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Forgiveness Vespers

Sunday March 9, 2008

Categories: Orthodoxy
Tonight, the eve of Great Lent, we and all other Orthodox churches around the world observed Forgiveness Vespers. Here's the liturgy for tonight's service. Notice this at the end: THE DISMISSAL PRIEST: May Christ our true God, through the intercessions...
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Liz
March 9, 2008 11:30 PM

I am in tears reading about this ritual. THIS is what Christianity is. THIS is what ritual is. THIS is what humility is.

Thank you for sharing it with us. More, please.

Tony D.
March 9, 2008 11:59 PM

My reaction to Forgiveness Vespers changes every year - - as I'm sure it does for most of the faithful. This year, at the end of it all, I began to reflect on what I had just said over and over - - "As God forgives, I forgive" - - and, like a ten ton shot to the gut, it hit me...No. No, no, no. I do NOT forgive as God forgives.

Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me.

Jim
March 10, 2008 12:41 AM

What Liz said. The closest this Catholic has got to that sort of experience has been the washing of the feet on Holy Thursday and the exchange of the sign of peace in a congregation that felt no need for something perfunctory and rushed (i.e. like people actually MEANT it :-)

Charles Cosimano
March 10, 2008 12:59 AM

Not something that appeal to me for lots of reasons, but anyone who gets that serious about a belief is someone I have to respect, as well as the belief structure that supports it.

Kevin Divine
March 10, 2008 2:04 AM

Rod,
Go to a sporting goods store next year and get yourself a pair of soccer socks and shin guards. And volleyball knee pads. Theres a reason floor installers use the things.

More seriously, I wish we had such ritual in our denomination [SBC] but it isn't going to happen. The closest thing I've ever seen is when we did communion Catholic-style at a church I attended in Korea [but not for ritual but rather for the fact that we were in a rented space with purple liquid on white carpet--you can lay mats up front]. That said, there are "ritualistic idiosyncrasies" which let one predict what's happening next, but they don't have the spiritual force and meaning you describe.

Richard Barrett
March 10, 2008 7:26 AM

At my parish the tenor of Forgiveness Vespers is different from year to year, and I'm not sure what accounts for that. I've seen it be somber, with virtually everybody in tears; last night it was danged *chipper*. I'm sure somehow that's a reading on some dynamic within the community, but I couldn't tell you how or what it is.

I just wish more people came. Seems to me if the whole parish isn't there, a point has been missed somehow.

Charles: for what it's worth -- to some extent, it's not something which appeals to me, either, but whether or not it appeals to me isn't exactly the point. The point is, this is what we do, and we do it because we need to do it.

Richard

sigaliris
March 10, 2008 9:03 AM

I'll tell you what is not an empty ritual: It's when you put your arms around your child, look her in the face and say, "Sweetheart, I'm so sorry I did not listen to what you were trying to say. That was wrong. I really want to hear what you are thinking. Would you please tell me now?" It's when you take the hand of your spouse and look into their eyes, and say "Darling, I was so wrong to speak to you that way. What happened was not your fault. I was frustrated and took it out on you. I feel so bad because no one should ever treat you that way, least of all me. I think I need some outside advice about how to handle this better. What do you think about that?" Or when you sit down with a friend and say this: "You were right last night. I was drunk. I should not have been driving. I'm very scared when I think about what could have happened. I need help. I need to stop drinking. I'm going to an AA meeting tonight."

Confessing to the specific wrong, to the important person in your life, and doing all in your power to make it right, is a life-giving act. If Forgiveness Vespers encourages that, it's a wonderful thing. If it substitutes a feel-good ritual for essential action, then it's not so great. I imagine that only each person involved knows which way his own heart is going.

I've often had Matthew 5:23-24 come to mind when I needed it: Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift. If you hurt somebody, do your best to fix it. No excuses, no exceptions. True every day, not just once a year. It actually feels really good, once you get into it.

aquaman
March 10, 2008 9:38 AM


Rod, thanks for sharing this ritual from your tradition. I'm intrigued with how my congregation might adapt it for our use next Lent.

Peace.

