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Building for the peak oil future

Wednesday June 11, 2008

Categories: Architecture, Peak oil
I had lunch yesterday with a friend who buys old city buildings and renovates them, mostly for commercial use. He's become as interested in peak oil as I am. He was telling me that he'd just acquired an old apartment...
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SiliconValleySteve
June 11, 2008 6:37 PM

In general you've got it all wrong. Most newer houses have far better insulation and windows to protect against the elements. Having retrofitted two old houses (1903 and 1926 still working on this one) I can tell you that it is easier to get the insulation right first than to add it. There are some good techniques in use now to detect heat and cooling leaks but it can be a bit of the whack-a-mole to get it all working. If you want new windows in any house, its plenty easy to put a window anywhere you want, double-paned and all and if you want better air-flow, it is really easy to rearrange interior walls.

Your 1914 house probably doesn't have any insulation unless it was added later and if you have original single-pane windows, they are almost useless for keeping out the elements.

In terms of a "peak oil" future (of which I am doubtful), skyscrapers are the way to go. Much cheaper to heat and cool per-person, with limited exterior wall space, they have little surface area for heat and cooling loss and they provide the densities required to actually make mass-transit work.

MI
June 11, 2008 7:25 PM

With sufficient insulation & smart design, one can cut HVAC costs considerably. See here:

ecojoes.com/no-more-electric-bill/

frugalmarketing.com/dtb/amorylovins.shtml

IIRC, air conditioners generally run off electricity - the bulk of which is generated by non-petroleum sources. Note also that oil only accounted for ~10% of 2002 US residential/commercial energy consumption; the bulk came from natural gas (admittedly finite) and electricity.

brierrabbit3030
June 11, 2008 8:26 PM

Steve, you are right that modern houses have better insulation, and better insulated windows, but you are wrong that modern houses are designed better. Older houses had to be designed to heat and cool without all that new technology. ceilings were higher to get hot air, up and away from the inhabitants. Porches precooled air before it got in to the house. Tall windows gave a great deal of air circulation thru the house. In the southwest where I grew up. thick adobe walls were standerd for centuries. Like they are everywhere in the worlds dry regions. The oldest known houses known, are adobe ones from the middle east. Adobe has so much thermal mass, that it keeps cool during the day, and radiates heat from the walls into the house, on often cool desert nights. Modern windows are better insulated, but incredibly ugly, compared to historical ones. Technology makes it easy to design houses,}or it did before expensive energy} that just kind of force thier way on nature, so to speak. So your typical tract house has low ceilings, windows that arn't big enough for good cross ventilation, etc. Just flip a switch, and the heater or AC comes on. If you can't do that, like our ancesters, you better have a house built to deal with climate extremes. modern houses rarely are. They do deal with cold temperatures pretty well. But they tend to be lousy in muggy summers, without the help of technology.

Sally Rogers
June 11, 2008 9:31 PM

Wired magazine recently had an article on misconceptions about energy useage and the author made the point that it is generally takes much less energy to cool a house by 20-30 degrees during a hot summer day than it costs to heat a home by 50-60 degrees (or more) on a cold winter day and night. It seems more profligate to us, perhaps because mankind is used to the idea of heating as a basic necessity - we've done it for so long, with fires that it seems normal, but we've only had air conditioning for a few years and so it seems so luxurious and wasteful. But under this analysis it would make more sense for all of us to move further south to places that don't get the worst of the cold, even if it meant we had to use more air conditioning.

Salamander
June 11, 2008 9:32 PM

My aunt lived in Holly Springs, Mississippi, in a circa 1830 house. I think she had a window unit in her bedroom, and that was it. It really was not that bad; with her 10-foot ceilings and tall windows situated to catch every cross breeze.

I used to live in Charleston, South Carolina, another sweltering locale. The antebellum homes in the historic district were usually built sideways -- known as a "single house," because they were only one room wide and usually 2 or 3 stories high. They had covered porches, called piazzas, on every floor, high ceilings and tall casement windows which could be cranked wide open to catch every breeze.

People did live in the South for centuries without a/c, so it can be done. As for me, however, I will stay here in New England! The winters are long, cold and dreary -- but the delightful 75 degree, breezy summer days make up for it.

