Crunchy Con

"Simply one night he heard screams."

Wednesday February 13, 2008

Categories: Varia

Speaking of the evil of communism:

The daughter of a former German diplomat in Moscow was trying to explain to me why her father, who, as an enlightened modern man, had been extremely pro-Communist, had become an implacable anti-Communist. It was hard for her because, as an enlightened modern girl, she shared the Communist vision without being a Communist. But she loved her father and the irrationality of his defection embarrassed her. "He was immensely pro-Soviet," she said, "and then -- you will laugh at me -- but you must not laugh at my father -- and then -- one night -- in Moscow -- he heard screams. That's all. Simply one night he heard screams."

A child of Reason and the 20th century, she knew that there is a logic of the mind. She did not know that the soul has a logic that may be more compelling than the mind's. She did not know at all that she had swept away the logic of the mind, the logic of history, the logic of politics, the myth of the 20th century, with five annihilating words: one night he heard screams.

-- Whittaker Chambers, "Witness"

On a related point, the Washington Post reported today:


After years of refusing public comment on a particularly harsh CIA interrogation method, top Bush administration officials have suddenly begun pressing a controversial argument that it was legal for the CIA to strap prisoners to a board and pour water over their face to make them believe they were being drowned.

...
The government's defense of the waterboarding episodes, laid out in congressional testimony and administration statements over the past two weeks, relies on a complex legal argument that many scholars and human rights advocates say is at odds with settled law barring conduct that amounts to torture, at any time or for any reason. It also leaves open the possibility that, under the right conditions, the CIA could decide to use the tactic again.

If you could hear the screams of prisoners being waterboarded by US interrogators, how would you regard the practice? How would you regard the country that practiced such torture? How would you feel if your son were being waterboarded? How would you feel if your son were doing the waterboarding?

I'm not saying that the US is the moral equivalent of the USSR, for heaven's sake. The point I'm trying to make has to do with the logic of the soul. The mind can rationalize torture, but the soul cannot, without losing itself.

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Cleveland
February 17, 2008 4:35 PM

"You know, her father did just pass away recently."

I did not know that about Coulter. Thanks, Kitten.

Marian Neudel
February 18, 2008 12:47 PM

Hope the loss of her father makes Coulter a more compassionate person.

Cleveland
February 18, 2008 3:00 PM

Marian, first, maybe you should try a little compassion for her at this time in her life.

Second, why is it that Socialists throughout history talk about the "lack of compassion" on the Right, and then, when they gain control, produce hell on earth; the USSR, the Nazis, Red China, North Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, the Taliban, the Banana Republics, etc.? How's that for the promised compassion?

The rot is underway in Canada and Europe, as well. If it weren't for its Catholic/Christian roots, where would Canada and Europe be today?

Coulter knows the phoney compassion argument very well, and exposes it with facts and humor. I don't know what, if anything, she said about waterboarding, but I'll have to look. I can imagine her saying, "Well, if Bush allowed waterboarding, it would only be compassionate conservative waterboarding."

Jay Wise
February 19, 2008 12:30 AM

Someone said smug? I can see that. I can see the superiority all over those who rant about waterboarding. It's anti-Bush hysteria.
No that I like Bush; I don't.
Here's the truth...that stuff goes on, and it always has, and it always will. You can't stop it. There are guys on both sides, well, in every country, who do this stuff for a living. If you think otherwise you're naive.
They do what they have to do, and it's often ugly.
It's okay to off somebody outright while at war, but not okay to scare the sh** out of them. I can't make sense of this.
If some guy has info, and we need it, we should try to get it.
Some say that torture isn't beneficial because the victim will tell you anything to make you stop. On the other hand, I'm sure that good info has been retrieved.
It's a tough issue, and not as black and white as the people here seem to think.
I'm not consistent on these issues myself, and I admit as such. While I am against the war, I know instinctively that the war has probably kept us from being attacked a second time here in the states. And I'll make an awful prediction...if Obama gets in, and it looks like he will, we'll pull out of Iraq, and the crazies will refocus their energies on the continental U.S., especially if the liberal POTUS backs off and refuses to play hardball against terrorism. I hate to say stuff like this, but I have a gut feeling. Say what you want about Bush, and his "taking away our civil liberties", blah blah, we haven't been hit again.

Franklin Evans
February 19, 2008 9:12 AM

Cleveland, I never fail to notice a woman. Call it the bias of my upbringing, call it what you will, but while I will never deny my male reactions to (what I consider) an attractive woman, I will also make the effort to see all of her. Coulter is a strong, intelligent, well-educated woman who epitomizes the corruption of superficiality. She aids the obfuscation of the facts. Indeed, if she'd taken a high road, the Republicans might well be grooming her for high office... but, instead, she finds the shrill cackling some ascribe to the liberals a more attactive mode of expression. I can only grieve.

As for compassion, she rarely shows it. And I know all about losing a parent.

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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