Barack Obama has broken David Brooks's heart, it seems, by revealing himself to be, deep down, an Ivy League latte liberal. Excerpt: A few months ago, Obama was riding his talents. Clinton has ground him down, and we are now...
What strikes me about the coach's stance with regard to Obama is how different it is from Obama's stance with regard to the coach and people like him.
The coach is willing to acknowledge the shortcomings of people like himself and to consider respectfully the points of view of those who are not like him, to consider their points of view as if they might in fact have some legitimacy.
So far, Obama has shown no capacity to do that in turn.
There is no reciprocity involved in his call for others -- the key word here being *others* -- to overcome their self-involvement and their self-regard, for the greater good.
Middle-Americans, working-class whites, small-town-hunters-who-go-to-church, Kansans, Pennsylvanians, et. al. must repent for their manifold sins.
But Brother Superior must not -- indeed *cannot* -- for he himself has *not* sinned, nor has anyone among the choir he preaches to.
To put it mildly, this doesn't seem to me like a political -- let alone a *moral* -- stance that's conducive to "hope" or to "change."
We are all les miserables now.
Anonymous
April 18, 2008 9:22 AM
Yes, we're all Miserabilists now, or will be come fall.
Good. For only the damned can be saved.
David W L
April 18, 2008 9:27 AM
Sorry the 9:22 AM post was by me.
David W L
yelladawgNC
April 18, 2008 9:40 AM
Obama is the only presidential candidate who spoke out against invading Iraq and foresaw what the Pentagon's own National Defense University calls "a major debacle" a report released yesterday. (Why don't you do a post on THAT?)
So Obama can drink all the lattes he wants; he was right then, and he's right now, and he talks sense to the American people and they hear and believe him. He's far from perfect, but he's smart and he'll go into office the least beholden to special interests of any president in recent memory.
As for Brooks and his ilk, anyone who voted for Bush twice has no credibility left. Why should anyone pay them (you?) the slightest attention?
Mhoram
April 18, 2008 9:45 AM
Comments like Brooks's annoy me, to be honest. He's a major political journalist; it's his JOB to suss out the candidates and figure out who they really are behind the carefully constructed campaign facades. And he's just now figuring out that Obama is a standard "latte liberal," and all that "change" stuff was just talk? He could have read Obama's memoirs when the candidate first came on the scene over a year ago, like Sailer did, and been on top of this revelation all along. If a random voter like me could make time to skim Obama's book, isn't that the least we should expect from people who make a living telling us what to think about him in major newspapers?
Anonymous
April 18, 2008 9:54 AM
So, how is this any different than 1992, or 1996, or 2000, or 2004? Just because people's hopes and expectations and enthusiasm were higher (i.e., they were less miserable about the choices) doesn't mean things actually got better or worse than we'll see happen after this election is over.
IOW, I'm not miserable, because the future is dependent on so many more things than the current crop of Presidential candidates. Events might make today's Dream Candidate look like a nightmare a year from now.
Lord Karth
April 18, 2008 9:55 AM
"Conventional Republicans and Democrats": that's a good way to put it, Rod---although why not just refer to them as American National Socialists and have done with it ? It is, after all, what they are.
It seems to me that the 2008 election is going to be all about who can make the most reassuring noises to the populace while preserving the Provider State for as long as possible. Obama gets to make his "civil rights" noises, while McCain gets to sound off about how great this country still is, regardless of what the actual economic conditions we face really are. As for Hillary, she gets to sound off about how she is entitled to the White House, has worked hard to get to the White House and dam-ed if anyone is going to deprive her of the White House.
As long as we're focussed on which of these insincere whiners and mountebanks is going to annoy the voting public the least, no one has to think---and if "think" isn't the dirtiest word in American society and politics today, I'd be hard-pressed to find a dirtier--about the entitlements crash coming, or the Mexican invasion, or the collapse of the family.
It would all be quite funny, if there weren't real lives at stake. But I'll laugh anyway. After all, in this world, real value for one's entertainment dollar is hard to come by.
Your servant,
Lord Karth
Comic Book Guy
April 18, 2008 9:57 AM
If you're quoting Mr Burns' grandfather in "Last Exit to Springfield", the word is "flimshaw", not "blimshaw".