Sally Rogers
June 11, 2008 9:34 PM

Wired magazine recently had an article on misconceptions about energy useage and the author made the point that it is generally takes much less energy to cool a house by 20-30 degrees during a hot summer day than it costs to heat a home by 50-60 degrees (or more) on a cold winter day and night. It seems more profligate to us, perhaps because mankind is used to the idea of heating as a basic necessity - we've done it for so long, with fires that it seems normal, but we've only had air conditioning for a few years and so it seems so luxurious and wasteful. But under this analysis it would make more sense for all of us to move further south to places that don't get the worst of the cold, even if it meant we had to use more air conditioning.

SiliconValleySteve
June 11, 2008 9:35 PM

Cheap windows might be ugly but better windows from vendors such as Anderson Renewal look almost the same as the old ones only better insulated. Ceiling height helps with cooling but is tough for heating. Take your pick? A well placed whole-house fan can work wonders on removing excessive heat build up with minimal electricity use. As far as mini-mansions go, the ones I've seen have pretty tall ceilings. Want taller windows, like I said, many of these things can be retrofitted and having just put in some new casement windows to replace my old rotted-out ones, they work and seal really well. Quiet too.

The porch thing works great. We have sun half-the-day in our back yard so I built a nice deck with an arbor. The original 20's house just baked in the back.

Adobe is great if you can do it. There's an old Mission (reproduction actually but pretty damn nice) south of us in San Juan Batista in sun-baked, San Benito county. Go in there on a 100+ degree day and its a revelation. Wouldn't want to be there during and earthquake however.

I get your bit about indiginous design forms and their suitability to climate and conditions. Hat tip to Lloyd Kahn for his "Shelter" books on being educated to that. A friend of mine owned part of an 3-story old unreinforced masonry building that he was getting shored up to handle earthquakes. I visited when he had it gutted and since it was built before electricity, it had the most amazing light well. In the mid-day California sun, the effect inside was stunning. 14 years ago and I still remember it. Sometimes responding to limitations can make a building. Even by accident.

But, most late 19th century and early 20th century american housing has it's charms but it largely consists of plopping down designs without much concern for context. Victorians in N. California are actually pretty silly regardless of the garish colors they might be painted. Acid heads loved em. Arts and Crafts can be pretty hit-or-miss. Some just work and others look like crude theme park design.

I get most of my ideas from old neighborhoods that have adapted over time. Stewart Brand wrote a really fun book called "How Buildings Learn" that captures the magic of something I'd noticed for years but never put a name on. Highly recommended.

Kevin Carson
June 12, 2008 1:12 AM

As the authors of Natural Capitalism argue, the housing industry (like all other industries) has barely even begun to pick the low-hanging fruit of energy conservation. It takes extremely high energy prices to overcome the inertia and path dependency.

I'm waiting for contractors to start building houses with passive solar cooling, using solar chimneys to draw cool air through ducts several feet underground.

As for skyscrapers, in a world of $300/barrel oil, the economic rationale for having them will disappear. We're almost certainly in the process of shifting to a decentralized economy of small-scale industrial production for local markets. What's the point of skyscrapers when there's no longer any global financial centers or large corporations? Maybe they'll give the WTC site back to the Syrian neighborhood David Rockefeller and the Port Authority stole it from.

Bill H
June 12, 2008 7:07 AM

I don't know about you, but I use electricity to cool my house and gas to heat it. Wouldn't peak oil make heating more of a concern than cooling? While my energy bills are generally lowest in the late spring and mid-fall, in general, they're lower during summer than winter, and I live in the Deep South.

rombald
June 12, 2008 7:25 AM

In England there is no need for air-conditioning. Heating is needed, but winters are much milder than in northern USA. I grew up in Victorian houses, with draughts, high ceilings, no insulation, and small, single-glazed windows, and was used to heating being enormously expensive. My present house was built in the 1950s, and heating costs maybe 20% what it would in an older house of the same size - big, double-glazed south-facing windows, low ceilings, cavity-wall insulation, etc. Houses built since the 1970s, though, have such poor workmanship that the heating costs have probably gone up again.

carly
June 12, 2008 8:18 AM

A/C made it possible for the South to partake of the same type economy the North enjoys in the first place. Prior to A/C the South was mostly agricultural. Working in an office building when much of the summer was unbearably oppressive was just not appealing. Can you imagine how little work would get done in such a situation?

