Crunchy Con

OK, yes, McCain's being slimy

Saturday May 10, 2008

Categories: Republicans
I'm convinced now that Andrew Sullivan's right, and McCain's being slimy by saying that obviously Obama doesn't share the priorities of Hamas, but hey, the terrorists say they like him. So ... what does McCain want people to conclude from...
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Matty
May 10, 2008 1:17 PM

A Klan endorsement of McCain (or any other candidate) is not analogous to that of Hamas. The KKK is a reprehensible and miniscule segment of the US population. Their endorsement would mean an unfortunate overlapping of policy statements. Hamas is a militant international organization funded and backed by Iran with the primary goal of eliminating one of our allies of long-standing. For them as our enemies to say that they prefer one candidate over another is to implicitly state that they feel he/she is the weaker potential leader. That is McCain's point, not that Obama has any affinity for Hamas.

RJohnson
May 10, 2008 1:31 PM

The Republicans love to play the guilt by association card. "Look! Hamas endorsed Barack HUSSEIN Obama! He must be Muslim!"

Maybe Hamas is playing this country a bit. What if they want McCain to win the election. What would be the best way to do that? It would be to handicap his opponent. And what kind of handicap plays best with the most vocal segment of our media? Association with terrorists!

So, Hamas simply endorses Obama to help McCain, knowing the Republicans and FOX/GOP news will play it up.

And we have a topic of discussion to keep our minds off the poor economy, the growing violence in Lebanon, the dead and dying in Myanmar, the oil price rising yet again, and all the other real issues facing us.

Now all we need is Britney to go without panties or Miley to pose topless again and our next month of news and blogs will be set!

The Man From K Street
May 10, 2008 2:37 PM

Oh, if Andrew says that McCain's comments on the object of his (Andrew's) man-crush are "slimy", well then, case closed!

Steve
May 10, 2008 3:08 PM

Hamas also says all Jews should die. Are they right about that also? Why do people take terrorists statements at face value? I hear Hamas is selling land real cheap if any of you guys are looking. They sure could use some buyers who trust them.

The NYT endorsed McCain on the Republican side of he primaries. At the time McCain was starting to pull ahead and I thought this was an attempt on their part to manipulate the Republican primary.

Steve

Anonymous
May 10, 2008 6:27 PM

It's all an act.

What the candidates say.

What the commentators and pundits say about what they said.

What the candidates say in response to what the commentators and pundits say about what they said.

One's time is probably more productively spent picking one's nose.

Reader John
May 10, 2008 7:10 PM

Didn't some pundit first bring up the subject in a question to McCain? Doesn't that change the slime quotient?

Marc in Cape Coral
May 10, 2008 7:33 PM

I don't see the television, so perhaps I just don't understand.

But if Senator Obama w a n t e d to repudiate the quasi-endorsement of Hamas or Hizbollah or whichever terrorist cult quasi-endorsed him, surely he could? just as surely as he w o u l d were the KKK, e.g., being so iconically and mediatically evil, to endorse him: he might wish to God they had kept their bloody opinions to themselves, and wish likewise that the media and every other politician, even every other political opponent, would keep silence, but he w o u l d repudiate their act and not try to play it off as if it is beneath his political dignity to notice.

So I think it is fair to provisionally conclude that Senator Obama is of the opinion that Hamas--if that is the group in question--is not so evil as the Klan, e.g., that it has, perhaps, something, at least, positive going for it. If Mr Sullivan and R. D. want to characterise the articulation of that provisional conclusion by a political opponent of Senator Obama's as 'slime', tant pis pour moi. Perhaps the Illinois senator h a s repudiated Hamas and Hamas's terrorist tactics at some point; I don't know: someone who cannot bring himself to cast a vote in the public assembly against infanticide isn't worth the effort required to keep up with all of his opinions and activities.

RJohnson
May 10, 2008 8:50 PM

But if Senator McCain w a n t e d to repudiate the endorsement of Hagee or Parsley or whichever cult leader endorsed him, surely he could? just as surely as he w o u l d were the KKK, e.g., being so iconically and mediatically evil, to endorse him: he might wish to God they had kept their bloody opinions to themselves, and wish likewise that the media and every other politician, even every other political opponent, would keep silence, but he w o u l d repudiate their act and not try to play it off as if it is beneath his political dignity to notice.

So I think it is fair to provisionally conclude that Senator McCain is of the opinion that Hagee--if that is the person in question--is not so evil as the Klan, e.g., that he has, perhaps, something, at least, positive going for him. If Mr Sullivan and R. D. want to characterize the articulation of that provisional conclusion by a political opponent of Senator McCain's as 'slime', tant pis pour moi. Perhaps the Arizona senator h a s repudiated Hagee's and Parsley's extremist views at some point; I don't know: someone who cannot bring himself to cast a vote in the public assembly against torture isn't worth the effort required to keep up with all of his opinions and activities.

Hortle
May 11, 2008 7:27 AM

It's fair for him to say "You'll never hear that Hamas is endorsing me," but going beyond that is a bit slimy.

However, McCain's campaign very deftly switched the debate from McCain's statement to calling Obama out for his ageist response to McCain's statement. That should be a warning to Obama that he's got to get into playoff mode STAT if he wants to stand a chance in November.

Marc in Cape Coral
May 11, 2008 10:16 AM

Yes, yes, I realise that reasonable people cannot legitimately distinguish between 'infanticide' (more precisely, what that word represents in the specific political context here) and 'torture' (more precisely, what that word represents in the specific political context here), and 'the relationship between Senator Obama and Rev Wright' and 'the relationship between Senator McCain and Rev Hagee'. Alas for us, and for our Republic.

Joe
May 11, 2008 3:55 PM

I believe we all know the difference here. I think we all know why McCain asked for and recieved Hagees endorsement. He needs the votes. But trying to compare Wright and Black Liberation Theology over the years to Hagee and others as equal relationships to the candidates is just silly. But its certainly fair to critize Amnesty John for it.

Infantacide has only one meaning. It is the killing of a child after it is born. Killing a child. Attempting to indicate abortion is infanticade is simply not true. Nor attempting to say it means something else used in a "political" context, it does not.

I don't agree with abortion, but if its discussed, it has to discussed be using honest language.

I'd also be very, very careful talking about McCain in anything relating to torture. He has credibility that most of his critics don't in this area. Coming back and having a Professor tell me what was wrong and how it really was in the war was hard to take from a man that never left the country.

Perhaps folks should keep up with things more.

Mhoram
May 12, 2008 10:06 AM

If the KKK endorsed McCain, even against his wishes, that would tell us something about McCain, at least in relation to the other candidates. Like it or not, it would tell us that the KKK likes his policies and promises more than Obama's or Clinton's. Would it be "fair" to bring that up? Of course, but that would give McCain a chance to reject the endorsement and score points off it, if he didn't do anything to attract it in the first place.

Obama could score major points if he used this opportunity to turn those awesome rhetorical abilities I keep hearing about against Hamas, letting people know that his opposition to Iraq doesn't mean he's soft on Islamic jihadism. Will he? It's a ripe fruit just waiting for picking; if he doesn't pick it, people can't be blamed for wondering why.

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