Rod Dreher
April 18, 2008 10:12 AM
Oh dang, you're right. Never trust memory. Correction made.
Sheilagh
April 18, 2008 10:26 AM
37!!!
Anonymous
April 18, 2008 10:28 AM
Many bloggers have been saying since January that Barack Obama was deludedly being perceived by many as a "magical negro" (see Wikipedia), and all that's happened is that the facade has fallen off. He's a politician of the less-than-admirable kind, nothing more, nothing less.
Joel
April 18, 2008 10:59 AM
Nonetheless, McCain will be easy to defeat. All the opponent needs to do is link McCain to President Bush. I can already picture the campaign ads that point out how many times Senator McCain has voted for things that Bush wanted, explain how frequently McCain has voiced support for Bush’s policies, show pictures of McCain and Bush appearing together shaking hands or whatnot. McCain will be lucky to win three states.
Get used to saying "President Obama."
Eric W
April 18, 2008 11:20 AM
Joel:
Your conclusion is based on the assumption that an election-swaying number of people are as upset with Bush as the media have portrayed people as being and/or that they would be happier with Obama (or Clinton) than with Bush 2.5 or Bush 3.0.
I think your assumption may be invalid, and I don't think James Dobson is going to persuade significant numbers of people to not vote for McCain.
Steve
April 18, 2008 11:47 AM
Don't underestimate McCain's ability to use the media. There are no conflict of interest laws for journalists. He exploits this very well. He clearly has little interest in topics not related to foreign relations. It will be very important to look carefully at whom McCain chooses for economic advisers. Besides McCain's natural ability with the press the talk radio folks are incredibly effective at generating a lot of heat towards personal traits of the Democratic candidates. They are turning on the elitist campaign right now. Somehow the Democrats are ineffective at pointing out how elitist the Republican candidates are. My wife thinks this is because calling a Republican candidate elitist is like calling the Pope Catholic.
I remain amazed that any reasonable person saw Obama as more than a politician. He brings a different background and some different attitudes but remains a politician. For a Dem he seems less inclined to go negative and he is much more articulate (or pays more attention to his advisers) on national defense than most Dem candidates I have heard.
Steve
Charles Cosimano
April 18, 2008 12:09 PM
There is not one red state that Obama will turn blue, it's simple demographics. And, as the electoral college numbers will not change until the 2012 election, it is impossible for Obama to win.
In any event, Obama's followers give the Republicans a campaign ad (if they have the brains to use it) that would destroy him. It would only be run once, it would only need to be and then the media and youtube would run it forever. The ad starts with footage of a Nazi party march, something out of Triumph of Will, and ends with, instead of Hitler, Obama. And the voiceover "This is what movements bring."
mdavid
April 18, 2008 12:22 PM
Mhoram, [Brooks] could have read Obama's memoirs when the candidate first came on the scene over a year ago, like Sailer did, and been on top of this revelation all along.
Amen. It's breathtaking how ignorant Brooks pretends to be.
He is a smart, experienced guy, so there is zero chance he doesn't know the truth. He merely won't write about it, because it could get him in PC trouble. Safer just to slum for the NYT.
This is why Obama can write a dang book plumb full of his racial angst against whites and even the conservative media dare not touch it. The media is so far gone, they actually believe their own lies now.
Rod Dreher
April 18, 2008 12:57 PM
Amen. It's breathtaking how ignorant Brooks pretends to be. He is a smart, experienced guy, so there is zero chance he doesn't know the truth. He merely won't write about it, because it could get him in PC trouble. Safer just to slum for the NYT.
You're way overthinking this. I don't know Brooks, but you assume a level of omniscience that no reporter, and no human being, can have. Is it possible that Brooks simply didn't see what was there in Obama because he didn't want to see? We are all subject to selective interpretation. Believe me, David Brooks could work for whoever he wants to; he doesn't have to please anybody at the NYT.
Joe
April 18, 2008 1:27 PM
"Amen. It's breathtaking how ignorant Brooks pretends to be. He is a smart, experienced guy, so there is zero chance he doesn't know the truth. He merely won't write about it, because it could get him in PC trouble. Safer just to slum for the NYT."
Perhaps Brooks just wanted to believe Obama was what he said he was and appeared to be last year, most people did.