Karen Brown
June 12, 2008 9:22 AM

I will say that if we do lose easy access to energy, it won't be AC that I'm worried about. AC was always considered to be optional. Sure, miserable without it, but it is lack of /heating/ ability that'll kill people around here.

Even a series of 90 degree days in a row will just make most people miserable. Dip much below 40 and not only do pipes freeze, but we're talking about dangerous, and here.. it goes way lower than 40.

CatholicAgrarian
June 12, 2008 9:25 AM

I wonder if the social unrest following a post-peak oil economic crash will make raising a family in a place like DFW impossible way before the AC gets too expensive to run.

stefanie
June 12, 2008 10:22 AM

Most of us keep our houses way too warm in the winter. Yes, you need to have heat, but with enough sweaters, wooley slippers, and comforters on the bed, it's not necessary to have the thermostat much over the low 60s. Doing a lot of baking / roasting in the oven keeps things warm too.

What really helps is having a front porch with windows which can be left open in the summer, then closed in the winter. Our front porch faces south, and can be quite liveable most of the winter, especially if it's sunny. It provides a warming "zone" so that the front door isn't immediately exposed to blasts of cold winter air.

For many people, A/C *is* necessary, especially when you have many days or weeks of 90+ degree weather, including at night. Older people especially are at risk from extreme heat (remember all those older people who died in France some years back.)

Bob
June 12, 2008 12:01 PM

Wired magazine recently had an article on misconceptions about energy useage...

I saw that issue of Wired and, like everything in Wired, it is full of techno-utopian/libertarian cant. "Crank the A/C!" "Screw Organics" "Live in the City" Wired is consistently advocating a technological solution for all our problems, and they consistently omit all the pesky little details that render most of their "solutions" worse than the problem. Nowhere in the paean to A/C is there a mention of passive solar heating techniques and costs of refrigerants, electrical grid distribution, etc. The implication of Wired's "crank the A/C" is what - move everyone to climates with no heating season?

Take everything you read in Wired with a huge grain of salt.

Anglican Peggy
June 12, 2008 12:24 PM

From listening to the stories of my grandparents, both native to North Texas, about what life was like without a/c, I have always said that Dallas quite simple owes its existence as a big city to a/c. I have always imagined that it wouldn't be hard at all to compare population and new building starts from before a/c and after a/c and find an overwhelming confirmation of this.

It took a certain kind of person to live here. Those tough enough or foolhardy enough to move here in the first place and their unfortunate children who had no choice until they got old enough to leave!

Now having said that, I also have to speak up for the pre a/c days. According to my grandparents, Dallas was a much different town. People were forced to live outside during the summers. Life was conducted from the front porch or yard. Since the advent of a/c allowed people to escape the heat, they also lost touch with their neighbors as well. I am not sure the advent of ac did Dallas, and other towns located in the hot and humid as blazes climes, such a favor as it is commonly thought. Cities and towns in more moderate climates have much more of an outdoor existence. They don't need ac as much and therefore the temptation is absent to hermetically seal ones family existence away from the kind of hellish temperatures we regularly experience here in Big D and other places like it.

This is not to say of course that this a/c induced isolation can't be countered somehow. But there is a long way to go to that end.

Anglican Peggy
June 12, 2008 12:46 PM

Rombold,

I had the pleasure to live in Ireland for almost a year and I loved it (since I like rain). But one thing that I liked in particular is that most buildings, even newer ones, were heated using radiators. Not only was I warmer in any radiator heated room than I have ever been in one central heated, but they struck me as much more effecient energy-wise granted that the place wasn't drafty. All they need is enough energy to heat water and the metal does all the rest.

Even better for me though was that I didn't get nearly as dried out as I do in the winter in my centrally heated home. My nose and skin are particularly sensitive to that kind of thing.

Finally, the dang things are handy. I can't count the number of times I had to wash something last minute (ie not at the laundrette) and just threw it over the nearest radiator. It was always dry and warm in the morning. Used towels were also dried in the same manner and on very cold days there is nothing like grabbing your bath towel directly off the radiator.

I guess all this is to say that I accordingly granted Ireland (and England) superiority in the heating category. I learned that high tech doesnt always beat low tech and that technological advancement isn't always an step forward. I would love to install radiators in my next home.

