Driving toward disaster -- or self-sufficiency
Julie tells me she filled up the minivan yesterday, and for the first time the cost topped $75. Happy Memorial Day motoring, brethren and sistren. James Howard Kunstler writes in today's WaPo that most people misunderstand peak oil theory: It's...
I spent yesterday working with a local goat breeder so that I'll know the ropes before trying to raise my own livestock. My wife has a vegetable garden growing in the backyard.
My husband and I have already started in some small ways after realizing recently that we rely on a truck for all of our food and clothing. It's already been a tremendously liberating experience. I'm learning how to garden, knit, & sew. We're part of a CSA and buy locally raised meats and eggs. In the next three years, we'd like to move to 5 acre mini-farm so we can raise our own pigs, goats, etc.
I'd move out to the country tomorrow if I had the chance (not to mention the money). However, for a young person with limited resources, it's not a realistic short-term goal. I just hope the whole system doesn't collapse before I can achieve my goals.
And what do we, who live in and around the cities, and who don't have much money, do? Die?
Scott R.- Good question. You may want to stock up on angry mob gear (torches, clubs and motorcycle chains seem to be popular in the apocalyptic movies) so that you can swarm out to the country and steal their food. Wearing lots of leather seems to be important also, especially if you want to be the mob leader.
Steve
You know, you can make fun of it, Steve, but that won't solve the problem if things do get that bad. I'm in the same situation as you, Scott, though at least I do have family in the country with land on which I could grow food, if it came to that.
The idea that it can't happen because it is too harrowing to contemplate is illogical. When we lived in NYC, in the days immediately following 9/11 there was a brief scare about the availability of food. All the roads into Manhattan were blocked as a security precaution. It amounted to nothing, in the end, but if the transportation system is seriously strained, cities could be in real trouble, real fast, on food distribution.
I once interviewed a former US Coast Guard commander, whose name escapes me now (he's at the Council on Foreign Relations), and who has testified numerous times before Congress about port security. He says that people don't understand how dependent our economy -- and the world economy is -- on US ports staying open. If a suitcase nuke were to go off in, say, the Port of Los Angeles, the US government would have no choice but to close all the ports until they could install radiation detective devices. The retired commander says that closing our ports for merely two weeks would be devastating to the US economy. We are completely dependent on the worldwide distribution of goods that a slowdown like that would be like a fatal blood clot in an aorta.
Dr. Stephen Flynn -- that's the guy's name. His field is maritime security.
The grown-up thing to do is to start working now to prepare the infrastructure and mechanisms to feed the cities in a time of permanently high fuel costs.
The thing I don't get about the article is why they felt the need to get rid of their TV.
We have a garden, a year's supply of food, water storage and my husband works 2 miles from where we live, so we are in pretty good shape compared to a lot of folks. I want to become a better gardener (thinking of doing the master gardener classes through county extension), am trying to learn more about herbs and natural remedies, and wish we were more energy independent. I am focusing more and more on shopping locally (within city limits of our small town) and now only fill up the van once every 2-3 weeks and I'm walking the kids to and from school more often, but we do have a fairly large house that is not terribly energy efficient. Just gotta take baby steps and keep working at it.
"install radiation detective devices"
Join us once again next week for "Ray Roentgen, Radiation Detective"...this is GBS, the Gamma Broadcasting System [cue organ-cadenza fadeout]...
Like yours, my family always thinks about these things and wonders *when* we'll get around to doing anything about it. Also, like yours, we have family out in the country that owns land that we could go live on, hunt on, grow food on, raise livestock on, etc if worse comes to worse.
Our biggest hang up is actually debt. We feel like we can't make steps towards being self-sufficient while being burdened with $60K in federal student loans. Maybe that's a false notion, but we're under the impression that self-sufficiency and debt don't mix. (As long as you owe money to someone, even for just a mortgage, you're suddenly tied completely to to the economy and your ability to earn a living wage). Our hope is to pay off that debt in 3-5 years instead of 20, then spend a couple years saving up enough cash to buy land in Mexico or Central America where 100 acre working farms with Mennonite neighbors can be had for as little as $50K.