Unfortunately thanks to what he's said since has defined him as what he appears to be now rather than what he says he is.
Do I think he is a bigot or racist? I don't think so. Does he hate America? I don't think so. Does he actually believe the hate filled Black liberation Theology? I hope not.
The thing that bothers most people (and me) is that he appears to feel so comfortable around people that feel that way. That the people that he associates with are filled with hate, bigots, terroists, racists and do hate America.
Anonymous
April 18, 2008 2:22 PM
Farrakan.
Nation of Islam.
White people were created from monkeys by an evil scientist.
Awarded/recognized by TUCC.
'Nuf said.
pyrrho
April 18, 2008 2:38 PM
"Amen. It's breathtaking how ignorant Brooks pretends to be. He is a smart, experienced guy, so there is zero chance he doesn't know the truth. He merely won't write about it, because it could get him in PC trouble. Safer just to slum for the NYT."
Could this have a simpler explanation? It seems to me the Republicans are keeping their powder dry for the general election campaign.
Franklin Evans
April 18, 2008 3:11 PM
It seems to me that the 2008 election is going to be all about who can make the most reassuring noises to the populace while preserving the Provider State for as long as possible.
...and this is different, how, from the last 50 years (or more)?
bob lachman
April 18, 2008 3:14 PM
Jesus was angry at the religious "leaders" who had sold out the common people so as to retain their positions of wealth, power and notoriety. They liked the best seats at the table of life. Right, left or middle people, religious or not, do the same today. Looking to news commentators, politicians and religious leaders for truth and salvation of any sort is like looking for dinner in a garbage can. We the people are desperate for some hope that the nation can be become a nation that lives up to its hype of one nation under god and liberty and justice for all, but we are deceiving ourselves. Understandably since most of us commoners haven't a prayer of escaping when the empire collapses. Just look at how poorly our nation responded to 9/11 and Katrina. Fear mongering, revenge and ruinous war on the one hand and neglectful inaction on the other. If something really terrible happened I and many of us think in our hearts that our crooked-talking fat cat leaders would simply abandon ship for some foreign shore with their millions/billions leaving us like the katrina victims to fend for ourselves. The best bet we have is to forget about the election and get to know our neighbors so that we might have some sort of local support system when our crisis, personal or societal comes.
mdavid
April 18, 2008 3:32 PM
Rod and Joe,
Mhoram said it best: [Brooks] could have read Obama's memoirs when the candidate first came on the scene over a year ago, like Sailer did, and been on top of this revelation all along.
This is hardly a case of "he just wanted to believe" or "assuming a level of omniscience." Those books have been out for years. What is this, rocket science? What kind of national political columnist wouldn't examine the books of the biggest political news in decades?
I wouldn't even consider writing an in-depth column about Obama for national consumption unless I at least skimmed those books, and I would bet a serious amount of cash that Brooks has done so, and he knows the truth about Obama. Besides, I know Brooks knows because he reads Sailer (he must, because he copies him from time to time). Heck, I've also read Brooks' books, and I assure you that guy is plenty smart and knows how to read between the lines.
The truth: at the Times, Brooks writes for a select audience who don't want their nice little pretend latte world tainted with too much reality. That's what Brooks is paid to do. He does it well. If you want the truth, just read Sailer.
Jillian
April 18, 2008 4:49 PM
For some reason the Survey USA polling out yesterday has Clinton beating McCain, and McCain beating Obama. I wouldn't schedule a Republican victory party just yet.
Ben
April 18, 2008 5:32 PM
Gimme a break, Rod. You probably wrote this while you were getting a manicure.
Joe
April 18, 2008 6:30 PM
mdavid
"and I would bet a serious amount of cash that Brooks has done so, and he knows the truth about Obama."
What do you consider the truth about Obama?
mdavid
April 18, 2008 9:52 PM
Joe, What do you consider the truth about Obama
I'm still quoting Mhoram, that Obama is a standard "latte liberal," and all that "change" stuff was just talk.
But I would add: he is not somebody who will bring people together on the race issue; in fact, just the opposite. Read Sailer; he's got all the quotes that really give insight into how Obama thinks.
Had the media done its job and dared to tell the truth, Obama would have never been nominated. But everyone was either dazed by hope or afraid of being called a racist.
