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Oscar open thread

Saturday February 23, 2008

Categories: Culture
The Academy Awards are Sunday night. I have no opinions on them, as chances are I've missed nearly every nominated movie this year (except "Once," which I hope wins every category it's nominated in). For ye readers who are interested...
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Anonymous
February 24, 2008 1:13 PM

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Rod Dreher
February 24, 2008 1:58 PM

Nobody who reads this blog cares about the Oscars? I'm encouraged!

Insane Kitten
February 24, 2008 2:42 PM

I'll only say that I hope "Falling Slowly" from "Once" wins best song. Unlikely, though, as three of the five nominated songs are from "Enchanted."

Rob G
February 24, 2008 3:58 PM

First year in my life I've seen all five films; also, first year in my life I've WANTED to see all five films. Very much liked four of the five, and can honestly say it's certainly nice for a change to have a choice of films which are all of good quality, all thoughtful and intelligent, and all for big people.

Didn't see all the nominated performances, however, so can't really comment on some of them.

Best Actor -- I think Daniel Day-Lewis is pretty much a shoo-in for THERE WILL BE BLOOD, a film which I very much disliked. Great performance in a not-so-great film. I liked Clooney in MICHAEL CLAYTON too, but I don't think he has much of a chance.

Best Actress -- Only saw Ellen Page in JUNO, which was great. Nothing to compare her performance with, however.

Best Supporting Actor -- Javier Bardem is brilliant as the sociopathic killer Anton Chigurh in NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN. Tom Wilkinson is prety darn good in MICHAEL CLAYTON too, but I can't see the Academy passing up Bardem's masterful turn.

Best Supporting Actress -- Saw three out of five of these: ATONEMENT, MICHAEL CLAYTON, and GONE BABY GONE. Tilda Swinton is very good in CLAYTON but I'm not sure if her part is "big" enough to get the gold. I think I'd give a slight edge to Saoirse Ronan for ATONEMENT over Amy Ryan in GONE BABY.

Best Director: Joe Wright's not up for ATONEMENT so this makes it a little easier. I'd give it to the Coens for NO COUNTRY...

Best Picture: More difficult, since I liked 4 out of the 5. As good as I think JUNO and MICHAEL CLAYTON are, I don't think either is quite substantial enough to win the Oscar. I didn't like THERE WILL BE BLOOD, but lots of other people did, so it's a possibility. Personally I'd give ATONEMENT a very slight edge over NO COUNTRY... but would be happy if either won.

By the way, I think that there will be less interest in the Oscars this year precisely because none of these films is a "blockbuster" and they are all grown-up and somewhat "difficult" movies.

Kevin Divine
February 24, 2008 9:32 PM

I've got the NASCAR race on, though Fox is going to the Simpsons because of rain on the track. The kiddos are watching a repeat episode of Lazytown in the back room. No interest in the Oscars at all.

fbc
February 24, 2008 11:22 PM

What is this "Oscars" you talk about?

Cleveland
February 25, 2008 12:03 AM

"What is this "Oscars" you talk about?" fbc

It's about homosocialists giving out awards for what was once, a long time ago, a patriotic celebration of traditional American films.

Insane Kitten
February 25, 2008 7:27 AM

Razzberries to you, Cleveland.

I'm so glad my prediction above was wrong! Congrats to Glen Hansard and Marketa Irglova!

Rob G
February 25, 2008 7:32 AM

Hmmm...ha -- did pretty good on my predictions. A bit surprised about Tilda Swinton, but not disappointed. Very glad that ONCE won best song for 'Falling Slowly,' and that JUNO got best original screenplay.

Just Some Guy
February 25, 2008 9:18 AM

I, too, am so glad that Glen Hansard and Marketa Irglova won for "Falling Slowly." "Once" is a perfect little movie, remarkably void of narrative cliches. I don't want to give away any plot details for anyone who hasn't seen it, so I'll just say I especially liked the relationship between Guy and his father and the resolution of the relationship between Guy and Girl. The final few scenes are, in my opinion, perfect storytelling. There was a point near the end when I couldn't see how the filmmakers could wrap up the story, but when they did, it felt both unexpected and inevitable.