It's a plan, but on its most optimistic side, it's still 5 years away. We're worried that we may not have that long. Then what do we do? What if the economy crashes or slows down in such a way that we're not able to pay off that debt? Then what? Federal student loans NEVER go away. You can't file for bankruptcy to get out of them. You can't defer them forever, even if you try to maintain eternal status as a "student." They just don't go away, and since they're backed by the feds, they can garnish your wages, hold back any tax refunds, steal the money right out of your bank accounts, whatever. So, what do we do then?
In the meantime, we *are* trying to do what we can to be independent even in the suburbs. We only keep one vehicle, and it's debt-free. We buy locally grown produce, meat, and dairy from good producers. We bicycle to places like the grocery store and church with our kids in tow. We're hoping to start a garden in our *front* yard (our back yard is completely shaded) as soon as we can land the free funds to do it. We try to conserve, reduce, reuse, recycle, etc. We homeschool. We're trying to practice some homesteading skills right now -- like sewing, making repairs, composting, doing more with less, etc.
Curiously, the only book I still have from the 70's is the original John Seymours book of self sufficiency. It had marvelous illustrations, and information about doing anything a self sufficient person would ever do. My copy was almost 30 years old, and then it started coming apart. I took it to Kinko's, and had it rebound.
I just never wanted to let go of it. Maybe there was a reason why. I think people are going to find so many such books interesting. I collect books on gardening, woodworking, farming, animal keeping, boatbuilding, etc, from before the 60's, most from before the second world war. This was before the "photography everything" computer generated books of today. They are often filled with wonderful line drawings, and illustrations, along with the fact that people couldn't go to Lowes and get strandboard, etc. They had to know how to do it themselves. The books are often beautifully made. Even book printing was a fine art then. My suggestion is to visit used book stores, flea markets, etc. and spend some time looking. You will be amazed at what useful books there are. Modern books are often are not as useful for the homesteader type of person. They often assume a big shop full of expensive power tools. Most of these did not exist when these books were published.
quote: What would it take to make you and your family commit to a self-sufficient lifestyle to a serious degree?
Well, since you asked, how about some relief from being tied down by all the hours in the daily grind of having to work two jobs, all the while running faster and faster just to stay in the same place? How about a decent pay, so at least one of the bread earners can quit the job and start spending time learning how to butcher hogs and make soap and dig outhouses.
Seriously, Rod, once the system collapses plenty of people are going to die. True, that's not a pleasant thought, but that how the Wheels of History Grind.
Empires rise. Empires fall. One death is a tragedy. Millions are just statistics.
In a sudden catastrophic event, only the government has the resources to help pull things through (nuke major earthquake). In order to deal with these more gradual changes brought on by loss of cheap oil, we will need a collaborative effort between free enterprise and government. Large infrastructure changes can only be achieved by pooled resources. True innovation usually comes from private business. It would certainly help if we had true political leadership, but I think it unlikely that we will have a president willing to tell us we need to conserve again very soon. Carter was lambasted for it. Our government is in debt and private citizens are not saving either.
As individuals the first thing we need to decide is if we still want to try to influence change in our society or just withdraw. Why not vote for people who will make positive changes in how we run our government. Vote for someone who will balance our budget. Someone willing to invest in infrastructure. Someone willing to support research on sustainable energy. Eliminate policies that put such a huge percentage of our wealth in the hands of very few people. There are lots of good reasons to develop a more self-sufficient lifestyle. Learn to raise your own food. Ride a bike when you can or walk. Learn to fix stuff. Learn to live with less stuff. We still need the rest of society to alter its behavior.
We will probably go to coal and get all of the oil we can out of those Canadian sand piles. Those will run out also. At some point our population will have to settle at a number that can be supported by renewable energy sources. Or, we figure out fusion.
