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Reading gives us the illusion of doing something. I suppose we are, but its something that really only affects our memory and thoughts. We think because we are learning about the faith that we are practicing it. St. James warned us about this kind of dead faith. I for one need all the reminders I can get because I have always enjoyed escaping into a good book and I'm a whole lot more willing to do that than to get up in the morning and pray. Holy Theotokos, pray for us who read too much and do too little.
Anna
July 18, 2008 2:43 PM
I've been learning (experiencing) as a Protestant inquirer into Orthodoxy that this is a classic Western Christian approach. My father is constantly raving about the latest book/author he has read, only to find a new book three months from now. It is a symptom of a largely rational faith (oxymoron?). I suppose the Orthodox could fall into the same trap with reading Saints or contemporary works.
You can know everything about a person and yet not know them at all, like a baseball player's stats. Move, breath, and share bread with them, and you might begin to know them.
AnotherBeliever
July 18, 2008 2:59 PM
Pray for as many hours as I read?! What an impossible proposition. But it gives me pause. I read almost without ceasing. I pray maybe 30 minutes a day - on a good day when I manage both morning and evening prayer, and possibly even Compline. And scripture says we are to PRAY without ceasing.
I should at least consider improving the ratio, or perhaps cutting out some of the less worthy reading.
It is much easier to read about how one should be praying, or living, than to DO it.
Erin Manning
July 18, 2008 5:34 PM
This is why I find St. Therese of Lisieux's approach so helpful. Few people outside of the cloister have three, four, five hours a day set aside just for prayer; but we can make everything we do a prayer, and grow in holiness that way.
Anonymous
July 18, 2008 6:52 PM
Does lectio divina count as prayer or reading, or both?
George
July 18, 2008 8:58 PM
Decades ago a friend would say, "I was praying about you yesterday at the mall." What he meant was that he was thinking about me. I dismissed that as did others to whom I would mention it. But years later I realized that God is always watching and listening and we would be wise to be aware of that. If we behave -- think, say -- as if He were not in the room, we separate ourselves from Him. If we acknowledge His awareness reverently in all we say and do, is that not prayer?
Where do we draw the line on prayer? Must it be a spoken, formal address? Is a hymn a prayer? A worship song? What makes words or feelings not prayer? Perhaps the key is in our focus and awareness on/of Who is listening as we experience the communication.
True, Jesus did remove Himself from his companions so that He might pray without distraction. Even so, I am convinced He's listening always.
michael
July 19, 2008 12:36 AM
My experience is that book-oriented, doctrine-oriented Christians are not necessarily more Christlike than those who rarely read. Books, confessions of faith, etc, are roadmaps. They are not the journey itself. Christianity at its best is about making the journey, not endlessly poring over the maps. So I agree with the idea that praying, serving, etc is a step above simply reading.
Matthew
July 21, 2008 10:58 AM
Concerning "Praying without ceasing", for the Orthodox, this is where the Jesus Prayer, otherwise known as the Prayer of the Heart comes in.
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Reading gives us the illusion of doing something. I suppose we are, but its something that really only affects our memory and thoughts. We think because we are learning about the faith that we are practicing it. St. James warned us about this kind of dead faith. I for one need all the reminders I can get because I have always enjoyed escaping into a good book and I'm a whole lot more willing to do that than to get up in the morning and pray. Holy Theotokos, pray for us who read too much and do too little.
I've been learning (experiencing) as a Protestant inquirer into Orthodoxy that this is a classic Western Christian approach. My father is constantly raving about the latest book/author he has read, only to find a new book three months from now. It is a symptom of a largely rational faith (oxymoron?). I suppose the Orthodox could fall into the same trap with reading Saints or contemporary works.
You can know everything about a person and yet not know them at all, like a baseball player's stats. Move, breath, and share bread with them, and you might begin to know them.
Pray for as many hours as I read?! What an impossible proposition. But it gives me pause. I read almost without ceasing. I pray maybe 30 minutes a day - on a good day when I manage both morning and evening prayer, and possibly even Compline. And scripture says we are to PRAY without ceasing.
I should at least consider improving the ratio, or perhaps cutting out some of the less worthy reading.
It is much easier to read about how one should be praying, or living, than to DO it.
This is why I find St. Therese of Lisieux's approach so helpful. Few people outside of the cloister have three, four, five hours a day set aside just for prayer; but we can make everything we do a prayer, and grow in holiness that way.
Does lectio divina count as prayer or reading, or both?
Decades ago a friend would say, "I was praying about you yesterday at the mall." What he meant was that he was thinking about me. I dismissed that as did others to whom I would mention it. But years later I realized that God is always watching and listening and we would be wise to be aware of that. If we behave -- think, say -- as if He were not in the room, we separate ourselves from Him. If we acknowledge His awareness reverently in all we say and do, is that not prayer?
Where do we draw the line on prayer? Must it be a spoken, formal address? Is a hymn a prayer? A worship song? What makes words or feelings not prayer? Perhaps the key is in our focus and awareness on/of Who is listening as we experience the communication.
True, Jesus did remove Himself from his companions so that He might pray without distraction. Even so, I am convinced He's listening always.
My experience is that book-oriented, doctrine-oriented Christians are not necessarily more Christlike than those who rarely read. Books, confessions of faith, etc, are roadmaps. They are not the journey itself. Christianity at its best is about making the journey, not endlessly poring over the maps. So I agree with the idea that praying, serving, etc is a step above simply reading.
Concerning "Praying without ceasing", for the Orthodox, this is where the Jesus Prayer, otherwise known as the Prayer of the Heart comes in.
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