The end of Clintonism

I like Mark Shea's comment here, that he's enjoying "watching the Clintons swirl around the drain."

I still think Bill was a good president overall, taking one thing with another and remembering not to expect too much. Obviously not a good moral or patriotic example for the people, but he was the best economic leader we've ever had, and he did at least have enough sense to avoid any massively expensive and endless wars on the other side of the world.

Hillary, alas, seems to have none of Bill's good sense or charisma, and all of his arrogance and sense of entitlement. Good riddance to her.

Does anyone else think that in Bill Clinton's heart of hearts, he has it really good now(on his squalid terms, anyway). So much so that while he's invested in her campaign as his legacy, he might not really be all that dissappointed if she lost. It would mess up his good thing-hot&cold running blondes and big checks for little work across the globe. Being 1st Gent would mess that all up. The big sign-they won't release their 1040. To most normal people, his be a bizarre existence. But that has been par form the course for CLinton since Day 1.

I can't help but contrast the laudatory comments praising the late William F. Buckley in the blog entry above with this post. Some of us, like me, have as high regard for the Clintons as do those praising the legacy of Bill Buckley. For all their obvious flaws, the Clintons remain two enormously talented individuals whom I believe are truly dedicated to this country's best interests.

Does that mean I don't see the flaws in the Clinton legacy? Of course I do, but it would be refreshing to see a bit less rejoicing at what appears to be Hillary's demise as Democratic front runner. That would show the kind of civility for which the posters above are rightly praising the late Bill Buckley.

There is just no comparison between the Clinton and Buckley. Buckley was intelligent, principled, and courageous in the face of adversity.

The Clintons are hated for a good reason.

"..intellectually and morally bankrupt..."

Sex Scandals? Impeachment? War in Serbia/Kosovo? China? Clinton was probably our nation's most intellectually and morally bankrupt leader. It's pretty hard to top Clinton.

Now, the Clintons are socialists and were communists when young. Socialism and Communism don't work, which is why the Soviet Union collapsed and China is trying to phase out references to Mao in their textbooks. Europe's economic growth is stagnating under the mass of taxes and regulations imposed on them.

Clinton had nothing to do with the prosperity of the 90s. Regan before him laid the foundations that made the tech boom so great.

"... but don't call them worthless..."

I wouldn't have called them worthless back in 1992, but now that know how awful they are, they deserved to be bashed.

I saw Bill Clinton at Mountain View College yesterday and that turnout was good. Especially since it was quite cold and outdoors. I was able to 'meet' him with a quick handshake. But yes, I also saw Senator Clinton in Oak Cliff last Friday, only 4 days prior. And the feeling of importance and immediacy was eroded, and as you say, the 'Clinton brand' too.

Not that long ago President Bill Clinton was the 'political rock star'. Now, as Britney Spears is in a psyche ward, Miley Cyrus is the rage. Ah politics and the fickleness of fame and fleeting fortune.

Meanwhile, as my sister succinctly said; when this is over he will still be an ex two-term president respected internationally, and she an American Senator. So don’t cry for them, San Diego.

Sex Scandals?
Unlike the Republicans, who would never run someone who's cheated on his wife.

Impeachment?
Blaming the Bill Clinton for his impeachment is somewhat akin to blaming JFK for his assassination.

War in Serbia/Kosovo?
Yeah, because stopping ethnic cleansing? Way way worse than invading a place and causing it to start. (And by any standard of the Iraq war, Kosovo was an amazing success.)

China?
Yes, Clinton stupidly listened to much to the right-wing DLC for foreign policy and continued what the right had started. Thank goodness Bush fixed out China policy. (Remind me what he did again?)

Clinton was probably our nation's most intellectually and morally bankrupt leader. It's pretty hard to top Clinton.
I'm going to assume that "It's" was actually short for "It was" instead of "It is", and while I don't agree that it would have been that hard to be worse than Clinton, I will freely admit that Bush has gone well beyond the call of duty there.

Now, the Clintons are socialists and were communists when young. Socialism and Communism don't work, which is why the Soviet Union collapsed and China is trying to phase out references to Mao in their textbooks. Europe's economic growth is stagnating under the mass of taxes and regulations imposed on them.
Whereas our economy is flying off into the sunset. Or at least started that way, then caught on fire and crashed into the ocean because Bush filled our gas tank with sugar water instead of gas.

Incidentally, no one but you is buying that socialist/communist stuff.

Clinton had nothing to do with the prosperity of the 90s. Regan before him laid the foundations that made the tech boom so great.
The tech boom did not cause the prosperity of the 90s. The fact we actually had a functioning economy caused the prosperity of the 90s.

Pretty much what those other people said. Reality's phone number is listed. Get in touch sometime.