What do you do if you live in a city? Get to know your neighbors. When things go south, relationships will be more important than money. And just who, exactly, has nailed you into your city, anyway? Think about how to move out of that large apartment block and into a fixer-upper with a yard. Prices are going to keep dropping, so that move will be easier than it would have at the peak of the housing bubble. Pick a place on or close to a transit node. Use that yard to grow vegetables and fruits. Again, get to know your neighbors. Government is not going to save you; they will have too much to handle. Rugged individualism is about to go out of fashion for the next generation or two, so you might as well get some practice at community now.
One of the biggest problems I see are restrictive local zoning ordinances (on the gov't level) and residential covenants (on the private.) People are denied the use of the land they have by restrictions such as no livestock; no "field crops;" no hanging out laundry.
There are other gov't restrictions that will make things very burdensome for people, such as rules against raw milk sales; rules about selling other farm products such as eggs, newly butchered meat, etc. Many suburbanites have property expansive enough to have at least a few chickens, rabbits, and gardens - IF the residential covenants, city, and state laws would let them be.
So it seems to me that weakening these restrictions is a small step towards being able to survive *where we live* (and where many people have to work.)
Anyone interested in this topic should consider spending a week at the Catholic Homestead Movement in upstate NY. The Fahey's who run the movement offer a week long, hands on homesteading course on their 100 acre homestead in upstate NY. Their next course is July 5-11. It costs $395/family. We've been before, and are planning on returning this year for a refresher. You need not be Catholic to attend.
To register, or for a complete schedule, you may send mail to the Fahey's at:
Catholic Homesteading Movement
Oxford, NY 13830
(no phone or e-mail).
Rod, you forgot one thing in that list of things that will change. It will change the way we plan wars. For the first time in our nation's history we may see our leadership initiate a war for the sole purpose of taking control of the natural resources of another nation. And this time it would be blatant and obvious, not couched in some verbiage about "removing a terrorist from power" or "destroying WMDs." It would be the simple concept of they have it and we need it.
She switched to a diet of locally grown foods near her upstate New York home and lost 70 pounds.
Love this. I think the whole economic crisis thing is overblown, because if everyone did just two things: moving to town and walking/biking to work and eating whole foods (that is, not eating edible food-like substances) we could solve 90% of our problems, including medical.
stefanie One of th biggest problems I see are restrictive local zoning ordinances...[and] rules about selling other farm products such as eggs, newly butchered meat, etc.
I think this is a very prescient observation. We thought a lot about this when we bought an acre within town walking distance with no building codes and few covenants having only five other lots in the formal "neighborhood" (and relatives bought two other of the lots, giving the ability to sort of take the neighborhood covenants over).
But even without this, codes exist because people are rootless, and when people dig roots, keep the place up, and visit next door and give Christmas cookies every year...well, it's amazing what people will overlook :-). Even compost heaps, front yard gardens, etc.
Those living in the city may have the toughest time of it. Cities are not the best places to try to build self-sustaining enclaves. It can be done, but it would take a lot more work and a lot more resources than the average Joe or Jill have. The biggest restraint, as one commenter has already mentioned, is land. There will have to be changes in zoning and land-use ordinances. We may find our neighborhoods resembling something from the middle ages, with livestock and crops growing in plots behind homes, and horses and ox carts traversing the streets.
Cities cannot be self-sufficient. Food must be grown elsewhere, to mention only one factor.
If we come to a point where everyone has to grow their own food, urbanism, invented God alone knows how long ago (probably in Babylonia) will die, along with most of what we know as culture.
This seems a pretty drastic response to an increase in the price of fuel. Maybe everyone should calm down?
If the problem reaches a certain level, the government could just decree that car MPG's must be more than, say, 30 (or pick another number). For most people (especially in cities) there is no reason to run a SUV or pickup. I've heard that autos use something like 60% of the oil in this country? Making the fleet 20% more efficient or more, would be a step in the right direction.