Reader John
April 19, 2008 7:18 AM
As so often happens, Peggy Noonan's ear for nuance is best. The problem is not that Obama despises, but that his inner anthropologist is condescendingly analyzing normal people like an exotic and insular tribe on the verge of extinction.
David
April 19, 2008 9:37 AM
For the record, I believe the first pundit to raise the inner anthropologist meme was not Noonan, but the pseudonymous Spengler that Rod often refers to. It is now a common-place of the election commentary.
I believe this was Spengler's first entry on this meme:
"But I would add: he is not somebody who will bring people together on the race issue; in fact, just the opposite."
Having been a member of a church that advocates Black Liberation Theology for 20 years, I would think not. Racism squared.
Thanks
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Great post, Rod.
What strikes me about the coach's stance with regard to Obama is how different it is from Obama's stance with regard to the coach and people like him.
The coach is willing to acknowledge the shortcomings of people like himself and to consider respectfully the points of view of those who are not like him, to consider their points of view as if they might in fact have some legitimacy.
So far, Obama has shown no capacity to do that in turn.
There is no reciprocity involved in his call for others -- the key word here being *others* -- to overcome their self-involvement and their self-regard, for the greater good.
Middle-Americans, working-class whites, small-town-hunters-who-go-to-church, Kansans, Pennsylvanians, et. al. must repent for their manifold sins.
But Brother Superior must not -- indeed *cannot* -- for he himself has *not* sinned, nor has anyone among the choir he preaches to.
To put it mildly, this doesn't seem to me like a political -- let alone a *moral* -- stance that's conducive to "hope" or to "change."
We are all les miserables now.
Yes, we're all Miserabilists now, or will be come fall.
Good. For only the damned can be saved.
Sorry the 9:22 AM post was by me.
David W L
Obama is the only presidential candidate who spoke out against invading Iraq and foresaw what the Pentagon's own National Defense University calls "a major debacle" a report released yesterday. (Why don't you do a post on THAT?)
So Obama can drink all the lattes he wants; he was right then, and he's right now, and he talks sense to the American people and they hear and believe him. He's far from perfect, but he's smart and he'll go into office the least beholden to special interests of any president in recent memory.
As for Brooks and his ilk, anyone who voted for Bush twice has no credibility left. Why should anyone pay them (you?) the slightest attention?
Comments like Brooks's annoy me, to be honest. He's a major political journalist; it's his JOB to suss out the candidates and figure out who they really are behind the carefully constructed campaign facades. And he's just now figuring out that Obama is a standard "latte liberal," and all that "change" stuff was just talk? He could have read Obama's memoirs when the candidate first came on the scene over a year ago, like Sailer did, and been on top of this revelation all along. If a random voter like me could make time to skim Obama's book, isn't that the least we should expect from people who make a living telling us what to think about him in major newspapers?
So, how is this any different than 1992, or 1996, or 2000, or 2004? Just because people's hopes and expectations and enthusiasm were higher (i.e., they were less miserable about the choices) doesn't mean things actually got better or worse than we'll see happen after this election is over.
IOW, I'm not miserable, because the future is dependent on so many more things than the current crop of Presidential candidates. Events might make today's Dream Candidate look like a nightmare a year from now.
"Conventional Republicans and Democrats": that's a good way to put it, Rod---although why not just refer to them as American National Socialists and have done with it ? It is, after all, what they are.
It seems to me that the 2008 election is going to be all about who can make the most reassuring noises to the populace while preserving the Provider State for as long as possible. Obama gets to make his "civil rights" noises, while McCain gets to sound off about how great this country still is, regardless of what the actual economic conditions we face really are. As for Hillary, she gets to sound off about how she is entitled to the White House, has worked hard to get to the White House and dam-ed if anyone is going to deprive her of the White House.
As long as we're focussed on which of these insincere whiners and mountebanks is going to annoy the voting public the least, no one has to think---and if "think" isn't the dirtiest word in American society and politics today, I'd be hard-pressed to find a dirtier--about the entitlements crash coming, or the Mexican invasion, or the collapse of the family.
It would all be quite funny, if there weren't real lives at stake. But I'll laugh anyway. After all, in this world, real value for one's entertainment dollar is hard to come by.