Baton Rouge Reader
March 10, 2008 10:43 AM

At our adult catechism class Sunday morning, we've been reading a text by St Innocent of Alaska and our discussion covered the profound importance of cultivating a desire to deny oneself and take up the cross as we follow Jesus. Several people brought up the importance of true repentance and holy tears.

I saw more than a few of those tears at the ceremony of forgiveness.

The reference above to the importance of particular repentance and specific appeals for forgiveness is right on target. In my limited experience, the ceremony of forgiveness offers us an opportunity to practice ritually what we should be doing throughout our lives - seeking real reconciliation.

Lord have mercy!

Barbara
March 10, 2008 10:53 AM

I experienced something somewhat similar in college. For a Christian Traditions class, we were expected to attend three different religious services and write a paper contrasting and comparing. One service could be from our own background, one from another Christian denomination, and hopefully one from yet another Christian denomination with a different cultural background. The last one really translated into attending an African-American service.

I attended an African Methodist Episcopal service, and at the end everyone made a circle around the church and went through the Sign of Peace until everyone had faced everyone. It felt so much more intimate and personal.

Frederica Mathewes-Green
March 10, 2008 11:00 AM

As we started the rite of forgiveness last night it struck me that I should confess the things I felt guilty about, mostly for ignoring, neglecting, or failing to pray for others; or for being irritating or annoying to them. So I started around the circle expressing these things and was surprised to find, when i came to someone new, often they would express the same thing to me even before I spoke. Maybe the Holy Spirit was sprinkling that awareness around the room. We're blessed to have a pretty happy congregation with no serious rifts or bitterness. But we do get irritated with each other, and its easy to fail to notice someone who could use a kind word. Saying this out loud, I think, will make me more attentive about it in the coming year.

This was the 16th time I've done the rite of forgiveness, and I agree with Richard, the mood can really vary. We've found that it's important to stress that everyone remain silent when they are finished. (It starts with only two people exchanging forgiveness, grows until everyone is doing it, then diminishes to only two again.) When you're thought it's tempting to start to chat with neighbors in order to throw off the awkwardness, and then a cheerful hubbub starts that undermines the seriousness.

The difficulty I've found in trying to adapt this for others is mostly logistical -- You start with a circle and then *one end* overlaps, while the rest continue moving up, in line behind that end. I tried to do this once in an Episcopal Cathedral and failed to get the logistics right in my instructions, so though everyone was exchanging forgiveness with someone else (and it certainly wasn't a waste of time), it was just a scramble of humans. So it is good to practice, at least mentally, to visualize who goes where and when.

Rod Dreher
March 10, 2008 11:48 AM

You know, Frederica, I can't think of a single thing anybody in our congregation has done to me in the past year to merit even the request of forgiveness. But going through the line last night, I was thinking about how often I'd failed this specific person in front of me. We are still fairly new to the congregation, and I thought about how I'd wanted to say hello to that person in front of me, but didn't do it out of shyness and insecurity. Maybe he really doesn't like me. Or: She probably thinks I'm a fraud. Stuff like that sounds stupid and petty in retrospect, but it lodges in your mind, and over time you end up erecting barriers between you and your fellows in the congregation, barriers that ought not exist.

Even if Forgiveness Vespers in a congregation the size we have can't be the sort of ritual where people have the time to talk at length about their relationship during the ritual, at least it serves as a starting point for cleaning the slate. I know there are some people I'll now be a lot less reticent about approaching at church coffee hour, simply because we said our first words to each other last night -- and they were words of forgiveness. That's not nothing.

Marian Neudel
March 10, 2008 12:42 PM

Wow! That is a terrific ritual.

The Jewish custom that parallels this goes on during the month of Elul, which precedes Rosh HaShanah (the New Year.) During that month we ask forgiveness of each other (individually, f2f or by phone or email or however) and offer our forgiveness to each other. We also try to use that month to resolve conflicts and pay debts. Some people make a special point of doing this during Yom Kippur (the Day of Atonement, which comes at the end of the High Holidays) but more compulsive people like me try to get it done before that.

