I suspect I'll have some Thoughts later today on Father's Day, but I wanted to take a moment to register that I got a pretty great haul of Father's Day loot from my fambly. First, I got the solo CD...
And a very happy Father's Day to you. Though it sounds like you're already having one anyway.
Karen Brown
June 15, 2008 10:21 AM
Oh, and no cliche gifts either.
No cologne, ties, or power tools. I am impressed.
harvey lacey
June 15, 2008 10:49 AM
Happy Fathers Day Rod. It's the day when we fathers get to look around and be really really appreciative of our blessings.
My step daughter called the other day and asked what my wife what I wanted. My wife put her hand over the mouthpiece and asked me what I wanted. I told her that daughter had already given me the three best gifts any father could ever want. A card would more than suffice.
My step daughter has given us three wonderful kids. The oldest is twenty five and the youngest just turned seventeen. My son and daughter has given us three also. They range in age from almost two to almost seven. Yesterday was the boy's fourth birthday.
If something happened to me anytime soon it's my step daughter's kids who will have and cherish the most memories of me. My poor kid's kids would be saddled with all the stories. I'm sure more than one reprimand would be followed with, "if your grandpa was here......"
I think they said we'll have fourteen over for dinner today. I'll be doing my hamburgers. Only two of the fourteen are mine by the traditional definition. The rest of the adults are friends and families of the kids whom have worked their way into our hearts. The house will be full and it'll probably take me the next year to get all the blessings counted. But then, that's what blessings are for, right?
Grumpy Old Man
June 15, 2008 11:10 AM
You really are an old pussycat.
And I've long wanted a shalwar kameez--day pajamas.
Irenaeus
June 15, 2008 11:15 AM
"I don't think I have the guts to wear it outside the house."
$20 if you wear it to work and post a picture.
jeet
June 15, 2008 12:05 PM
$50 if you do it the next time your paper has a meeting with Muslim community leaders.
Marian Neudel
June 15, 2008 12:39 PM
I really like the shalwar kameez too--it is pretty much unisex, though the female versions are a lot more colorful and decorative, and you're right, it's great for hot weather, being both comfortable and modest (and, in the female versions, can be dressed up like mad!)
Charles Cosimano
June 15, 2008 1:20 PM
A book on how to cook vegetarians! Now that sounds like a good idea.
Irenaeus
June 15, 2008 1:38 PM
The problem with vegetarians is that the meat is dry, given their diet. Plus you can't do much with the feet, not even soup -- the Birkenstocks won't come off.
Steve
June 15, 2008 2:06 PM
Brine them first.
Steve
Marie
June 15, 2008 3:04 PM
I'm glad you've discovered the salwar kameez. I spent a couple of years in Karachi and brought a couple back with me when I returned to the US. I used to wear them in public, but after a certain distancing from my Pakistani life, it began to feel too unnatural to wear them outside. But they are wonderfully comfortable and graceful, and nothing is more dignified than a bearded man in a salwar kameez, vest, and turban (you're one down; now you just need the accoutrements). Anyway, enjoy the outfit.
Connie
June 15, 2008 3:12 PM
You can order reasonably priced bespoke salwar kameez online. Technically on ebay they are selling the fabric, but part of completing the transaction is sending them your measurements.
mdavid
June 15, 2008 4:47 PM
You know, posts like today is why I often come to this blog first when I boot up - it always a rich experience, and gets a man thinking.
Some comments:
1) It's a pleasure to see you enjoying life.
2) Forgot it was Father's Day until somebody yelled "Happy Father's Day!" as we were walking to mass and I was like, huh? Since we started seriously celebrating the liturgical year we've slowly dropped secular holidays and never looked back, and I'm glad for your detailed post helping me keep up on what "normal" people are doing out there (like presents for Father's Day). It seems strange, even absurd to me now, and you help put it all in context.
3) Query: does the Orthodox version of Lent allow fish?
