The rapper who went by the edifying moniker "Pimp C" turns out to have expired from an overserving of cough syrup. I don't suppose it's as embarrassing a way to die as, say, autoerotic asphyxiation, but still, jeez. It appears...
When I was in high school/early college about 20 years ago, my idiot punker friends and I did the Robo' a few times. Luckily no one died from it, but I did get really sick once. Ah, to be young, punk and stupid once more...
Larry Parker
February 13, 2008 10:35 PM
Maybe the guy needed all that cough syrup, RIP.
Evidently the lung he kept coughing up served as lyrics for him. (Sigh.)
Charles Cosimano
February 13, 2008 11:13 PM
Well, no one has ever accused a rapper of excess intelligence. At least he managed to die in a sufficiently humorous way to justify his having been born.
Michael Bates
February 13, 2008 11:21 PM
A high school classmate spent his freshman (and final) year at Bennington College drinking Robitussin and watching "The Price Is Right."
I think I'll stick with Fisherman's Friend.
John E.
February 13, 2008 11:22 PM
And because someone should say it before folks start dumping on us for not treating the passing of this Child of God with the respect that all of us that are created in His image deserve...
Eternal rest grant unto him, O Lord; and let perpetual light shine upon him. May he rest in peace. Amen.
Max Schadenfreude
February 14, 2008 2:04 AM
John E.
Quite right. Let us pray for him; but let us ridicule his choices.
Anonymous
February 14, 2008 4:52 AM
Rather, let us pray for all the idiots who think this guy deserves any attention at all.
Thousands of people died on the same day he did, who did far more with their lives (and probably a few wrote poetry), and deserve greater attention than this moron.
Having said that, I must admit that when I was recovering from a deviated septum operation in high school, I enjoyed the codeine pills. So when opportunities came for me to be prescribed codeine cough syrup, I relished them.
I wonder if that's wrong, or even immoral: drinking codeine cough syrup (not overdosing, not taking more than the measured amount), but taking it more for the calming effect than for the cough which has disappeared.
Christopher Mohr
February 14, 2008 5:32 AM
Charles,
At the risk of sounding odd, I'll say there are rappers that both have and use their excess intelligence. I don't agree with what he says, but Eminem would be one example. It takes alot of higher-order thought to be able to spin out the rhyme scheme evidenced in "Mosh" or "without Me" (which is a large part of why I call Eminem today's Pushkin). It's not a lack of intelligence, or a lack of its use. It's a lack in socially acceptable behaviors that is in evidence, not only in Pimp C, but also in the rapper population in general. And that's their choice.
zx
February 14, 2008 5:59 AM
I agree, we should pray for Rod, who thought this guy deserved our attention.
Max Schadenfreude
February 14, 2008 6:08 AM
"I agree, we should pray for Rod, who thought this guy deserved our attention."
We wouldn't expectorant anything less.
Max Schadenfreude
February 14, 2008 6:09 AM
I guess one could say he had a phlegmatic personality.
Rob G
February 14, 2008 8:14 AM
'It takes alot of higher-order thought to be able to spin out the rhyme scheme evidenced in "Mosh" or "without Me"'
Not really. A high-order thinker must show evidence of his genius in more that one way. Otherwise, he may just be an idiot-savant, or a knucklehead who happens to have a good handle on the rhyming dictionary.
"It's a lack in socially acceptable behaviors that is in evidence, not only in Pimp C, but also in the rapper population in general."
That's pretty much the understatement of the year.
For a fun experiment, watch a video of a live rap performance with the sound off. It will remind you of something not unlike a bunch of gorillas jumping around in their cage at the zoo. And please, no accusations of racism. I'm speaking of ANY rap performances -- black, white, or Latino.
el guerrero negro
February 14, 2008 8:42 AM
Puts me in mind of the 'Flaming Moe" episode of the Simpsons.
The racial angle is interesting on this. People always say whites steal culture from blacks, but X, cough syrup, psychadelia , man that is all white stuff. Just goes to show you the greatness of American multikulti
MI
February 14, 2008 8:52 AM
"Think of it as evolution in action," comes to mind upon reading this. I wonder if this guy's been nominated for a Darwin Award.
minimally literate reader
February 14, 2008 9:02 AM
which is a large part of why I call Eminem today's Pushkin
Oh. My. God.
Elizabeth Anne
February 14, 2008 10:03 AM
I saw, at a conference, a really amazing talk on Eminem and Juvenal. Pretty brilliant stuff.
