As promised (or threatened, depending on your point of view), I turned last week's "chief of sinners" blog entry into a Dallas Morning News column. I basically rewrote it for a more secular audience. I've gotten some really good feedback on it, but also some negative response, mostly from people who thought I had lost my moral mind with what one angry reader called "white guilt."
If I had it to write over again, I would have made it more clear than I did that the idea of calling oneself the "chief of sinners" is not to say that one has no right to pass any kind of judgment on another. That would be what I described in the column as taking "license for moral idiocy."
We all have to make judgments of all kinds every day just to get through life. It is right and proper to listen to what Jeremiah Wright (and Barack Obama, and John McCain, and your own mama) has to say, weigh it against evidence, logic and principle, and pass judgment on it. We are required to pass political judgment (at least) on the Rev. Wright's message, and even his worth as a Christian leader. Most everybody who has followed this controversy has done so, and obviously people have taken different sides. Some have judged him negatively, others positively. Most all have rendered a judgment of some sort.
We are permitted to say "that man is wrong;" we are permitted to say "don't listen to that man, because he teaches false or malicious things." What we Christians believe we are not are not permitted to say is "...and therefore he's going to hell." Because how do we know how God will ultimately weigh his sins against everything else? Only God has the sufficient knowledge to pass ultimate judgment on the disposition of his soul.
I've mentioned before the French proverb, "To understand all is to forgive all." It is a caution against taking empathy too far. It is hard to know how much to temper justice with mercy in any given situation. It calls for wisdom and discernment. And for humility in the face of our own limitations.
What I find so frustrating about people who shout "You're being judgmental!" when they encounter a judgment with which they disagree is the failure to recognize that making judgments are a necessary part of our individual and collective moral lives. If Jesus meant that we were never meant to make any judgments ever about others, he didn't live by his own commandment, so narrowly interpreted. Sure, you say, but he was God. Yes, but neither did the Apostles, on evidence of the Bible. St. Paul calls himself the chief of sinners, yet he laid down the law against adulterers, drunkards and other lowlifes. Surely, then, a more nuanced understanding of what it means to pass judgment on another person is required.
To get back to the column, I am certain that Mohammed Atta was a profoundly evil man, and he deserves to be in hell. But I can't say for sure that he is there, or that any particular person is there. I don't have the knowledge to say so, nor do I have the right. Because for all I know, I deserve hell more than he does, because I have been given the saving grace of knowledge of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, who is Jesus Christ. I know him personally, and I know what he requires of me. In that regard, Atta was a miserable pauper. As Scripture says, to whom much is given, much is expected. By that standard, it will not go easy for me on the Day of Judgment.
I know I said I'm sick and tired of the comboxes turning into bitching about whether or not I'm judgmental. I still am. That adds nothing to the conversation. Of course I'm judgmental -- but I hope I'm judgmental in the right way, and am growing less judgmental in the sinful way. But that's me. I would welcome a discussion about the concept of judgment, particularly in a Christian context. Let's keep it from getting personal below, and talk about the idea.

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"A loving wife will have as much patience as it takes for the faults and flaws of her husband. Even if he never changes, over a whole lifetime, she will still bear with him kindly and cherish the hope that someday he will live up to the best that is in him. Certainly, many people today would excuse her for giving up on him, but you wouldn’t, would you? Would you not feel that after all, there must have been something lacking in her love if she could finally turn her back on its imperfect object?"
Unless, of course, the erring husband in question was a Democratic politician.
Amen, Pat! I like that very much. I believe if the same amount of energy and faith had been put into living out the good news brought by Jesus as has been put into defining and distinguishing doctrines . . . well, again, we'd be having a very different discussion. : )
Sig, what would that different discussion be like?
Pat
"I would expect a God of infinite power and love to have infinite patience and to take infinite pains [before sending us to an eternal hell]." sig
His patience is immeasurably, inconceivably great. Even though we (sinful creatures) disobey and mock Him (our crucified Creator), His patience endures--until we have no life (spiritual and earthly) left in us.
Infinite pains? How many times must He be crucified for you?
"Here in this life, a loving mother will spend as much time and patience as it takes to teach her child to tie his shoes. There will never come a point at which she smacks him upside the head and shouts, 'That’s it! You've had your chance!'" sig
You would expect her stop trying after the child dies, because then it doesn't matter. It's the same with God and us. If we do not live as He commands while we have life to do it, what good is it to want to live according to His will when we no longer have a life to do it with? Since we no longer have a will or a life to live as He commands, to what would He apply His infinite patience?
How many times do you think His infinite patience should bring us back to life until we lived as He commands? Is that what you mean by infinite patience? Some believe in something close to that; very convenient, huh?
Sorry, sig, except for my good friend Franklin, we only live once.
sig, you probably know this stuff better than I do, but some others may not be familiar with the sources of the Catholic concept of an eternal hell. Here are some:
Matthew 25:46 And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
2Pet.2:4 For if God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell...
Mark.9:43 And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire.
Me: "That's not enough education for us? Please cut the BS--you know that other factors mentioned in this thread are at play. Ignorance is not one of them."
You: "Doesn't “BS” imply insincerity on my part?"
Not exactly. It means I know your intelligence pales before no one on this board and that you know all the eternal damnation arguments far better even than 90% of most practicing Catholics, so why would you ask something like this: "If we have been mistaken in our attitude, why would a kind, all-loving, all-merciful god not educate us, rather than losing all patience and stuffing us into the incinerator?"?
And it means that I know that you know that one's mistaken attitude is pre-dispositive of the question of whether one merits eternal hell from a merciful, just and loving God, yet you chose to condition the question with it.
It's not insincerity; it's more like I believe you're playing cat and mouse. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
"How much education do I need, Cleveland? As much as it takes. I would expect a God of infinite power and love to have infinite patience and to take infinite pains."
He does; he has.
But sig, what is God to do for those who reject him for themselves? Is he to destroy their free will and force them into union with Him that they have rejected of their on accord?
God created us to love Him. For that love to have meaning, it must be freely chosen by the creature. If it can be freely chosen, it can likewise be freely denied. That denial is the problem.
God didn't creat Hell. He created creatures who could create it on their own by rejecting him.
Bear in mind, this is not about doctrine so much as it is about ontological realities. If one chooses to be seperated from God, that separation will exist. But God never denies His mercy, or His attempts to woo each and every one of us. And while he has eternity in which to do this, at some point we must choose.
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