4) The kameez story makes me smile. Did you know the Romans once had their own version of the Punjabi suit, long forgotten? It's the growth of cultural things like Cinco de Mayo and the salwar kameez that mark in no uncertain terms the relentless decay of the West. One can look at the demographics, but yet still not really "feel" it. It's a new dark age; we are in it, grabbing what we can from cultures that still have it going on. Food, clothing, religion, family and marriage relations - it's the wild West fire sale! Bring it on, I say. To paraphrase Huxley...May I offer a toast? To our death!
Kizmet
June 15, 2008 6:14 PM
You should look into getting a kilt. Wearing them in public shouldn't be as much of a challenge for you.
Zach
June 15, 2008 8:23 PM
It's official: Rod Dreher is a terrorist sympathizer. Careful, Rod, before Fox News catches on to you.
Kizmet: You should look into getting a kilt. Wearing them in public shouldn't be as much of a challenge for you.
Utili-kilts are pretty popular in the Pacific Northwest, I hear.
harvey lacey
June 15, 2008 9:11 PM
As the day closes I consider myself luckier than most. I got a watch and that's nice. I also got a stainless cook set for doing beer chicken with vegetables. That will get a lot of use. It might even cause be to buy beer on occasion.
But the best gift I got this year was from my step daughter. She called to wish me happy fathers day and confirm she is her mother's daughter. The card is in the mail.
You need to consider that her father was a tall thin quiet man and then after he passed away her mother married me. I'm not tall. I'm not thin. And the last thing you would say about me is that I'm quiet. In fact I describe myself this way, "some people can walk into a room and no one will notice. I'm not one of those people." That's a lot for a young lady to get over when she was her daddy's girl.
Almost as good was the one from our adopted son. He came by with a table and extra chairs because we needed them even though he couldn't be here for the dinner. He's a dad and his daughters have plans for their dad.
I could tell he wanted to talk as soon as he arrived. So we went out on the deck and had a conversation. Probably the greatest gift one father can give to another is advice on raising kids. The next best gift a father can give to another is thanks when that advice works.
Today's a good day. I now have that watch I've needed when I can't find the other two I have. It looks like I've got the tools to do chicken with vegetables without soy sauce, a good thing, real good thing.
But most of all it was a keeper kind of day. I'm sure in the near future something will happen that causes me to pause with the kids. I'll reach back for today and hold it close to help me get through whatever it is. That's why I think of it as a keeper kind of day. It keeps us keeping on when things get tough.
Insane Kitten
June 15, 2008 9:52 PM
But no Fred Sanford t-shirt, huh?
maria
June 16, 2008 6:57 AM
June 15 is Father's day in America? Very nice tradition. In some sense it was Father's day for me too, because it was my father's 60th birthday yesterday. We live in the same town but i don't even know his adress or phone number, even if i got it can't imagine conversation, according to some distant rumours he is alone. Should i ask him how he was doing for the last 20 years? That seems unpolite and rather silly. If he would say he was drinking, should i reply, that's fine, drink on, or maybe recommend to take care of health? All i can invent seems either stupid or embarrassing. Who am i to bother person who is comfortable alone.
John E.
June 16, 2008 8:33 AM
It's the growth of cultural things like Cinco de Mayo and the salwar kameez that mark in no uncertain terms the relentless decay of the West. One can look at the demographics, but yet still not really "feel" it. It's a new dark age; we are in it, grabbing what we can from cultures that still have it going on. Food, clothing, religion, family and marriage relations - it's the wild West fire sale!
Posted by: mdavid | June 15, 2008 4:47 PM
Bah humbug! We take the useful stuff from other cultures and discard their baggage.
sigaliris
June 16, 2008 4:09 PM
Yes, John E. Like the way English flourishes by swiping handy words and concepts from other languages, while leaving behind their cumbersome grammatical structures. I can git me a Weltanschauung without assigning it a gender or putting it into the genitive case. Come to think of it, we snitched pajamas from India long before Rod got his shalwar kameez from the Punjab. (By the way, did you know that the "kameez" is related to an Arabic work qamis, meaning shirt, which is related to the Latin camisia, also meaning shirt? But etymologists differ on which came first.)