Christopher Mohr
February 14, 2008 4:35 PM
Minimally -
I didn't say he was as good as Pushkin, but he is the Pushkin of our age, certainly. Have you read much Pushkin? I have, both in the original Russian and in a number of translations 9arndt's is probably the best). He was the master of the entire spectrum of emotion, as Eminem is, and both were incredibly controversial. Case in point: The Gabri-iliad. Read that once, especially the sections where he calls the Archangel Gabriel (at various points) an adulterer and a pimp -literally - and the sections where he describes Satan as having his way with Mary, mother of Jesus (as Gabriel does slightly later, BOTH before God gets his own slice of action with Mary). My point is, neither Eminem nor Pushkin shied away from controversy, and both of them crafted their works with wit and skill. Both attract(ed) considerable attention, and both were deft and skilled in word choice, rhyme, and form. Both were also quite adept at drawing their audience into their works.
Rob G - clearly, as an entrepreneur, he has shown his business acumen in a very volatile and cutthroat market. That takes enough higher order thought to form a strategy and execute it, to develop and further his connections, and to learn how to promote himself and translate that into wealth. He is now influencing the next generation, rather than focusing on himself entirely while making sure he increases his wealth. That requires at least some brilliance in today's social environment (by older standards, it's not much, but I would posit that the next generation or so sees higher-order thought in different ways and in different things than previous generations have). Not every Joe Schmoe in the music industry can do that. Like I've said previously, I don't care for his work, but it's not the work of a simpleton or even an average talent, by any definition. I say that as a poet who really looks at how words are strung together, and cannot conclude that he just got lucky with a rhyming dictionary.
mq
February 14, 2008 5:25 PM
The sublime Louis Armstrong was stoned (on pot) pretty much every day of his adult life. Just saying.
Rod Dreher
February 14, 2008 5:47 PM
And he loved him some Swiss Kriss laxative, too! But did he write songs of tribute to Swiss Kriss?
Rob G
February 14, 2008 6:06 PM
"...clearly, as an entrepreneur, he has shown his business acumen in a very volatile and cutthroat market. That takes enough higher order thought to form a strategy and execute it, to develop and further his connections, and to learn how to promote himself and translate that into wealth."
This may be true, but on the other hand, a lot of it may be due to his record label and his management. So much musical success these days is determined and controlled by the corporate world, that I tend to be extremely skeptical about the talent of any of these multi-platinum recording artists.
Likewise, being a musician myself and having some experience recording, both in front of and behind the soundboard, I know that practically anyone can be made to sound good in the studio these days, regardless of what talent they actually have.
Tony D.
February 14, 2008 9:21 PM
Just for the record, I'm really, really sorry that I read below the fold...you tried to warn me...
Speaking as a white person (and for all white people, I hasten to add), I have to admit this is pretty funny...but where's "Fight For Your Right to Party?"
Tony D.
February 15, 2008 12:32 PM
I'm sorry, of course I meant: Speaking as a White Person...
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Death by cough syrup ... how lame is that?
i doubt that this is the whole story...
someday...
an insider who knows the truth will...
cough it up...
When I was in high school/early college about 20 years ago, my idiot punker friends and I did the Robo' a few times. Luckily no one died from it, but I did get really sick once. Ah, to be young, punk and stupid once more...
Maybe the guy needed all that cough syrup, RIP.
Evidently the lung he kept coughing up served as lyrics for him. (Sigh.)
Well, no one has ever accused a rapper of excess intelligence. At least he managed to die in a sufficiently humorous way to justify his having been born.
A high school classmate spent his freshman (and final) year at Bennington College drinking Robitussin and watching "The Price Is Right."
I think I'll stick with Fisherman's Friend.
And because someone should say it before folks start dumping on us for not treating the passing of this Child of God with the respect that all of us that are created in His image deserve...
Eternal rest grant unto him, O Lord; and let perpetual light shine upon him. May he rest in peace. Amen.
John E.
Quite right. Let us pray for him; but let us ridicule his choices.
Rather, let us pray for all the idiots who think this guy deserves any attention at all.
Thousands of people died on the same day he did, who did far more with their lives (and probably a few wrote poetry), and deserve greater attention than this moron.
Having said that, I must admit that when I was recovering from a deviated septum operation in high school, I enjoyed the codeine pills. So when opportunities came for me to be prescribed codeine cough syrup, I relished them.
I wonder if that's wrong, or even immoral: drinking codeine cough syrup (not overdosing, not taking more than the measured amount), but taking it more for the calming effect than for the cough which has disappeared.
Charles,
At the risk of sounding odd, I'll say there are rappers that both have and use their excess intelligence. I don't agree with what he says, but Eminem would be one example. It takes alot of higher-order thought to be able to spin out the rhyme scheme evidenced in "Mosh" or "without Me" (which is a large part of why I call Eminem today's Pushkin). It's not a lack of intelligence, or a lack of its use. It's a lack in socially acceptable behaviors that is in evidence, not only in Pimp C, but also in the rapper population in general. And that's their choice.
