Crunchy Con

Clutter or culture? (Erin)

Saturday June 28, 2008

Categories: Varia
From the New York Times comes an amusing look at a problem some of us may have had, or may yet have, involving the cherished possessions of previous generations: Here is the problem with family furnishings: they are never simply...
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Drew
June 28, 2008 5:13 PM

We took photographs of various pieces of furniture before selling them. It's a way of keeping the memories without the clutter.

caroline
June 28, 2008 6:09 PM

Think carefully, young folk, before you toss. I live in a west coast city in which almost anything from the early 1900's let alone the late 1800's carries a big price tag in the antique shops and by "anything" I mean even stuff poorish people had in their homes over a hundred years ago. I'm 70 and still enjoy and even use stuff from my grandmother who died in 1934. And I'm not talking about valuable antiques. Just plain folk dishes and furniture and the like of the early 1900's and late 1800's. Sometimes and just for the fun of it I visit the antique shops and look at things and look at prices. I don't buy anything but I humbly thank the shopkeepers for the pleasure of looking with an added remark that they probably don't like to hear. "I will go home to greater appreciate the old junque I have. "

Now, after one of these rambles, I leave tags on things informing my heirs that on such and such a day I saw the same identical thing at such and such a price at such and such an antique store in our fair city. If you don't want the cut glass, not pressed glass, flower bowl which rings when you hit it, at least sell it on line to pay tuition for the kids. But forget about ever buying the like back again.

In short--research the value of what you are going to toss before you toss--or make someone else's day by just giving it away to someone who lusts for that old thing, which isn't bad either. I love whoever lusted for the 1920's wicker furniture of my father, at least five pieces, which I had to leave in what became my niece's house and to whom she finally gave it with my blessing and I bless another mover who gave her and her children a l920's baby-grand piano just a few weeks later. Karma.

Charles Cosimano
June 28, 2008 10:36 PM

Our stuff, more than anything else, is what defines us as humans, and as individuals. We can live without ideas, we cannot live without things.

who knew
June 29, 2008 10:56 AM

My mother loved her stuff. My mother died. My father died. Four years later my sister and I are still dicussing what to do with the stuff. I am the problem = I look at the ugly little china dog and I don't see the ugly little china dog. I see the day I came home from yet another miserable day at school and there was my mother, holding the little china dog as she carefully dusted and polished the shelf it sat on. There was a warm spring breeze blowing through the open window, a vase of peonies on the table and I knew that soon my trials in the first grade would be over with and I'd be home with my mother for the summer, safe and cherished.

My sister sees an ugly little china dog.

Karen Brown
June 29, 2008 11:40 AM

Well, we had the same problem with my mother's stuff. Luckily, we didn't fight over items. (There'd be a bigger issue if you live in separate houses and BOTH loved the ugly china dog...)

So, we each discussed what small items we wanted, there were major furniture, and we drew for them, just to keep it fair. If one didn't want it, we agreed that the others would have a chance to buy it off their hands.

Of course, we're a pretty pragmatic family, though. Navy brats, and only one of us was really the type to get emotionally attached to stuff.

mary
August 5, 2008 3:44 PM

my best friend has a clutter problem I tried to helped her but its seems she dont get it, and everytime I tell her to throw this and that away I feel like she wants to tell me off, I love her like a sister and I would not want to hurt her feelings, but it just drives me crazy! it seems that she is changing little by little but still she needs to get rid off alot of things that look taky, like for example the two ugly dusty fake christmas plants she has on top of another clutter cabinet full of stuff from back in the 80's, and early 90's she holds on to things like she was an old lady. to bad she has a nice home but the clutter is not atractive she needs to let go! I would put up a yard sale and sell everything for $1.00! its just THERE collecting dust! I hope little by little she changes or i'll give up on her decorations.

Karen
August 26, 2008 12:18 PM

I, too, have been the beneficiary of many wonderful things (and a bit of junk) from both living and deceased relatives. It began to overwhelm me, so I chose one special thing from each beloved person, something that would make me smile every time I used it, and I let go of the rest.

For example, rather than the entire collection of depression glass, I chose a pretty little blue vase. I keep it filled with roses from our garden all summer, which brings back good memories of my husband's grandmother. From my family, I kept a bookcase my grandfather built for my grandmother. I painted it to match my daughter's bedroom furniture, and it now has a place of honor holding all of her essentials.

In some cases, I had relatives who didn't understand. I gently explained that I was not diminishing our mutual loved ones' memories, rather I was elevating them by choosing items that had the greatest meaning to me. They didn't necessarily agree, but at least they knew that there was a method to my madness, so to speak. Also, I held an open house, where I encouraged those relatives to choose their own special items. Once they made their decisions, I sold the rest of the things without guilt.

Angela
December 9, 2008 10:37 PM

We have recently inherited so many things from my deceased mother-in-law. I feel blessed but overwhelmed at the same time. There are many usable things still, and I plan to use them- but some things are just things that meant something to her as a child that she carried into her marriage, etc...So now I have to wonder: will I leave my children lots of stuff to have to deal with? Some family members have feelings of guilt for wanting to be rid of little scraps of grocery lists- others don't even want to go through the things. I'm one who believes that the real waste would be to create a shrine to her, complete with closets full of clothes that people could be wearing, etc...

chip
July 5, 2009 7:26 PM

my mother-in-law lives in a large beautiful 2500+ square foot 2 story house and about 100 square feet on the inside are actually usable. I loathe visiting my wife's parents because we have to spend the night in this house which is full of things that have either never been used that she inherited from her elder sister, or things that she has never used or never will use. The cabinets in the kitchen are full. the weekly groceries are crammed in the pantry and when that is full, the wal-mart bags full of groceries are placed ontop of the clutter that is on top of the dining room table. when the family visits (15 people or so counting all the spouses and grand-children) we eat thanksgiving or christmas dinner in the living room, on the sofas and on the floor because the tables are never cleared off for a meal. all of her childrens former possessions remain in their respective bedrooms, and we have to squeeze between stored furniture and cardboard boxes to get to the beds we sleep in when we visit. its like sleeping in the attic, but lets not go in there, please... everywhere you look you see clutter. watch your step, wear shoes or you will be sorry

i absolutely dread the day this woman's poor health catches up with her, because my wife and her siblings and us spouses and our children will have to clean up this mess she has left behind for us to deal with.

i pray no one else would do this to their children.

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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