DavidTC
June 12, 2008 12:52 PM

As the authors of Natural Capitalism argue, the housing industry (like all other industries) has barely even begun to pick the low-hanging fruit of energy conservation. It takes extremely high energy prices to overcome the inertia and path dependency.

No kidding. It's somewhat absurd, actually. I can't count the number of houses without correctly designed attics. You've all lived in them...houses with attics so hot you can't go up there in the summer, yet cool in the winter. Um...that's backwards. Attics should be only slightly hotter than outside in the summer, and as hot as possible in the winter, which they would be if the thermostats and vents on them were built correctly.

I mean, that's not some sort of fancy new material or expensive solar panels, that's a temperature sensor and a IC to average the daily temperature and figure out if it's summer or winter. We could do it dumbly for decades, we can do it smartly now, and we don't.

Personal environmentalism is a crock. I refuse to spend hours of my time to get a fraction of the result that a tiny bit of planning, in companies that sell us products, would get. I'll install solar panels when companies stop designing electric razors with wall wart chargers that use as much power as a solar panel would provide when the razor isn't even plugged in, and then selling that to millions of people, when they could install a 7 cent sensor that would flip the thing off. (Seriously. Go feel your wall warts and see hot they are sometimes, even when the device is off. Now unplug the device, wait a bit, and see if they're still hot. Half of them will be!)

Well, I mean, I'll do it if it saves money, but I'm not doing it out of an obligation or anything. I don't have an obligation not to walk on the grass if other people are driving tanks over it, no matter what the sign asks me to do.

And, no, rising energy costs won't help, because most people have no idea where their energy is going. I know everyone here will disagree with me, but this is where we need legislation, at least labeling. All electronic devices sold should have average watt hours used, when both off and on, printed on them, both on the label and on the device. If you look, you'll notice we already have such a label on electronic devices, except it only lists wattage, which you can't extrapolate watt hours from. (Because that wattage is peak use, so it might just need it when turning on.)

SiliconValleySteve
June 12, 2008 1:09 PM

Peggy,

Sorry but hot-water heat isn't more efficient. Every time you transfer heat from one substance to another, you lose. So, heating the water which heats the metal which heats the air is less efficent than heating the air and blowing it in to the room. It is more comfortable however.

Bob
June 12, 2008 1:44 PM

Sorry but hot-water heat isn't more efficient. Every time you transfer heat from one substance to another, you lose. So, heating the water which heats the metal which heats the air is less efficent than heating the air and blowing it in to the room. It is more comfortable however.

This obscures the difference between radiant heat and convection. It really depends on where you're getting the heat and how that heat is transmitted to humans. Compare two ways to heat a given living space. Electrical heat obtained by heating a resistive filament and blowing air across it. The electricity comes from a dirty coal plant miles away. On average, 8% of the electricity was lost in the transmission lines between the heater and the coal plant. Air is an extremely poor conductor of heat, compared to water and most metals.

Now consider a radiant floor using water heated directly by solar collectors on the roof (or even augmented by gas or electric water heaters.) There are no fans or blowers involved, but pumps to cycle the water through the radiant coils. And radiant heat, as anyone knows who has been warmed directly by the sun's rays on a cold winter's day, is much more pleasant than having dehumidified hot air blown in your face.

Basically, when it comes to specific applications of warming humans in a given space, you can't make blanket statements - no pun intended - like "hot-water heat isn't more efficient."

SiliconValleySteve
June 12, 2008 2:09 PM

Bob,

You confuse the issue by introducing the source of energy. OK, if you can use solar, that's maybe cheaper and if it works better with thermal heat then you've got a point. (maintenance of active solar aside where if designed correctly which is difficult passive solar would likely be more efficient). IOW you need to compare apples and apples. You mention comfort and I'd already agreed that radiant water heat is much more pleasant. But, you do not address the basic thermodynamics and ya can't fool mother nature.

Bob
June 12, 2008 2:24 PM

But, you do not address the basic thermodynamics and ya can't fool mother nature.

Yes, I did. Compare the overall BTU per dollar of radiant floor to resistive electrical heat in my example and radiant comes out ahead. "The source of energy" is the most important thing about this comparison. Not to mention the environmental aspects are tilted way in favor of radiant floor heat. The point is, you cannot insist on apples to apples here because we are comparing different things that perform similar functions.

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