AnotherBeliever
March 10, 2008 3:19 PM

That's an amazing ceremony. It speaks more to the truth of Christ's message and the actions of his first followers than anything I have heard of in recent memory... Thanks for sharing it.

Scott Walker
March 10, 2008 3:55 PM

Interesting that others note different moods from year to year. We were pretty chipper last night, as well. Nonetheless, the strategically placed Kleenex boxes took a major hit. It's easy to pick the favorite Orthodox service: Pascha, obviously. After that, though, there are so many-the Blessing Of The Waters at Theophany, Forgiveness Vespers, Bridegroom Vespers, Great and Holy Saturday, when the kids rattle pots and pans to celebrate Christ breaking out of Hell, and I always get leaky-it's good to be here. I ask anybody I may have offended in my posts to please forgive me. A blessed Lent to all.

The Man From K Street
March 10, 2008 4:00 PM

In a way, I wish I was more moved by reading about this ceremony, but, sad to say, I don't think I'd like it if it were adopted in the West. To me it smacks of something like one of those ghastly Moonie weddings, but instead involving one of the other Holy Sacraments besides Matrimony.

The Man From K Street
March 10, 2008 4:04 PM

Plus it seems a bit hypocritical for a snarky critic of post-Conciliar liberal Catholicism, known for its suspect "General Absolution" services, to now hold this up as something the Latins are deficient in.

Rod Dreher
March 10, 2008 4:14 PM

What happened last night was not a sacramental confession, nor was it "religious entertainment." It was about reconciling oneself to the others in the parish. Nobody is required to attend (certainly not everyone in our parish did), but having gone through it once, I wouldn't miss it again without a very good reason. It was difficult to do, and if I had a serious disagreement or issue with someone in the parish, it would have been really, really hard. But also necessary, at least for Christians.

As I said earlier in this thread, I can't think of a single thing anybody in the parish has to apologize to me for. But as I made my way around the room last night, I would think about how I had failed to be as kind as I ought to have been to this person or that person, and how in almost every case, it was because of my own petty fears, or smallness of character. It was startling to me to realize that about a third of the people in church last night, people whose faces I see every Sunday during liturgy, I hadn't spoken a word to in the two years we've been attending there.

That's wrong. At least I believe it's wrong. And it took last night's service, in which we who choose to participate in it come face to face for a moment with each other person in the parish, for me to understand my sins of omission, and to repent of them.

Dave
March 10, 2008 4:17 PM

Pardon my ignorance, but I'm confused by the phrase "the holy and righteous ancestors of God, Joachim and Anna". Did I miss something in Genesis?

The Man From K Street
March 10, 2008 4:36 PM

Pardon my ignorance, but I'm confused by the phrase "the holy and righteous ancestors of God, Joachim and Anna". Did I miss something in Genesis?

Joachim and Anna were Mary's Parents.

Mary was the Mother of God.

Ergo, Joachim and Anna were the holy and righteous ancestors of God. No Catholic or Orthodox has much of a problem with this formulation.

Rod Dreher
March 10, 2008 5:34 PM

Correct, nor with speaking of Mary as the "mother of God." It's actually a Christological formula, meant to emphasize that Jesus Christ -- God Himself -- was incarnate of a human mother. Similarly with the commonly used Orthodox term for Mary, the "Theotokos" (God-bearer).

Tony D.
March 10, 2008 6:57 PM

What sigaliris said up there is very important IMO. The service of Forgiveness Vespers is in no way intended to be a substitute for complete honesty and humility in our human interactions. On the contrary: Like almost everything else in an Orthodox Christian's spiritual life, it is intended by the Church to bring us face to face with ourselves as we truly are: self-centered, petty, and all of that. The more we understand how we have fallen short of the commandments of Christ, the harder we should strive all the more to fulfill them. "And when we fall, Thou dost raise us up again."

What's harder for me than asking forgiveness is truly forgiving others, for little things that shouldn't even bother me in the first place. We all have our own inner struggles, eh?

Kevin Divine
March 11, 2008 1:30 AM

St. Anne and St. Joachim are patron saints for one of the parishes in the Diocese of Fargo, that much I know: http://www.stsaaj.org/

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