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Them belly full (but we hungry)

Thursday February 28, 2008

Categories: Culture

I can't say often enough that if you are a traditional-minded Christian (or fellow traveler) who enjoys the kinds of things we talk about on this blog -- that is, the confluence of theology, morality and culture -- you really ought to subscribe to the Mars Hill Audio Journal. It's what the Crunchy Con blog wants to be when it grows up. Download a free sample podcast here to see what it's like.

I hadn't noticed till downloading Volume 89 the other night that I hadn't copied Volume 88 (Nov/Dec) onto my iPod. So I've got a lot of catching up to do. This morning I listened to Ken Myers interview Steve Talbott, who wrote a book about how technology is divorcing us from an experience of reality. The Mars Hill interview focuses on the role of technology in educating, and mis-educating, modern children.

Talbott tells a story about a father who went out with his son on a nature trail. They encountered a rattlesnake along the way, and spent a while observing the creature before finally making their way around it. At the end of the day, the boy told his father that this was the "best day of his life." Talbott asks if any child would ever say that to a dad who had sat down with him to watch a nature video about rattlesnakes.

The answer, obviously, is no. But why not? If education is simply a matter of accumulating facts, there is no difference between learning about rattlesnakes from a nature video, versus encountering a rattlesnake in the wild. Right? But obviously there is. Talbott's point is that there is something more to real education, and it has to do with direct experience, and the context in which we acquire this information. Myers remarked that this is the modern approach to knowledge: isolating facts from context, and mistakenly thinking we can truly understand a thing by grasping factual information alone. In fact, we starve ourselves of real knowledge, and understanding, by using technology (e.g., computers, television) to abstract ourselves from reality.

This discussion reminded me of a passage I from "The Omnivore's Dilemma," in which Michael Pollan addressed new discoveries science is making about the nutritive value of plants grown in different ways. We used to think that if you isolated the macronutrients in food, you could understand what made one food more nutritious than another. But it turns out there are deep subtleties in food that affect nutritive value. Polyphenols, for example, look like they might have a previous unrealized importance to human health -- and they are present in much higher numbers in organically grown produce than in conventionally grown produce. This, Pollan says, "might explain why diets heavy in processed food fortified with vitamins still aren't as nutritious as fresh foods. You wonder what else is going on in these plants, what other undiscovered qualities in them we've evolved to depend on."

I do wonder what ways we are undernourishing ourselves, literally and figuratively, by relying so heavily on technology to mediate our experience of the natural world. It's like a great philospher said, "Them belly full but we hungry."

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stefanie
February 29, 2008 4:08 PM

Technology is an intrinsic part of the human condition. Go to the Smithsonian, or Field Museum in Chicago, and look at South Sea Island fishhooks. There are many different kinds, all exquisitely made, all for catching different kinds of fish. Then move over to the nets. They look simple, but I can assure you, you or I would have an enormous amount of trouble replicating them without extensive instruction, and knowledge capital.

Technology distances us from nature, because nature in the raw is not something we want to directly experience. The two earliest technologies were spear points and weaving. The spear, and its point, separated the hunter from having to wrestle his prey hand-to-hand. Weaving separated the wearer from the cold stone upon which she sat; freed her from having only two hands with which to carry things, and ultimately distinguished groups of people from one another (i.e. by supplying clothing that was more than just covering nakedness; clothing that communicated social status as well as covering.)

You really don't want to be "one with nature" in the raw...

Scott Lahti
February 29, 2008 8:34 PM

"You really don't want to be 'one with nature' in the raw..." - stefanie

If by "in the raw"* you mean naked as an, um, *jaybird*, then, Yeah!

I do make an exception for sushi, though.

[And that's not even taking the full measure, as it were, for us Y-chromosome types under exposure to the elements, of what George Costanza would call "shrinkage"...]

*"naked as a jaybird"

"Bare, unclothed, as in 'I came straight out of the shower, naked as a jaybird.' This simile replaced the 19th-century 'naked as a robin' and is equally unclear, since neither bird is normally stripped of its feathers. Further, the bird it refers to is more often called simply 'jay' rather than 'jaybird,' yet the latter is always part of the simile. [c. 1940]"

- American Heritage Dictionary of Idioms

Lord Karth
February 29, 2008 8:55 PM

>

Implanted "tags" are already commonly used to locate our pets, and there is talk by some parents of using them to keep track of their children. The "critic" (which wasn't my idea, btw; Dean Ing came up with it in the late 70s) is certainly possible, and probably quite cheap---it's based on the arm- and leg-bands that are already in use for criminals on house arrests. And the surveillance technology exists.

Given an unscrupulous leader with ambitions---and if you don't think they exist in this country, go back to playing with your dollies and don't bother the adults---all it would take is one 9/11-grade attack to get the ball rolling.

Don't assume it couldn't happen here.

Now, please, go back to your madrigals if it suits you......

Your servant,

Lord Karth

Scott Lahti
February 29, 2008 11:28 PM

"Now, please, go back to your madrigals if it suits you......" - Lord Karth, Our Loyally Em-braced Retainer

Is, that, then, your own Reninsouciant-man's way of saying, Party on, Karth?

If so, my Lordly suite,
Our commentors' ranks herein
Prove more than a trifle thin,
As we never the Wayne shall meet

And pray thee no offense, but some among us might prefer madri*guys* to madrigals - not that there be anything lewd with that, as Lord Jerry of the Seinfeld hath spake...

tinyurl.com/3y2qep

jaybird
March 1, 2008 9:58 PM

Like I said, Teddy K. territory...

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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