for a second.

And CPAC is a political organization, not a random organization preached to by someone with stupid political views who, as far as we know, doesn't preach those views in the pulpit.

And for the most part, even the most ardent prolifers have condemned Rudolph's murderous rampage. Or show us where where Mccain socialized with the likes of criminals Ayers and Dorn?

Well, I'd point to Henry Kissinger, but I suspect you won't accept that.

Neither Ayers or Dorn have anything to do with Obama. There's no evidence they're ever interacted besides being introduced at a party.

Guilt by association. Got it.

When CPAC tries to blow up the Capitol, rob a bank, or conpire to kill a cop, get back to us.As per this gibberish, being conservative is on par with being a criminal, even worse.