Hansard's and Irglova's acceptance speeches were wonderful, too, and if you search for "Once Oscar acceptance" on the YouTube, you should be able to find them.

I'm also pleased that Diablo Cody won for her "Juno" screenplay. That was a good piece of work, presenting the subject of teenage pregnancy in such a manner as to have those on both sides of the issue rally around the movie. That tells me she succeeded in telling the story in a suitably nuanced way.

I'm disappointed that Hal Holbrook didn't win for his role in "Into the Wild," though I haven't seen any of the other nominated performances, so I'm arguing in ignorance. But Holbrook's performance was so heart-breaking, I almost cried (again) during the little clip they showed during the ceremony.

One last thought: Is anyone else sick to death of the whole "Let's seat Nicholson down front and cut to shots of him mugging throughout the ceremony" routine?

Rob G
February 25, 2008 9:38 AM

'I'm disappointed that Hal Holbrook didn't win for his role in "Into the Wild," though I haven't seen any of the other nominated performances, so I'm arguing in ignorance. But Holbrook's performance was so heart-breaking, I almost cried (again) during the little clip they showed during the ceremony.'

Haven't seen the movie yet, JSG, but I loved the book. Looking forward to checking it out.

Larry Parker
February 25, 2008 1:21 PM

I didn't realize until last night what a marvelously beautiful woman Marion Cotillard is.

(The buzz around Hollywood was that she deserved the award; it was just a matter of getting enough voters to see her Edith Piaf biography. I guess enough did -- that, and there is also the trend in recent years of giving Oscars for portraying real-life people over fictional characters.)

Alicia
February 25, 2008 1:59 PM

I love the Oscars -- they remind me, every year, of how much I love actors, directors, and movies. Yes, Jack Nicholson's "mugging" has gotten a bit old for me, too. Best moment was the Honorary Oscar to the 98 year old Production Designer Robert Boyle, and the clips from "North by Northwest" and "The Birds."

Also, Helen Mirren looked truly fabulous in her flame-colored gown. She gets my vote for best-dressed of the evening.

recovering ex-Pentecostal
February 25, 2008 4:41 PM

Despite Cleveland's uncharitable remarks above, one film I am pleased to see that won was "Freeheld" about a lesbian police officer dying of cancer and her (ultimately) successfull struggle to ensure her "partner" (gawd what an awful word) received her pension benefits upon her death. All her valiant efforts would have been unnecessary if America let ALL of its citizens marry the person they actually love.

Cleveland
February 25, 2008 7:32 PM

"All her valiant efforts would have been unnecessary if America let ALL of its citizens marry the person they actually love."

Welcome back, recovering ex-Pentecostal. If I lived in the homosocialist gulag you do, I, too, would want to communicate with free people.

I was shocked, shocked to see the Academy award "Freeheld." I was not shocked, however, to see a report of the lowest viewers in history. Homosocialism and making anti-American propaganda films bashing our kids in uniform is not a real popular phenomenon here, or in any free country.

BTW, ALL Americans ARE free to actually "marry" the persons they actually love, provided they are single and of age. We even are free to pretend homosexual relations are actually marriage, especially in Massachusetts. In fact, unlike life in your gulag, we Americans are still free to publicly criticize aggressive homosexualism and call it like it is, without having to hire an attorney. Except in places like Massachusetts, despite the NEA and the ACLU, we still can protect our children from being proselytized by homosexuals with our own tax money.

Rob G
February 26, 2008 7:35 AM

"I was not shocked, however, to see a report of the lowest viewers in history. Homosocialism and making anti-American propaganda films bashing our kids in uniform is not a real popular phenomenon here, or in any free country."

Cleveland, I'm just as anti-homosocialism and anti-anti-Americanism as you are, but I don't think that the reasons you mention are why the Oscars had a low number of viewers. None of the major films nominated this year was either pro-homosexual or anti-American. The reason, as I mentioned above, was that the films this year were perceived as 'serious,''challenging' or 'difficult', hence a lot of your average moviegoers, who tend to like things like "Titanic" and "Spiderman" didn't see them. Basically, no blockbusters, only a few big stars, etc.

