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Opening Pandora's box

Tuesday March 25, 2008

Categories: Varia
Let me give you the best tip you'll hear all week, unless you're hooked up with an ace stockbroker. A friend and reader of this blog tipped me off to Pandora.com. It's an online jukebox that creates an Internet "radio...
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jaybird
March 25, 2008 12:26 PM

Sounds pretty much like LastFM, which I just registered for yesterday.

http://www.last.fm/user/jaybird08/

Nicole
March 25, 2008 12:26 PM

You are a little behind the curve, but it is a great site. I use it at work fairly frequently. I have a "Frank Sinatra" playlist, which is really good.

Adam
March 25, 2008 12:28 PM

Thanks Rod! My boss was just telling me the other day that I "worked too hard" and that I needed to "waste more time zoning out at my desk to obscure Grateful Dead tracks" so this works perfectly!

:-)

Peter
March 25, 2008 12:35 PM

It's fairly rocking but they cut off international traffic about a year ago so no more pandora for me.

Anonymous
March 25, 2008 12:36 PM

I've been using Pandora for a while now and absolutely love it. Some of my musical tastes run to the obscure, so after a while I hear the same songs over and over, but the fact that I can hear them at all is awesome.

Mike
March 25, 2008 12:40 PM

I've found that Pandora sometimes gives me too little of what I want and then sometimes gets stuck in something I don't want. I started out listening to an alternative rock song, and somehow from my ratings it determined that I would like ragtime piano tunes. It played one after another in a row, and I kept skipping them until I would not let me skip any more.

I have found that yahoo's launchcast is much more customizable. It's the same kind of thing, but you can actually list multiple bands you enjoy, rather than just one and build a station around them. I haven't used it in a while though, it might've changed.

Melanie
March 25, 2008 12:43 PM

neat-o! Just "invited" my hubby.

Irenaeus
March 25, 2008 12:44 PM

Cool! I typed in "Runrig" (Scottish folk rock) and was really impressed.

TJ
March 25, 2008 1:01 PM

Great website--have used it for months. Pandora also lets you build a station around multiple artists--just create a station and then add artists to it.

paagle
March 25, 2008 1:02 PM

I was listening to Pandora as I read your post! My Townes Van Zandt + Bob Dylan station has provided me many hrs of happy listening.

Duncan MacIntyre
March 25, 2008 1:35 PM

While I like Pandroa, I prefer Slacker. Like Pandora, Slacker plays mixes based on artist preferences but whereas the mixes of Pandora are keyed to musicological similarity as determined by the Music Genome Project rubric, the mixes on Slacker are key to databases of 30 compatible artists for each artist preference, as determined by a staff of musicians and music critics. So, for example, if you create a mix based on a preference for, say, R.E.M., you get R.E.M. plus 30 other artists compatible with R.E.M. -- and you can then customize the resulting mix by adding and subtracting artists from the database. You can also create your own databases of artists as the basis for mixes of your own. Right now, I'm having more fun than I should have for free working on a mix of 1950's rock and roll and rhythm and blues.

Karen
March 25, 2008 1:37 PM

Pandora is great, but you gotta give it feedback. Skipping tracks doesn't work. If you hit a song you don't like, then let it know you don't like it. It even gives you options, like.. "Sure, I like the song, but don't play it as much" or "Don't play this one again" or 'Don't play stuff LIKE this again" *laugh*

Yeah, sometimes it guesses the wrong quality about the song that you like, but the idea is also that sometimes you don't realize why you like that style of music, and you can find out you like something you've never ever listened to in the process.

But.. for it to really learn your likes, feedback is the key.

Kevin Divine
March 25, 2008 2:12 PM

Pandora rocks.

I will, however, agree that you have to give it feedback to really fine tune what you're listening to.

Also, when you search for Christmas music, type in the name of the song followed by (holiday), don't forget the parentheses.

Kit Stolz
March 25, 2008 2:56 PM

Pandora is an amazing service. Give it a few hints, and it will dig out really interesting music you might well like but have never heard of.

Still, I prefer listening to someone who knows music and maybe doesn't always share my tastes -- I might learn something truly new. Most of the new music I buy these days comes from those sort of stations, such as "Cafe LA" with the great Tom Schnabel (who helped bring us the Buena Vista Social Club and Djivan Gasparyan, among others) and Radio Paradise, which opened my ears to all sorts of delightful but little-known talents, including Augie March, Kathleen Edwards, and Andrew Bird.

Nick the Greek
March 25, 2008 3:31 PM

I've been listening to Pandora for a while now. With judicious use of the thumbs up and thumbs down feature, it will eventually learn your tastes for the most part (though it does keep trying to play me house music, for some reason, no matter how many house tracks I give the thumbs down to).

Mark
March 25, 2008 3:40 PM

Been using it for years; love it!

Tony D.
March 25, 2008 5:38 PM

Cool. I typed "Josquin Des Prez" and am now being serenaded with copious amounts of Renaissance polyphony. Bliss.

Brian
March 25, 2008 8:41 PM

Rod,

Lost Highway Records used to have a Juke Box (it opened in a flash screen made to look like an old-time Juke Box) and played all the artists records on their label (Willy Nelson, Ryan Adams, Cash, Lyle Lovett, Old 97's and all other kinds of great artists.

They got rid of it last time I was there, though they continually play there artists and you can scroll through until you find something you like.

Thanks for sharing Pandora.

dianna Germany
March 26, 2008 11:58 AM

WOW - this is the coolest thing I have seen on the web in quite a while. Thanks!

stephen
March 26, 2008 12:13 PM

I love it, have used it for over a year now.

Tony D.
March 26, 2008 12:20 PM

Update/Bummer: Pandora has never heard of Arvo Part or John Tavener.

jason
March 26, 2008 1:02 PM

actually, I have a Arvo Part station on pandora. You have to do a search with the word "Part" and not the whole name "Arvo part".

Tony D.
March 26, 2008 8:26 PM

Weird. I'll try it. Thanks.

Tony D.
March 26, 2008 8:30 PM

It worked; I found Tavener, too, by leaving off his first name. Go figure. Thanks for the tip.

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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