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Neither McCain nor Obama

Friday March 28, 2008

Categories: Democrats, Republicans

"So what are you thinking about November?" my friend asked me on the walk to Chipotle today.

"Well, Obama's going to be the Democratic nominee, and I can't see voting for him," I said. "He's just too liberal on abortion and other issues that mean a lot to me. It would be extremely difficult for me to vote for him knowing how much the next president is going to be able to reshape the Supreme Court, and knowing that the next president is going to have a Democratic Senate. But I liked what he had to say the other day about re-regulating the financial industry, and I think he'd be the best of the bunch on Iraq. Still, that's not enough."

"Why not McCain? You're a Republican."

"Iraq."

"Iraq?"

"Iraq."

"How big a deal is that for you?"

"Pretty big, but I'm not sure how big. Depends on what happens between now and November, I guess."

"So it sounds like you're in a bad place."

"Well, I don't know about 'bad,' but it's hard to even imagine voting for either one. Still, it's a long time till November. We don't even know how bad the economic situation is going to be by then."

Later on, I thought about this piece from philosopher Alasdair MacIntyre, declaring his withholding his vote from either Bush or Kerry in 2004 as a positive moral act. Excerpt:


When offered a choice between two politically intolerable alternatives, it is important to choose neither. And when that choice is presented in rival arguments and debates that exclude from public consideration any other set of possibilities, it becomes a duty to withdraw from those arguments and debates, so as to resist the imposition of this false choice by those who have arrogated to themselves the power of framing the alternatives. These are propositions which in the abstract may seem to invite easy agreement. But, when they find application to the coming presidential election, they are likely to be rejected out of hand. For it has become an ingrained piece of received wisdom that voting is one mark of a good citizen, not voting a sign of irresponsibility. But the only vote worth casting in November is a vote that no one will be able to cast, a vote against a system that presents one with a choice between Bush's conservatism and Kerry's liberalism, those two partners in ideological debate, both of whom need the other as a target.

Why should we reject both? Not primarily because they give us wrong answers, but because they answer the wrong questions. What then are the right political questions? One of them is: What do we owe our children? And the answer is that we owe them the best chance that we can give them of protection and fostering from the moment of conception onwards. And we can only achieve that if we give them the best chance that we can both of a flourishing family life, in which the work of their parents is fairly and adequately rewarded, and of an education which will enable them to flourish. These two sentences, if fully spelled out, amount to a politics. It is a politics that requires us to be pro-life, not only in doing whatever is most effective in reducing the number of abortions, but also in providing healthcare for expectant mothers, in facilitating adoptions, in providing aid for single-parent families and for grandparents who have taken parental responsibility for their grandchildren. And it is a politics that requires us to make as a minimal economic demand the provision of meaningful work that provides a fair and adequate wage for every working parent, a wage sufficient to keep a family well above the poverty line.

Follow the link and read the whole thing. Does that make sense to you? Today I find it very difficult to imagine voting for a man who would continue this war indefinitely. And I find it all but impossible to imagine voting for a man who has taken the most extreme pro-choice positions imaginable, and whose Supreme Court appointments would undermine in law things I consider fundamentally important. Like everybody else, I'm accustomed to choosing the less bad candidate for the presidency, but this year the stakes are so, so high.

Anybody else caught between these two unacceptable, or nearly unacceptable, choices? If so, how are you reasoning your way through it? (For me, if Clinton not Obama were the nominee, the choice would be even more appalling, though McCain would look more plausible to my eyes.)

Comments
Dolores
April 2, 2008 10:48 AM

I choose Obama because he expresses courage and commitment to give us a chance to reach accross the aisle and bring people together to work on the issues that despartely need attention. I believe the issues of health care, education, our economy will require all of us to put politics aside and put our collective minds together to solve the major issues facing our country and in some instances the world. Excessive compectiveness has helped to produce more chaos than peace and prosperity. It is time for us to talk with,work with, partner with, diverse groups to solve the problems facing us. Even our willingness to do so will at least launch us in the right direction.

Judith
April 10, 2008 4:24 PM

Choice is plainly that; if you do not agree with abortion, then never have one. I support either Democratic candidate over McCain because McCain will continue with Bush's dreadful war policies. Also, I believe we desperately need healthcare for every American and only the Democrats are willing to move in that direction. Finally, let's not confuse with what is present at conception and a full-term child--as a mother of three wonderful daughters and three wonderful grandchildren, I am quite certain that there is a difference and most Americans agree that abortion should remain safe and legal.

John Stewart
June 4, 2008 4:46 AM

This last writer has no idea what it means to be on a slippery slope (i.e., "...let's not confuse with what is present at conception and a full-term child..."). To better think this issue through, please read Aristotle (over and over again); in fact, please read the preeminent philosopher Alasdair MacIntyre (as mentioned earlier in this blog), a neo-Aristotelian.

Sincerely,
A father and graduate student of philosophy.

lily
July 13, 2008 10:59 AM

From the words above, I would say the choice is clear. Obama believes strongly in social changes that would help single parents keep their children, that would help the education of those children, so that after it all fewer abortions would be a result of a mother unable to support another mouth. As for slippery slope: Obama's words are always well thought out, and he shows great insight and ability to cooperate. If the right were to approach the left, with a stronger, but not ultimate, proposal, then reason may be reached where a child of certain development could not be terminated. There is a difference between a newly conceived fetus, and an 8 month fetus. There is a difference in a first and a second term child. At some point there must be an ability to bring in science and articulate just what point can this nation agree that a fetus deserves protection. If you cannot understand my meaning, realize that this matter is a matter of consensus on morality. There is no morality in law that is not a decision based on consensus. Just as a vegan cannot ban the death of the cows for food, because he is not the majority, so also pro-life cannot further their ideals into law without convincing the majority. Nor determine such a perfect anti-abortion method that the completely desperate mother, just learning of her status, would resort to dangerous, self-inflicted practices.

KC
October 8, 2008 11:57 PM

"Later on, I thought about this piece from philosopher Alasdair MacIntyre, declaring his withholding his vote from either Bush or Kerry in 2004 as a positive moral act."

MacIntyre didn't withhold his vote. He cannot vote at all because he is not a U.S. citizen.
He was arguing as a general point that not voting in 2004 is still morally responsible.

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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