As for "Freeheld," it sounds exactly like the sort of preachy, message movie that I hate. I saw enough of these growing up as a fundamentalist Christian -- certainly don't want to see any made by fundamentalist homosexuals, or fundamentalists of any stripe, truth be told.

Cleveland
February 26, 2008 6:23 PM

You may well be correct, Rob, as to why the Oscars had a worst-ever viewing. Still, I like to think that even the mind-numbed masses are beginning to see through the anti-American culture that Hollywood feeds them year after year.

A few days ago I purchased a cable TV movie, "In the Valley of Elah," because it had great reviews and because Tommy Lee Jones never made a movie I regretted watching. Besides, Charlize Theron cleans up pretty well. About three quarters of the way through the movie it became clear that even Tommy Lee Jones was into the Democrat Party's "our troops are just murdering, torturing Bushites". What a disappointment!

In past years I have often joined my wife to watch the last half of the Oscars--she is a liberal, gullible, loving woman in desperate need of political direction. ;-) But this year, "In the Valley of Elah" was the last straw. I simply could not enjoy watching the arrogant, self-congratulating nip and tuck crowd (peppered with grinning but hate-filled homosocialists) act as if our kids were not out there risking their lives for our freedom. I hope that the low viewer numbers indicate others finally have had enough, too.



Rob G
February 27, 2008 7:38 AM

'A few days ago I purchased a cable TV movie, "In the Valley of Elah," because it had great reviews and because Tommy Lee Jones never made a movie I regretted watching.'

I avoided that one specifically because of the anti-war message. And actually, other than TLJ being nominated for Best Actor in it, that movie wasn't very prominent at all. It certainly wasn't "Brokeback-arama" all over again.

Personally, I found this year's Oscars quite heartening. While they haven't exactly restored my faith in the Academy (any faith I had in Hollywood is long gone), they did demonstrate that on rare occasions they manage to exhibit a modicum of intelligence.

recovering ex-Pentecostal
February 27, 2008 4:32 PM

"Homosocialism"??? "gulag"??? You're sounding more and more like "Donny" every day, Cleveland.

Nice, too, how you link "homosocialism" with "anti-American propaganda films". Is treating all citizens equally before the law (like the Constitution promises) somehow "anti-American" now?

Also, you neglected to say WHY you were "shocked, shocked to see the Academy award "Freeheld." Care to tell us now? I'm interested, but could do without the slurs, thanx in advance. (If it's just your anti-homosexual bent, don't bother. We already know that.)

Oh, and exactly which films do you feel were "bashing our kids in uniform"? ("Elah" sounds like it was bashing Bush policies, and if that's the case, good on 'em. No one should have to die because of a lie.)

"BTW, ALL Americans ARE free to actually "marry" the persons they actually love, provided they are single and of age."

Provided they are resident in the State of Massachusetts, you are correct. (And no "pretending" required.) Funny how George W(armonger) Bush has actually had more same-sex marriages created under his, er, 'watch' than jobs.

What's "homosexualism"? Is it anything like religionism?

And I really don't think you are as "free" as you believe. If you threaten people with harm, and/or promote harm to an identifiable person or group, you had BETTER have a good lawyer. And rightly so.

"we still can protect our children from being proselytized by homosexuals with our own tax money"

If gay people actually DID proselytize, you might have a point. What? Do you actually believe the joke chant, "Ten percent is not enough. Recruit! Recruit! Recruit!"??? U 2 funnee. You'd think we get a free toaster oven with every 10 signed up. (Must have missed my stint at the enrollment centre.)

Glad to hear your wallet took a hit. Why a religionist-conservativist would rent an anti-war movie (and then have the gall to gripe about it) escapes me.

Blessings on you and your wife. Good luck with the doling out of her "political direction". Do you still do it with the rod, as per the Bible? ;{O

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