In the meantime, start building more power plants based on something other than oil.
I live less than 2 miles from work. I could walk. We could get rid of the 2nd car. If it comes to that, I'll do it.
And what do we, who live in and around the cities, and who don't have much money, do? Die?
Posted by: Scott R. | May 25, 2008 8:11 PM
Look, I don't want to sound callous, but like Clive said above, yes, in an extreme long-term disruption of normally expected urban services and utilities, a lot of people will likely die.
The grown-up thing to do is to start working now to prepare the infrastructure and mechanisms to feed the cities in a time of permanently high fuel costs.
Posted by: Rod Dreher | May 25, 2008 8:53 PM
Rod, I must respectfully and sincerely disagree with you. The grown-up thing to do is to realize that our cities are not sustainable without cheap fuel, that our national debt makes it very unlikely that required investments in infrastructure will be made, that cities are going to be very dangerous places to be once there is no money to pay for police forces, and that the most sensible thing that you could do would be to move back to your family land in Louisiana.
Of course, I could be wrong. I hope I am, but I don't think I am.
Those living in the city may have the toughest time of it. Cities are not the best places to try to build self-sustaining enclaves. It can be done, but it would take a lot more work and a lot more resources than the average Joe or Jill have. The biggest restraint, as one commenter has already mentioned, is land.
Second biggest restraint: time. How on earth is a working couple to manage growing their own food? Julie visited an urban microfarm in a Dallas suburb last week. She said it's pretty incredible. It's worked full time by the wife in the couple, and her apprentice. Julie said she was admiring the farm, and mentioned to the farmer how she (Julie) wishes she could do that. The farmer said, "You have children" -- meaning, "I don't have kids to raise, which is why I can pour myself into this work."
Old Susan, it's not the case that everybody in a city has to grow their own food or urbanism ceases to exist. That's a straw man. It only has to be possible to grow sufficient food to feed a city, within reasonable transport distance. Cities that are far from arable land will be in trouble. Everybody else will adjust -- after all, how many New Yorkers grew their own food during the Depression? -- but it will be traumatic to make the transition.
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Initially, cities will do well. As the credit crunch improves, folks will bite the bullet, move into a city, walk more, live in a new-urban development, and take public transportation. This will, of course, increase property values in urban areas faster, and cause an even more pronounced deflation in rural property values. I joked with a friend today who lives in a walkable part of Milwaukee: pretty soon you'll be renting your basement out to a newly bankrupted former McMansion owner from Waukesha! (A wealthy suburb to Milwaukee).
Then, after the transportation industry and/or currency collapses, those who waited it out rurally will be sitting pretty, while the economy that suburbanites moved in for collapses, and all hell breaks loose.
My advice:
Join a CSA, learn to hunt and fish and sew, get a gun, horde firewood and precious metals, start gardening, and if you don't already start getting to know your neighbors. I understand the crunch if you commute to a city, but start looking rural for intermediate-term work if you live in a suburb.
Answering Rod's Question:
Do you need an invitation here? Start with a garden. C'mon, get serious.
So why aren't presidential candidates and politicians in general speaking about increased and better mass transit options. Once upon a time for longer trips Americans went by rail. Why aren' they talking about improving existing rail systems (like Amtrak) and expanding it. More metro systems and expanded bus routes in medium or small cities. Having been in Germany last September I was very impressed by their rail system. I live in Michigan and two or three times a year I drive 40 minutes south to Holland and get the train. If the weather is even a little wet or snowy we arrive late at Union Station. Amtrak in this part of the country doesn't own the tracks but leases them from freight lines and they don't keep them up to par the way they should, therefore Amtrak has to give freight trains preference as well as put up with the poor service on the tracks. I live in a small city which has railroads running through it but no passenger service and limited bus service. I think its time for the US to start seriously examining and investing in mass transit in the US.
