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Spengler, on the day after Modernism

Wednesday May 28, 2008

Categories: Decline and fall
Reviewing a new book on the Bible, co-authored by a Jewish and a Christian scholar, Spengler finds that the Scriptural view of human nature endures, and will provide the basis for whatever will succeed Modernism and Post-Modernism. Excerpt: It is...
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mdavid
May 28, 2008 9:17 PM

...the anti-culture of death will reduce most of the industrial world to a geriatric ward by the latter half of his century,

What a great line.

Immigrants had better be careful picking over the ruins, however. Modernism is radioactive.

Very good Caldwell review, as well.

Anonymous
May 28, 2008 10:40 PM

I thought Modernity was a virus which the rest of the world was going to catch and join us on the march to oblivion?

I'm really not sure why Spengler is so down on modernism and considers it a culture of death. Consider the following examples of how many lives have been saved by a few examples modernity:

The eradication of small pox.

The vaccine for polio.

The Haber process which produces 100 million tons of fertilizer per year and is responsible for sustaining one-third of the Earth's population.

I could go on, but I think it is safe to say that billions of lives have been saved. Granted some bad things have happened, but I think we're squarely in the black on this by the order of a few billion people.

MH
May 28, 2008 10:42 PM

I thought Modernity was a virus which the rest of the world was going to catch and join us on the march to oblivion?

I'm really not sure why Spengler is so down on modernism and considers it a culture of death. Consider the following examples of how many lives have been saved by a few examples modernity:

The eradication of small pox.

The vaccine for polio.

The Haber process which produces 100 million tons of fertilizer per year and is responsible for sustaining one-third of the Earth's population.

I could go on, but I think it is safe to say that billions of lives have been saved. Granted some bad things have happened, but I think we're squarely in the black on this by the order of a few billion people.

MH
May 28, 2008 10:43 PM

Sorry for the double post.

Charles Cosimano
May 28, 2008 11:47 PM

Remember, these are people who want us all to live in mud huts and spend what little time is left after digging the soil with sticks to plant what few crops may grow in our climate praying.

Anglican
May 29, 2008 12:37 AM

Granted modernity has been good,i.e medical advances and such, but somewhere along the line, for all the progress,something did die in the heart of the West and say in Japan.In the end all that progress was for naught if, we as a culture or group of cultures cannot even do a basic thing like make enough people to carry on our culture. A couple bits of the New Testament come to mind,such as "what does it profit a man to gain the whole world if his loses his soul" and "man does not live by bread alone".

MH
May 29, 2008 10:33 AM

The demographic transition is larger than the West. Since 1970, China's TFR fell from 5.8 to 1.6; India's from 5.8 to 2.9; Indonesia from 5.6 to 2.4; Japan's from 2.0 to 1.3; Mexico's from 6.8 to 2.4; Brazil's from 5.4 to 2.3; and South Africa's from 5.9 to 2.7. The U.S. TFR dropped from 2.55 in 1970 to around 2.1 today.

Marian Neudel
May 29, 2008 5:22 PM

Haven't read the book in question (will start looking for it in the public library), but with all due apologies for that fact, I have real trouble with "the scriptural view of human nature." Which scriptures? Which view? While there are bits of Genesis that can be retro-read to imply original sin (the desire of man's heart is evil from its beginning, etc.), the Jewish scriptures as a whole imply no such thing. Indeed, the gospels don't imply it either, except maybe John.

The "Bible", or for that matter even the "Old Testament", isn't a book, it's a curriculum. It/they don't/doesn't oh-the-heck-with-this-you-get-my-point, there's no really consistent view of human nature even within specific books of scripture, much less the Bible as a whole.

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