I agree, we should pray for Rod, who thought this guy deserved our attention.
"I agree, we should pray for Rod, who thought this guy deserved our attention."
We wouldn't expectorant anything less.
I guess one could say he had a phlegmatic personality.
'It takes alot of higher-order thought to be able to spin out the rhyme scheme evidenced in "Mosh" or "without Me"'
Not really. A high-order thinker must show evidence of his genius in more that one way. Otherwise, he may just be an idiot-savant, or a knucklehead who happens to have a good handle on the rhyming dictionary.
"It's a lack in socially acceptable behaviors that is in evidence, not only in Pimp C, but also in the rapper population in general."
That's pretty much the understatement of the year.
For a fun experiment, watch a video of a live rap performance with the sound off. It will remind you of something not unlike a bunch of gorillas jumping around in their cage at the zoo. And please, no accusations of racism. I'm speaking of ANY rap performances -- black, white, or Latino.
Puts me in mind of the 'Flaming Moe" episode of the Simpsons.
The racial angle is interesting on this. People always say whites steal culture from blacks, but X, cough syrup, psychadelia , man that is all white stuff. Just goes to show you the greatness of American multikulti
"Think of it as evolution in action," comes to mind upon reading this. I wonder if this guy's been nominated for a Darwin Award.
which is a large part of why I call Eminem today's Pushkin
Oh. My. God.
I saw, at a conference, a really amazing talk on Eminem and Juvenal. Pretty brilliant stuff.
Minimally -
I didn't say he was as good as Pushkin, but he is the Pushkin of our age, certainly. Have you read much Pushkin? I have, both in the original Russian and in a number of translations 9arndt's is probably the best). He was the master of the entire spectrum of emotion, as Eminem is, and both were incredibly controversial. Case in point: The Gabri-iliad. Read that once, especially the sections where he calls the Archangel Gabriel (at various points) an adulterer and a pimp -literally - and the sections where he describes Satan as having his way with Mary, mother of Jesus (as Gabriel does slightly later, BOTH before God gets his own slice of action with Mary). My point is, neither Eminem nor Pushkin shied away from controversy, and both of them crafted their works with wit and skill. Both attract(ed) considerable attention, and both were deft and skilled in word choice, rhyme, and form. Both were also quite adept at drawing their audience into their works.
Rob G - clearly, as an entrepreneur, he has shown his business acumen in a very volatile and cutthroat market. That takes enough higher order thought to form a strategy and execute it, to develop and further his connections, and to learn how to promote himself and translate that into wealth. He is now influencing the next generation, rather than focusing on himself entirely while making sure he increases his wealth. That requires at least some brilliance in today's social environment (by older standards, it's not much, but I would posit that the next generation or so sees higher-order thought in different ways and in different things than previous generations have). Not every Joe Schmoe in the music industry can do that. Like I've said previously, I don't care for his work, but it's not the work of a simpleton or even an average talent, by any definition. I say that as a poet who really looks at how words are strung together, and cannot conclude that he just got lucky with a rhyming dictionary.
The sublime Louis Armstrong was stoned (on pot) pretty much every day of his adult life. Just saying.
And he loved him some Swiss Kriss laxative, too! But did he write songs of tribute to Swiss Kriss?
"...clearly, as an entrepreneur, he has shown his business acumen in a very volatile and cutthroat market. That takes enough higher order thought to form a strategy and execute it, to develop and further his connections, and to learn how to promote himself and translate that into wealth."
This may be true, but on the other hand, a lot of it may be due to his record label and his management. So much musical success these days is determined and controlled by the corporate world, that I tend to be extremely skeptical about the talent of any of these multi-platinum recording artists.
Likewise, being a musician myself and having some experience recording, both in front of and behind the soundboard, I know that practically anyone can be made to sound good in the studio these days, regardless of what talent they actually have.
Just for the record, I'm really, really sorry that I read below the fold...you tried to warn me...
http://www.catsandbeer.com/music/the-top-10-rap-songs-white-people-love
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_drank
Huh, this purple drank stuff isn't over-the-counter Robitussin DM. It's prescription codeine cough syrup.
http://www.catsandbeer.com/music/the-top-10-rap-songs-white-people-love
Speaking as a white person (and for all white people, I hasten to add), I have to admit this is pretty funny...but where's "Fight For Your Right to Party?"
I'm sorry, of course I meant: Speaking as a White Person...
I found the rap songs white people like through this site:
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/
(hat tip: Steve Sailer http://isteve.blogspot.com/ )
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