That said I have started taking baby steps in changing my lifestyle. I just started putting my laundry out on a clothesline in the backyard to dry. I also just saw a newspaper article that said some cities, towns, housing developments are being pressured to change zoning regulations/rules because hanging your laundry outside can get you ticketed! Keep chickens in your yard for food, a cow for milking, forget it, but 100 years ago it was common to have some farm animals living in town. You didn't have a garage but you had a barn.
The farmer said, "You have children" -- meaning, "I don't have kids to raise, which is why I can pour myself into this work."
It could also have meant, put the kids to work
As for what I'm doing
Currently:
I have 64 sq ft of garden planted Square Foot Gardening style and I plant it seasonally (which means the spring greens are getting replaced with tomatoes, cukes, beans later today). I planted several 5-on-1 grafted dwarf fruit trees. Planted several blackberry, raspberry and blueberry plants, as well as cultivate the native blackberries and mulberries. Today I'll be making another garden bed to practice the Three Sisters style of companion planting. For ornamentals I have over 200 lilies planted, which by the way are edible. I have a 1 acre wooded suburban property, so I have to do all my garden on the 1/5 acre of it that gets decent sun. My goal (this year) for food preservation is to learn how to make jams/jellies from fresh fruit, canning tomatoes, and using my crawl space for cold storage of potatoes, garlic, onions, cabbage and squash. I plan to build a solar oven this summer as well as build a cold frame AND successfully grow some plants at least halfway into winter.
Goal 3-5 years:
Build the earth-bermed passive solar house on the 9 acre southern hill exposure tract we bought earlier this year. Get gardens and orchards installed, perhaps small pond. Generate minimum 3kw solar power. Have redundancy built into the house (i.e. have a hand pump installed in water well along with electric pump). Actually, I probably start the orchards before construction even begins so it should be fruiting by the time we move in. Like a reader pointed out above, the land does have a covenant of restrictions which means no livestock or fowl (though we can have up to 4 hobby horses go figure), so I'll be eyeing any of the properties behind me and if they go up for sale I may just have to buy it.
I read Seymour's book back in 2004 and blogged about it then, before I got wise, and stopped blogging altogether. . .but it was fun while it lasted. I'd be curious to see what Julie thinks about this entry. She and I are in a very similar boat: http://blogs.salon.com/0001754/2004/06/22.html
P.S. When I got wise, I stopped reading Kunstler altogether, but that's a different matter. Stop reading Kunstler and start reading a little John O'Donhue. Your life will change immeasurably for the better!
We DID have cities, and I mean real cities (not serfs around a walled fort), before the automobile and the electric light. And the loss of factories and mass communication and travel will even affect the Amish.
(Have you seen any Amish people mining ore for metal or silica for glass lately? Those plow blades and windows and numerous other items come from us, and quite a few other things as well. Lots of Amish shopping at their local farm supply and hardware stores.)
Me? If I'm still where I am? I'm a goner. *shrug* Me and tons of other people, so I won't be alone. I'm working poor. I don't mean I don't have a TON of money. I mean, that whole 'who's nailing you into a city, buy a fixer upper'? Might as well be talking about buying the Hope diamond. That kinda poor. I live in a place where there's no land to farm, and it doesn't matter much anyway.
I live in Minnesota and this apartment? It doesn't have a fireplace. Winter will get me long before not having a harvest in fall.
Likely? I'd be hoping that it doesn't come in fall or winter, and I'd be grabbing a bag, a book on wild foraging and hoof it somewhere warmer.