Your servant,
Lord Karth
If you're quoting Mr Burns' grandfather in "Last Exit to Springfield", the word is "flimshaw", not "blimshaw".
Oh dang, you're right. Never trust memory. Correction made.
37!!!
Many bloggers have been saying since January that Barack Obama was deludedly being perceived by many as a "magical negro" (see Wikipedia), and all that's happened is that the facade has fallen off. He's a politician of the less-than-admirable kind, nothing more, nothing less.
Nonetheless, McCain will be easy to defeat. All the opponent needs to do is link McCain to President Bush. I can already picture the campaign ads that point out how many times Senator McCain has voted for things that Bush wanted, explain how frequently McCain has voiced support for Bush’s policies, show pictures of McCain and Bush appearing together shaking hands or whatnot. McCain will be lucky to win three states.
Get used to saying "President Obama."
Joel:
Your conclusion is based on the assumption that an election-swaying number of people are as upset with Bush as the media have portrayed people as being and/or that they would be happier with Obama (or Clinton) than with Bush 2.5 or Bush 3.0.
I think your assumption may be invalid, and I don't think James Dobson is going to persuade significant numbers of people to not vote for McCain.
Don't underestimate McCain's ability to use the media. There are no conflict of interest laws for journalists. He exploits this very well. He clearly has little interest in topics not related to foreign relations. It will be very important to look carefully at whom McCain chooses for economic advisers. Besides McCain's natural ability with the press the talk radio folks are incredibly effective at generating a lot of heat towards personal traits of the Democratic candidates. They are turning on the elitist campaign right now. Somehow the Democrats are ineffective at pointing out how elitist the Republican candidates are. My wife thinks this is because calling a Republican candidate elitist is like calling the Pope Catholic.
I remain amazed that any reasonable person saw Obama as more than a politician. He brings a different background and some different attitudes but remains a politician. For a Dem he seems less inclined to go negative and he is much more articulate (or pays more attention to his advisers) on national defense than most Dem candidates I have heard.
Steve
There is not one red state that Obama will turn blue, it's simple demographics. And, as the electoral college numbers will not change until the 2012 election, it is impossible for Obama to win.
In any event, Obama's followers give the Republicans a campaign ad (if they have the brains to use it) that would destroy him. It would only be run once, it would only need to be and then the media and youtube would run it forever. The ad starts with footage of a Nazi party march, something out of Triumph of Will, and ends with, instead of Hitler, Obama. And the voiceover "This is what movements bring."
Mhoram, [Brooks] could have read Obama's memoirs when the candidate first came on the scene over a year ago, like Sailer did, and been on top of this revelation all along.
Amen. It's breathtaking how ignorant Brooks pretends to be.
He is a smart, experienced guy, so there is zero chance he doesn't know the truth. He merely won't write about it, because it could get him in PC trouble. Safer just to slum for the NYT.
This is why Obama can write a dang book plumb full of his racial angst against whites and even the conservative media dare not touch it. The media is so far gone, they actually believe their own lies now.
Amen. It's breathtaking how ignorant Brooks pretends to be. He is a smart, experienced guy, so there is zero chance he doesn't know the truth. He merely won't write about it, because it could get him in PC trouble. Safer just to slum for the NYT.
You're way overthinking this. I don't know Brooks, but you assume a level of omniscience that no reporter, and no human being, can have. Is it possible that Brooks simply didn't see what was there in Obama because he didn't want to see? We are all subject to selective interpretation. Believe me, David Brooks could work for whoever he wants to; he doesn't have to please anybody at the NYT.
"Amen. It's breathtaking how ignorant Brooks pretends to be. He is a smart, experienced guy, so there is zero chance he doesn't know the truth. He merely won't write about it, because it could get him in PC trouble. Safer just to slum for the NYT."
Perhaps Brooks just wanted to believe Obama was what he said he was and appeared to be last year, most people did.
Unfortunately thanks to what he's said since has defined him as what he appears to be now rather than what he says he is.
Do I think he is a bigot or racist? I don't think so. Does he hate America? I don't think so. Does he actually believe the hate filled Black liberation Theology? I hope not.