Mr. Sig's Father's Day presents presented an amusing picture of what he's like, for those in the know: Drunkard's Walk: How Randomness Rules Our Lives, by Leonard Mlodinow; The Art of Learning, by Josh Waitzkin; a new bird feeder (though he had to put it up himself); a hand-blown glass tumbler from Simon Pearce; and "When I Heard the Learned Astronomer," by Walt Whitman, illustrated by Loren Long, with a note from his son: "there were no better parents for me in the whole universe."
It would be easy to deduce some things about him: his love of books, numbers, nature, beauty, the stars, and his family. And it would be easy to guess, as well, that he's loved in return.
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That's sweet. *grin*
And a very happy Father's Day to you. Though it sounds like you're already having one anyway.
Oh, and no cliche gifts either.
No cologne, ties, or power tools. I am impressed.
Happy Fathers Day Rod. It's the day when we fathers get to look around and be really really appreciative of our blessings.
My step daughter called the other day and asked what my wife what I wanted. My wife put her hand over the mouthpiece and asked me what I wanted. I told her that daughter had already given me the three best gifts any father could ever want. A card would more than suffice.
My step daughter has given us three wonderful kids. The oldest is twenty five and the youngest just turned seventeen. My son and daughter has given us three also. They range in age from almost two to almost seven. Yesterday was the boy's fourth birthday.
If something happened to me anytime soon it's my step daughter's kids who will have and cherish the most memories of me. My poor kid's kids would be saddled with all the stories. I'm sure more than one reprimand would be followed with, "if your grandpa was here......"
I think they said we'll have fourteen over for dinner today. I'll be doing my hamburgers. Only two of the fourteen are mine by the traditional definition. The rest of the adults are friends and families of the kids whom have worked their way into our hearts. The house will be full and it'll probably take me the next year to get all the blessings counted. But then, that's what blessings are for, right?
You really are an old pussycat.
And I've long wanted a shalwar kameez--day pajamas.
"I don't think I have the guts to wear it outside the house."
$20 if you wear it to work and post a picture.
$50 if you do it the next time your paper has a meeting with Muslim community leaders.
I really like the shalwar kameez too--it is pretty much unisex, though the female versions are a lot more colorful and decorative, and you're right, it's great for hot weather, being both comfortable and modest (and, in the female versions, can be dressed up like mad!)
A book on how to cook vegetarians! Now that sounds like a good idea.
The problem with vegetarians is that the meat is dry, given their diet. Plus you can't do much with the feet, not even soup -- the Birkenstocks won't come off.
Brine them first.
Steve
I'm glad you've discovered the salwar kameez. I spent a couple of years in Karachi and brought a couple back with me when I returned to the US. I used to wear them in public, but after a certain distancing from my Pakistani life, it began to feel too unnatural to wear them outside. But they are wonderfully comfortable and graceful, and nothing is more dignified than a bearded man in a salwar kameez, vest, and turban (you're one down; now you just need the accoutrements). Anyway, enjoy the outfit.
You can order reasonably priced bespoke salwar kameez online. Technically on ebay they are selling the fabric, but part of completing the transaction is sending them your measurements.
You know, posts like today is why I often come to this blog first when I boot up - it always a rich experience, and gets a man thinking.
Some comments:
1) It's a pleasure to see you enjoying life.
2) Forgot it was Father's Day until somebody yelled "Happy Father's Day!" as we were walking to mass and I was like, huh? Since we started seriously celebrating the liturgical year we've slowly dropped secular holidays and never looked back, and I'm glad for your detailed post helping me keep up on what "normal" people are doing out there (like presents for Father's Day). It seems strange, even absurd to me now, and you help put it all in context.
3) Query: does the Orthodox version of Lent allow fish?
4) The kameez story makes me smile. Did you know the Romans once had their own version of the Punjabi suit, long forgotten? It's the growth of cultural things like Cinco de Mayo and the salwar kameez that mark in no uncertain terms the relentless decay of the West. One can look at the demographics, but yet still not really "feel" it. It's a new dark age; we are in it, grabbing what we can from cultures that still have it going on. Food, clothing, religion, family and marriage relations - it's the wild West fire sale! Bring it on, I say. To paraphrase Huxley...May I offer a toast? To our death!