And it's Aaron--For The Win! Seriously, your place sounds very cool. I'm jealous because that's exactly the kind of thing I used to dream of in my young years, long ago. Back then, of course, all the conservative pundits were scorning such behavior. "What kind of dirty hippie losers would want to retreat from our American society with all its glorious achievements? Only a bunch of self-hating, grimy LEFTISTS would want to go raise goats when they could be wearing a suit and tie to the Young Republican Ox Roast! Such behavior is a self-indulgent dead end!" And so on and so forth. Being the good little conservative tool of the patriarchy that I was back then, I dutifully felt guilty for longing to go raise goats and apple trees instead of being a Productive Member of Society. Who would have guessed that I'd be wrong again, all these years later. I guess it just goes to show you that you shouldn't listen too much to conservative pundits . . . . ; )
If the worst case scenario happens, as described by Rod and some commenters, do I still have to pay back my student loans?
I have a feeling that some things will not change. Maybe I'll die of starvation and be buried in my back yard, but the bills will keep on coming.
*chuckle*
I think we will after the Rapture, much less just a mere economic and social meltdown.
Life is fleeting, all flesh is grass, but student loans?
They're forever.
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John Jeavons' book-- How to Grow More Vegetables *than you ever thought possible on less land than you can imagine-- is a classic and one of the best ever.
mdavid: I think this is a very prescient observation. ... [C]odes exist because people are rootless, and when people dig roots, keep the place up, and visit next door and give Christmas cookies every year...well, it's amazing what people will overlook :-). Even compost heaps, front yard gardens, etc.
RJohnson: The biggest restraint, as one commenter has already mentioned, is land. There will have to be changes in zoning and land-use ordinances. We may find our neighborhoods resembling something from the middle ages, with livestock and crops growing in plots behind homes, and horses and ox carts traversing the streets.
Works for me.
LOL, mdavid, RJohnson, and myself, all on the same page! High-fives all around.
That is an excellent point, mdavid, about keeping up good relations with neighbors, so that little "violations" here and there are overlooked. Not sure we could squeeze chickens in to our backyard, though. That would be pushing it.
However - with loosened zoning, *other* people within walking distance probably *could* sell chickens, eggs, goat milk and cheese, etc. Sustainability doesn't mean *every* household has to be completely independent. It can also mean that groups of people within walking / biking distance of each other can *specialize* and sell what they make; what others need. The key here is to also free ourselves not only from too much dependence on petroleum, but to also free ourselves from "corporatism" - from being *forced* through gov't edict to buy from corporations rather than each other.
The only objection I have to the "peak oil" ideas re: urban homesteading is this. People are far more likely to do something like garden, make their own clothes or cheese, etc. if they *like* it and see the immediate, positive benefits for themselves - NOT out of reaction to a potential coming crisis. Other than that, I can't see a thing wrong with the idea.
Rod: Re: working couples. Working couples, especially without children, spend enormous amounts of time off work 1) watching TV; 2) going to the gym (sometimes driving some distance to do so.) Digging up the back yard is excellent exercise - and (hopefully) has a payoff at the end of all that work. In many parts of the US, it's possible to get not one growing season in but two. That's a lot of digging and physical work.
I also think the remark "You have children" meant that children can contribute a great deal to "urban homesteading" labor. There are many small jobs which children can do, tasks which give them a sense of accomplishment and actually help, once the children get into the habit.
Everything I need to know about sustainable, back-to-the-land suburbia I learned from Tom and Barbara Good:
bbc.co.uk/comedy/goodlife/index.shtml
Mucking about out back with the goat and in the mud was worth it back then just for Felicity Kendal!
Even now, I get the Wellies...
I'd advise not panicking. Of course, if all of civilization collapses within a few months, that would be a good time to panic, but perhaps what we'll see is just a gradual slide into being less and less wealthy, without much looting and mobs and all that. We just don't know what's going to happen.
And let's not forget that lots of great things happened long before oil was discovered. The level of wealth our society now has isn't required for true civilization.
At the same time of course, if even the non-panicky predictions come to pass, it won't be easy. So what to do?
Here's a thought. It's not clear that moving to the boonies is a great idea. It's not clear that moving to the cities is a great idea. But if we're all going to get poorer, then one practical thing we can do is to start getting used to getting by with less.
