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[Erin] A people without theology or geometry

Monday June 23, 2008

Categories: Religion (general)

Have you seen any of the reports on the Pew's U.S. Religious Landscape Survey?

From the second link, the USA Today article:

Pew released demographic data in February from the survey, which was conducted in May through August 2007. This new installment focuses on the questions asked about Americans' religious beliefs and practices, spiritual experiences, and views on society and politics.

This analysis, based on a questionnaire that never mentions Jesus, portrays a nation of "free-flowing spirituality," says Pew Forum director Luis Lugo, who finds the declining adherence to dogma "stunning."

"You no longer have an alignment of affiliation, belief and behavior. Instead we find complexity, and diversity not only between religious communities but within them, as well. We find a high level of comfort with this diversity," says political scientist John Green, a senior fellow with the Pew Forum.

When Green and Lugo factor in Pew's February findings that 44% of adults say they've switched to another religion or none at all, Lugo says, "You have to wonder: How do you guarantee the integrity of a religious tradition when so many people are coming or going or following ideas that don't match up?"

How, indeed? The short answer is that you don't. When few people take the time to learn what their religions teach, instead feeling comfortable with a cafeteria-style religiosity that lets them accept what's individually pleasing and reject anything that isn't, you're already on an inexorable road to the abandonment of religion as anything more than one among many spiritualistic feel-good options for the American religion consumer.

And that is part of the problem--religion, properly understood, isn't a consumer product. But it gets treated that way, especially in America, where one's "brand" of Christianity is seen as saying more about one's consumer tastes than about any strong adherence to a set of doctrines which one believes to be true, or even more generally, as having anything to do with truth at all.

So while Americans may describe themselves as religious, that self-label doesn't amount to much:

Neither are people likely to return to the denominational fold, says political science professor Alan Wolfe, director of the Boise Center for American and Public Life at Boston University.
"Overall people say they are religious, but they have no command of theology, doctrine or history so it's an empty religiosity. They don't call themselves spiritual, however, because that word has New Age baggage," says Wolfe, who finds "a very forgiving quality" to this non-sectarian, no-mention-of-sin view.

"Americans are deeply suspicious of institutional religion," says Green. Some see "religion as about money, rules and power and that is not a positive connotation for everyone."

Adults under 30 are further from strict religious adherence than their parents and even though other studies show they cycle back to religion at key moments such as marriage or rearing children, those spirals are smaller and smaller, says Tom Smith, director of the Center for the Study of Politics and Society. It is part of the University of Chicago's National Opinion Research Center, which has measured religion and society for decades through the General Social Survey.

"We may see that unlike the past, people are not going to return to the church they left or to any one at all," says Green.

Get that? We've lost our command of theology, doctrine and history. And probably geometry, too, if we only knew it.

And that's why our endless moral debates devolve into shouting about individual tastes and consumer preferences--because those are the only non-material values our culture still believes in, or recognizes as valid.

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Comments
sigaliris
June 27, 2008 8:53 AM

Fair enough, Max. And thanks for the implied compliment of believing that I'm as truthful as I know how to be. ; ) I don't doubt your good faith in this area, either. I asked in a spirit of inquiry--because it is certainly possible that I don't know as much as I think I do. So, next time you think I'm mistaken about Catholic teaching, please do point it out. Perhaps the Whiskey Fairy will reward your diligence by leaving a full bottle under your pillow.

Lee C Stover
June 28, 2008 12:04 PM

My mother sent me to the a Catholic church every Sunday so that I would be eligible to go to a heaven she believed she would never be allowed into because my father wouldn't marry her in the church, in addition to the legal secular marriage they already had.

It took me years to get over the resentments I had against Catholcism but I have. I even donate to a few catholic charities now and then.

That didn't lead me back to the fold though. As far as the protestant and other christian denominations are concerned, I wasn't pulled that way either.

I grew up when there was prayer in the schools. I remember the protestant majority putting down the catholic kids who didn't add "For thine is the kingdom" etc, to the lords prayer at the end.

I remember all the the jewish, budhist,and muslim kids that refused to convert, having to leave the room until the prayers were over.

I felt that they were unfairly seperated from the other kids by this act. The teacher might as well have said "All you infidals leave the room while we pray to Jesus."

Mort Saul once said that;

"Conservatives were for prayer in the schools, for capital punishment and against bussing."

"Liberals were against prayer in schools and capital punisment and for bussing."

"Moderates were 50/50 on capital punishment but would allow prayer on the bus, on the way to school."

I'll check spititual but not religious every time.....lc

Max Schadenfreude
June 30, 2008 2:02 AM

"I'll check spititual but not religious every time.....lc"

That's easy for you to say, you have the strength of your convictions.

Franklin Evans
June 30, 2008 8:13 PM

Hey, Max. All is good and right with the world. You may please now return to at least a little sarcasm in your commentary... except when responding to me or Sig, of course. We should now be able to claim immunization... or something like that. ;-)

Max Schadenfreude
July 1, 2008 8:49 AM

LOL. Franklin, your the best!

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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