I received the following e-mail this morning from a semi-regular poster, whom I'll identify if she gives me permission. I wanted to post it because I appreciate the wisdom here, and have learned from it (and yes, I must thank Daniel to for making what I now concede -- after a talk with my wife -- was a good and necessary point). Let me say I endorse this view wholeheartedly, and understand now the mistake I made in my initial approach. Thanks for helping me (and, I hope, each other) learn, people:
I am unable to post on your beliefnet blog anymore (my posts don't take for some reason) but I still do read and enjoy it regularly. I think you made some good points in your entry about the NY Times wedding dress piece.I did, however, want to comment on how you said you would tell your daughter, if she were dressed suggestively, "you aren't going out looking like a slut."
To which Daniel replied:
Which she will hear as, "You are a slut." The moment a girl starts developing, she starts hearing comments about being a "slut" by the boys and girls around her. Being called a "slut" is one of the worst things for a teen girl to hear and her dad saying, "You aren't going out looking like a slut" will be heard in an entirely different way than your Southern upbringing intended it.I just wanted to agree with Daniel. It's horrible to hear such a thing from your father, even if it's meant to be helpful advice. The utmost tact is called for in such situations, which admittedly can be hard to muster up when your child is being so blatantly inappropriate.
When I was 16, I tried to leave the house one afternoon wearing blue eyeliner (this was the '80s). It wasn't my habit to wear makeup, and I probably didn't do a very good of putting it on. My mother herself only wore lipstick on occasion, and I came from a family where loud clothing and makeup were frowned upon. I'm sure my face didn't look great leaving the house. . . anyhow, my dad took one look at me and told me to wash it off, adding, "You look like a 'show girl.' " That was his very proper way of saying I looked like a loose woman, a stripper, a slut, hooker. I should also add that I was wearing baggy-ish clothes at the time, a blazer over a pair of jeans and sweater.
Well, the effect his words had on me was devastating. I felt so angry and ashamed.
How much better it would have been if he'd sat me down and said "Sweetie, I know you don't want to hear this, but you need to know the impression you make with your appearance on boys and men who might not have your best interests at heart." He could have told me how people make judgements based on appearances, and how I could get potentially have gotten myself into bad situations through my naivete. Instead, what I heard him say, as Daniel said in his post, was "You look like a slut." It drove a wedge between us that lasted for some time. In fact, I still have my journal from that summer, in which I wrote, filled with tears, "Daddy said I look like a hooker."
All this to say, that you sound like a great father, and when your daughters do get to that age when you have to talk about such things with them, make sure they can hear the love in your voice as you try and teach them. Choose your words carefully. The confused and conflicting feelings that I had about my developing body back then I'm sure are only magnified for today's girls, who are growing up in such a hyper-sexualized environment. It can be an emotion-filled topic.

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My long-winded and musclebound John L. Sullivan now recognizes in One-Punch mm the Gentleman Jim Corbett of a new generation of begloved punfighting less-is-more polish:
"A NEW BREED of punfighter was born when mm won the Crunchy-Con-Commenter title from Scott Lahti in 2008. mm was an educated man who practiced the science of punning. He broke the mold of the stereotypical brawling pungilist...He was raised in a middle class home, attended college and...learned his wordplay not on the streets but in punning clubs...Because of his handsome appearance and classy commenting style, he earned such nicknames as Handsome mm, Pompadour mm and finally, Gentleman mm.
"The much anticipated Lahti-mm bout took place on February 23, 2008 in New Orleans (!; after Brother "Kid Creole" Dreher - Ed.). It was the first Crunchy-Commenter bout in which the participants wore gloves when typing. mm, with Prof. O'Rourke in his corner, punned brilliantly. He countered sharply and managed to sidestep Lahti's bullish charges. In the 21st round, Lahti was exhausted and mm pounded the champion into submission, knocking him out with a five-word right."
Aye, it's time for me ta be steppin' down...ye'll bring fresh blood to the sport, me lad...
http://www.ibhof.com/corbett.htm
Au contraire, m'Lahti, I demur. The revelation of my childhood accident in the gender pool - which forever cursed me as a sit-down pee-er, would unfairly force a chivalrous concession on your part; a concession, this thoroughly modern woman would dread.
But I'll still keep "handsome" as a souvenir.
As I hide my red face behind the nearest (paper, not spectator) fan, and salute mm's debutante (to this Rip van Winkle, anyway) removal of her baseball cap and shake of her head to reveal the luxuriant locks tucked beneath hitherto, I shall let the late Benny Hill, my master in matters music-hall, speak for me for all time; we'll always have New Orleans...from "Wild Women":
Now I was in a Chelsea bar one day,
And there was a chap stood about five feet away,
And we was both admiring a girl about twenty-one,
I said, "You just can't help but stare
At that cute little chick with the long blonde hair,"
He said, "That chick just happens to be my son."
I said, "I didn't mean to offend,
You must let me make a mend,
I mean at least let me buy you another rum.
I said, "You must think me an awful cad,
I didn't know you was his dad."
He said, "I'm not, you twit, I'm his mum."
http://monologues.co.uk/Comic_Songs/Wild_Women.htm
Au contraire square, as someone named "Rip" once called me, "Mum".
"Dueling Clowns", Barry Longyear, Circus World.
Of course, there's always Punday at Callahan's Saloon.
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