Is this crunchy? I wonder. At least some crunchy cons adore things that seem unbelievably expensive to people like me (one-income family, professor's salary, seven children, expensive part of the country). Someone may need to develop a version of crunchy that doesn't taste so yummy or look so good. Life's hard sometimes. (Homework assignment: reread the Little House books. They seem to have eaten a lot of salt pork!)
One way to get by with less: do more of the economic production at home. Why pay others to bake your bread, or clean your house, or whatever, if you can do these things yourself?
Another way: find ways to have fun that don't cost much money. E.g., reading aloud together rather than going to the movies.
Another way: simply do without certain things, such as cable TV or the phone or the gym membership.
Many people--not all, but many--could spend less than they do. If you can learn to be thrifty, you'll be getting ready for the big crash, or the big slide, or whatever.
I'm not saying we shouldn't also learn to grow veggies or shoot straight or whatever. I'm just saying that getting used to having less will be helpful on any scenario--indeed, it will be useful even if the economy somehow doesn't tank!
It would take Y2K to have actually meant something.
Student loans? Get rid of them fast with three years in the Army, up to $60,000. Plus you can get a nice little nest egg from bonuses and combat pay. You won't have any expenses while you are in, if you are single, lower expenses if you are married. I'm not even kidding. It's tough, but you'll come out debt-free, and tens of thousands of dollars ahead if you are smart about it.
Or if you're constitutionally against killing people, there are several Federal agencies which will pay down $10,000 a year. Not as fast as Army service, but a touch easier.
When I return to civilianhood, I intend to live within bicycling distance of work and have a gardenable plot. I will learn to preserve and can the produce from the garden. I already know how to knit. If it gets downright apocalyptic I'll run for the hills just like everyone else. I hope it never comes to that. There is a very dark pool of inhumanity in each of us, and it doesn't take very much at all for society to fall apart and for that darkness to come out. It's not a pretty thing. For now, I'll aim for "sustainable" in every since of the word.
Oh, Scott . . . for a minute there I thought you said "MACKING about out back with the goat." I'm so glad I was wrong . . . must be the martini doing my reading for me. ; )
I'm all for living smaller, more simply. I'm against sprawl. I'm for living near where you do other things like work and go to school.
And collapse is always possible - personaly, I'm more concerned about the poor around the world crushed by skyrocketing food prices than I am by the threat to American suburbanites.
But it could happen.
But it also couldn't. Who knows.
Here's something to think about - Chrysler has just started this 2.99/gallon gas thing for three years if you buy one of their vehicles.
Does anyone seriously think that Chrysler would do something like this if they knew that gas was just going to keep going up, up up?
No, I'm thinking they're doing it because they know it will go down, back to under 3/gallon again.
Just something to think about.
"Does anyone seriously think that Chrysler would do something like this if they knew that gas was just going to keep going up, up up?"
It's all in the fine print.
"*The gallon allotment calculation used to determine three years of gas at $2.99 per gallon is as follows: 12,000 miles driven per year multiplied by 3 years, divided by the vehicle's adjusted combined EPA City/Highway average miles per gallon (MPG) (average MPG calculated via average of all body models MPG within each nameplate). Please refer to attached matrix to view individual nameplate average MPG and program gallon allotment.
Chrysler, Jeep and Dodge are registered trademarks of Chrysler LLC ."
2400 gallons is the most that they offer in this program, and that over three years. Since they control the card which accesses this they can insure that you never use a drop more than what you are allotted.
Also, if you take advantage of this you are ineligible for any other incentive programs, such as cash-back or special interest rates.
In other words, they have it covered.
Does John Jeavons have any books about raising livestock, i.e. "How to Eat More Steak?" That would be worth reading.
I like this blog, but the urge to surmise "we're all gonna die!" is a bit too strong.