You should look into getting a kilt. Wearing them in public shouldn't be as much of a challenge for you.
It's official: Rod Dreher is a terrorist sympathizer. Careful, Rod, before Fox News catches on to you.
Kizmet: You should look into getting a kilt. Wearing them in public shouldn't be as much of a challenge for you.
Utili-kilts are pretty popular in the Pacific Northwest, I hear.
As the day closes I consider myself luckier than most. I got a watch and that's nice. I also got a stainless cook set for doing beer chicken with vegetables. That will get a lot of use. It might even cause be to buy beer on occasion.
But the best gift I got this year was from my step daughter. She called to wish me happy fathers day and confirm she is her mother's daughter. The card is in the mail.
You need to consider that her father was a tall thin quiet man and then after he passed away her mother married me. I'm not tall. I'm not thin. And the last thing you would say about me is that I'm quiet. In fact I describe myself this way, "some people can walk into a room and no one will notice. I'm not one of those people." That's a lot for a young lady to get over when she was her daddy's girl.
Almost as good was the one from our adopted son. He came by with a table and extra chairs because we needed them even though he couldn't be here for the dinner. He's a dad and his daughters have plans for their dad.
I could tell he wanted to talk as soon as he arrived. So we went out on the deck and had a conversation. Probably the greatest gift one father can give to another is advice on raising kids. The next best gift a father can give to another is thanks when that advice works.
Today's a good day. I now have that watch I've needed when I can't find the other two I have. It looks like I've got the tools to do chicken with vegetables without soy sauce, a good thing, real good thing.
But most of all it was a keeper kind of day. I'm sure in the near future something will happen that causes me to pause with the kids. I'll reach back for today and hold it close to help me get through whatever it is. That's why I think of it as a keeper kind of day. It keeps us keeping on when things get tough.
But no Fred Sanford t-shirt, huh?
June 15 is Father's day in America? Very nice tradition. In some sense it was Father's day for me too, because it was my father's 60th birthday yesterday. We live in the same town but i don't even know his adress or phone number, even if i got it can't imagine conversation, according to some distant rumours he is alone. Should i ask him how he was doing for the last 20 years? That seems unpolite and rather silly. If he would say he was drinking, should i reply, that's fine, drink on, or maybe recommend to take care of health? All i can invent seems either stupid or embarrassing. Who am i to bother person who is comfortable alone.
It's the growth of cultural things like Cinco de Mayo and the salwar kameez that mark in no uncertain terms the relentless decay of the West. One can look at the demographics, but yet still not really "feel" it. It's a new dark age; we are in it, grabbing what we can from cultures that still have it going on. Food, clothing, religion, family and marriage relations - it's the wild West fire sale!
Posted by: mdavid | June 15, 2008 4:47 PM
Bah humbug! We take the useful stuff from other cultures and discard their baggage.
Yes, John E. Like the way English flourishes by swiping handy words and concepts from other languages, while leaving behind their cumbersome grammatical structures. I can git me a Weltanschauung without assigning it a gender or putting it into the genitive case. Come to think of it, we snitched pajamas from India long before Rod got his shalwar kameez from the Punjab. (By the way, did you know that the "kameez" is related to an Arabic work qamis, meaning shirt, which is related to the Latin camisia, also meaning shirt? But etymologists differ on which came first.)
Mr. Sig's Father's Day presents presented an amusing picture of what he's like, for those in the know: Drunkard's Walk: How Randomness Rules Our Lives, by Leonard Mlodinow; The Art of Learning, by Josh Waitzkin; a new bird feeder (though he had to put it up himself); a hand-blown glass tumbler from Simon Pearce; and "When I Heard the Learned Astronomer," by Walt Whitman, illustrated by Loren Long, with a note from his son: "there were no better parents for me in the whole universe."
It would be easy to deduce some things about him: his love of books, numbers, nature, beauty, the stars, and his family. And it would be easy to guess, as well, that he's loved in return.
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