The thing that bothers most people (and me) is that he appears to feel so comfortable around people that feel that way. That the people that he associates with are filled with hate, bigots, terroists, racists and do hate America.
Farrakan.
Nation of Islam.
White people were created from monkeys by an evil scientist.
Awarded/recognized by TUCC.
'Nuf said.
"Amen. It's breathtaking how ignorant Brooks pretends to be. He is a smart, experienced guy, so there is zero chance he doesn't know the truth. He merely won't write about it, because it could get him in PC trouble. Safer just to slum for the NYT."
Could this have a simpler explanation? It seems to me the Republicans are keeping their powder dry for the general election campaign.
It seems to me that the 2008 election is going to be all about who can make the most reassuring noises to the populace while preserving the Provider State for as long as possible.
...and this is different, how, from the last 50 years (or more)?
Jesus was angry at the religious "leaders" who had sold out the common people so as to retain their positions of wealth, power and notoriety. They liked the best seats at the table of life. Right, left or middle people, religious or not, do the same today. Looking to news commentators, politicians and religious leaders for truth and salvation of any sort is like looking for dinner in a garbage can. We the people are desperate for some hope that the nation can be become a nation that lives up to its hype of one nation under god and liberty and justice for all, but we are deceiving ourselves. Understandably since most of us commoners haven't a prayer of escaping when the empire collapses. Just look at how poorly our nation responded to 9/11 and Katrina. Fear mongering, revenge and ruinous war on the one hand and neglectful inaction on the other. If something really terrible happened I and many of us think in our hearts that our crooked-talking fat cat leaders would simply abandon ship for some foreign shore with their millions/billions leaving us like the katrina victims to fend for ourselves. The best bet we have is to forget about the election and get to know our neighbors so that we might have some sort of local support system when our crisis, personal or societal comes.
Rod and Joe,
Mhoram said it best: [Brooks] could have read Obama's memoirs when the candidate first came on the scene over a year ago, like Sailer did, and been on top of this revelation all along.
This is hardly a case of "he just wanted to believe" or "assuming a level of omniscience." Those books have been out for years. What is this, rocket science? What kind of national political columnist wouldn't examine the books of the biggest political news in decades?
I wouldn't even consider writing an in-depth column about Obama for national consumption unless I at least skimmed those books, and I would bet a serious amount of cash that Brooks has done so, and he knows the truth about Obama. Besides, I know Brooks knows because he reads Sailer (he must, because he copies him from time to time). Heck, I've also read Brooks' books, and I assure you that guy is plenty smart and knows how to read between the lines.
The truth: at the Times, Brooks writes for a select audience who don't want their nice little pretend latte world tainted with too much reality. That's what Brooks is paid to do. He does it well. If you want the truth, just read Sailer.
For some reason the Survey USA polling out yesterday has Clinton beating McCain, and McCain beating Obama. I wouldn't schedule a Republican victory party just yet.
Gimme a break, Rod. You probably wrote this while you were getting a manicure.
mdavid
"and I would bet a serious amount of cash that Brooks has done so, and he knows the truth about Obama."
What do you consider the truth about Obama?
Joe, What do you consider the truth about Obama
I'm still quoting Mhoram, that Obama is a standard "latte liberal," and all that "change" stuff was just talk.
But I would add: he is not somebody who will bring people together on the race issue; in fact, just the opposite. Read Sailer; he's got all the quotes that really give insight into how Obama thinks.
Had the media done its job and dared to tell the truth, Obama would have never been nominated. But everyone was either dazed by hope or afraid of being called a racist.
As so often happens, Peggy Noonan's ear for nuance is best. The problem is not that Obama despises, but that his inner anthropologist is condescendingly analyzing normal people like an exotic and insular tribe on the verge of extinction.
For the record, I believe the first pundit to raise the inner anthropologist meme was not Noonan, but the pseudonymous Spengler that Rod often refers to. It is now a common-place of the election commentary.
I believe this was Spengler's first entry on this meme:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa01.html
(Feb. 26!)
mdavid
Gotcha. I'll find Sailer and see what he says.
"But I would add: he is not somebody who will bring people together on the race issue; in fact, just the opposite."
Having been a member of a church that advocates Black Liberation Theology for 20 years, I would think not. Racism squared.
Thanks
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