Since first learning about peak oil (and being totally freaked out about it) in 2005, my husband and I have changed our way of living drastically, trying to become "urban homesteaders." We sold our NYC apartment and bought an old farmhouse on nearly 3 acres of land on the outskirts of a small city in upstate NY. We felt this was a good place to weather the coming storms as there's lots of farmland around, plus we're on a railroad line and have a semi-thriving waterfront.
We've been gardening and learning new skills (sewing, carpentry, beekeeping, etc.) We've planted trees and fruit bushes. We have a big store of food in the root cellar. We're looking into digging a well, as we have a water source. We've paid down most of our debt (except mortgage). We re-arranged our lives to get rid of our big daily commutes, and only drive when necessary. I'm taking a bike repair class this summer. I'm taking credits toward becoming a nurse, since that seems to be more of a SHTF-friendly type of profession compared to journalist, which is what I used to be. Stuff like that.
Probably, most importantly, I've tried to work on my spiritual life. Realizing that nothing is promised, trying to be thankful for every day on this earth. It helps keep fear at bay.
These are things we always wanted to do, as we always had it in the back of our minds to chuck city life one day and become "back to the land" types, but learning about peak oil just put an urgency to our plans and pushed up the timeline.
I agree with anonymous at 9:21. It's fun to talk about raising crops and livestock, and it's salutary for all to try to avoid debt, learn useful skills, etc. But I think it borders on lunacy for people living in the most fortunate country in the world to go about their daily lives in fear of some potential disaster. Probably 100,000 people are dead in Myanmar, and 2.5 million affected--all from one storm. Over 60,000 dead in China, in one earthquake. Iraqi officials say at least 50,000 people have died violently since the war started. Some estimates are ten times that many. I don't know how many people have died violently in Africa in the last couple of years. Honestly, I think you're doing something rather abusive to your families if you teach them to go around fearing the future. If we, as Americans, can't face the future with our heads up, who in the world can? If Christians can't live in hope, without constant paranoia, then who will? I think everyone should live the lifestyle that is most congenial to them, but I think I have more respect for those who are using their brains and skills, working and trying to keep the whole country a safe, good place for our children, rather than abandoning the enterprise out of fear to curl up in a tiny corner of it.
bd_rucker: "more of a SHTF-friendly type of profession"
Thank heavens for Google, and the Urban Dictionary. Otherwise, I might have greeted eternity under the misapprehension that the sibilant quadracronym above was a looser version of STFU, which a friend on a handgunners' list elaborates as a commandment enjoining one detained by the law to: Speak The Fewest Utterances...
Great fun to hear you reference Seymour's book! My wife and I bought a Seymour book when we got married 30 years ago, and we still use it.
Clearly, we Christians have genuine hope so we reject despair, fear and panic. But prudence is a Christian virtue, and a prudent person can already see how our globalized, over-industrialized, oil-addicted society is beginning to sputter. Its simply prudent to relearn the traditional skills that enabled our ancestors to weather storms of various types.
Plus, another good reason to relearn the traditional ways is that they often are much more satisfying than the "modern" alternative. I pulled some rhubarb in our garden last night, and a neighbor suggested using it in a savory stew he recommended.
Otherwise, I might have greeted eternity under the misapprehension that the sibilant quadracronym above was a looser version of STFU, which a friend on a handgunners' list elaborates as a commandment enjoining one detained by the law to: Speak The Fewest Utterances...
If law enforcement types used that 'quadacronym' you'd have greeted eternity a long time ago.
Point being, of course, that when in custody of those with gunpower, you obviously don't direct the STFU commandment at them, you bind yourself with it - especially if your tendencies in the opposite direction do, indeed, have a history of causing the SHTF...
These skills and knowledge are very important to know and maintain. I live in the city but am involved with a permaculture organization to learn to be more self sufficient and work within our resources and ecosystem. Why do we have to do everything the high tech way if there are perfectly good solutions that have worked for thousands of years? Many of these modern ways came about thru corporate marketing campaigns designed to promote the use of another more expensive synthetic product.
More than that though, do you really want to be that dependent? I am not comfortable with that.
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