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Monday April 14, 2008

I've been at the hospital most of the day with Matthew as he underwent a lengthy diagnostic procedure. No fun for anybody. The boy was well taken care of by a nice nurse who, as it turns out, is a traditionalist Anglican and an avid follower of TEC controversies. I invited him to visit this blog. Nurse R. from Fort Worth, I offer without comment this from Episcopal Divinity School spring course catalog. Enjoy the utter and complete used-to-be-disgusted, now-I-try-to-be-amused insanity (OK, that was comment)!:

T 3150 Queer Incarnation

Jordan

7:00-9:00 pm

The incarnation is sometimes presented as an arithmetic problem: What do you get when you add some divinity to a human body? But thinking about incarnation has to start much further back, in the realization that accounts of Jesus show us how little we understand about either divinity or bodies, much less about how bodies can show, act, and becomes divine. Just here and theology of the incarnation can learn from works of queer theory and the writings of queer thinkers. The body of Jesus- despised, de-sexed, and yet miraculously distributed- invites us to an exchange of bodies along the margins of human power and its certainties. We will think about the queerness of Jesus' body with the help of some traditional texts on incarnation and passion (Athanasius, Bonaventure, Aquinas, Julian) and much more recent work on gender performance, bodily transition or transformation, and the rituals of camp.

Er, wow.

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Ostrea
April 15, 2008 11:09 PM

My decision to leave the Episcopal church looks better every day with stuff like this.

godisaheretic
April 16, 2008 12:18 AM

"... explore, debate, struggle with crazy ideas..." amen!
that's what should be done with such ideas...
like Trinity and Incarnation...
I see that "struggle" all the time...
especially with these kinds of ancient superstitions...
some persons come to find them to be mismatches with Reality...
and are freed from the struggle...
but even after, it's possible to retain the spiritual value of the Myths...
other persons will keep a literal hold on the Myths for a lifetime...
which shows the great power of Myth...
oh well... round and round... it goes...
details about God... nobody knows...

faith hope love joy peace to all who disagree...
Forgive God...

Reaganite in NYC
April 16, 2008 9:13 AM

"toro toro" writes: "To properly understand the importance of degradation and debasement in Christ's divine yet impoverished birth, and humiliating yet glorious and transcendent death, *surely* we have to pay attention to theories and literatures of degradation, debasement, and humiliation, if only to refute them."

Do we REALLY "have to pay attention" to these theories? Do you think God pays attention to this filth? He's probably rolling his eyes and feeling sorry for the chumps who paid good money to attend this school. And for the Episcopalian in the pew who'll have to endure these graduates and their theological fads/novelties which they'll return to every Sunday in a lifetime of sermons.

aaron
April 16, 2008 5:17 PM

Be optimistic, perhaps the Prof/Priest teaching Queer Incarnation is setting the Episcopal church up for its own Alan Sokal Social Text affair

http://www.physics.nyu.edu/sokal/

Robert
June 12, 2008 10:41 PM

John 13:35
35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

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