Or so it would seem, per this discovery by Frank Beckwith, who found that Myers criticized the Danish newspapers for publishing the Muhammad cartoons. Here's part of what Myers said at the time:
Muslims represent a poor and oppressed underclass, and those cartoons represent a ruling establishment intentionally taunting them and basically flipping them off. They have cause to be furious!
Ah, simply publishing a cartoon drawing of Muhammad in a non-Muslim country causes Prof. Myers to sympathize with the Islamic fanatics. But it's okay to solicit someone to steal the most precious thing to tens of millions of American Christians -- what they (we) believe to be God in the flesh -- for the sake of publicly desecrating it.
This is no surprise, of course. For men like P.Z. Myers, there is no infamy that Christians don't deserve. I am not the least bit surprised, or offended, when someone doesn't believe in the religious doctrines I hold. Why should I be? Why should anyone be? If Myers wrote a paper saying the doctrine of the Eucharist is the worst kind of nonsense, and people are idiots if they believe it, so what? He's wrong, but it's a fair argument to put, and there's nothing wrong with him making that argument.
But I am honestly shocked that a university professor would engage in an act of such outright bigotry and contempt as what Myers has done here: to deliberately seek to profane what many Christians hold sacred, simply for the sake of offending them. Myers is, of course, perfectly within his legal rights to undertake such a stunt. I don't believe in the concept of "hate crimes," so I would oppose any attempt to use the state to sanction him. Nevertheless, it is impossible to believe that a professor could engage in this sort of disgusting bigotry against Jews, Muslims or any other religious group without strong censure from his institution, and others. If Myers asked people to bring him a Koran or a Torah scroll so he could film himself defiling them, I would be outraged, and would expect other decent people to be as well.
I invite readers who agree with me to contact the University of Minnesota, Morris chancellor and respectfully make your views known to her. Does she find Myers's actions in this matter to reflect the values of U of M-M? What are the values of U of M in this respect? According to the UMM-M mission statement:
UMM attracts and serves a student body, faculty and staff reflective of our multicultural society. The college empowers the campus community to participate fully and thoughtfully in a diverse society, regionally, nationally, and globally.
And a professor asking people to steal a consecrated Host from a Catholic Church so he can videotape himself desecrating it is consonant with that mission how? Please tell us, Chancellor Jacqueline Johnson.

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No, Professor Myers does not hate Christians exclusively! He desecrated Dark Knight. Batman is my savior and Batmania is my religion. After he tossed a frackin' cracker in the trash with some coffee grounds and banana peel, he ruined the work of other false prophets like Mohammed and Dawkins--that was all well and good with me, but the very next day he trashed *my* god, Bruce Wayne/Batman! Shame on Myers.
Houghton writes: "Those who think of themselves as "brights" will now start behaving in increasingly nakedly aggressive ways in America and the rest of the West. There won't be a need to "spiritualize" at that point, because the snarling rage and violent attacks we'll witness will be quite open for all to see."
But it's not Myers who has promoted violence or criminal activity, it's the Catholics who have been sending him death threats and threats of violence against his children, yet where is your condemnation of that?
A "Fr. J", posting at Pharyngula, made a similar remark to the above, and tried to claim that the recent attempted attack on a Christian radio station on College Station, PA was by an atheist--when in fact the man was a mentally ill Christian off his meds. Similarly, the attack on the Unitarian Universalist church in Tennessee was a Christian who thought the UU's were "too liberal" and because they aren't anti-gay. And the FBI's primary suspect for the 2001 anthrax attacks who just killed himself was a Catholic.
Francis Beckwith: "According to PZ, Catholic outrage is unwarranted, but Muslim outrage is, though the latter hurt their cause because they resort to violence. Muslims are portrayed as victims, albeit irrational and misguided, who harm their cause by overreacting. Catholics are told by PZ to remain completely silent and speak only when spoken to as they sit in the back of the secular bus."
Where has P.Z. Myers criticized Catholics for being outraged, as opposed to criticizing them for issuing death threats, threatening the lives of his children, trying to get him fired from his job, trying to get Webster Cook and his friend expelled from the University of Central Florida, and for saying things that are idiotic, like the Confraternity of Catholic Clergy's laughably absurd statement about the meaning of the First Amendment. You should give that statement a read.
Correction to my last--Jim Adkisson, the UU shooter in Tennessee, appears to have been some sort of conservative anti-Christian as well as anti-gay and anti-liberal. Substitute for him Chad Conrad Castagana, arrested last year for sending fake anthrax and death threats to Rep. Nancy Pelosi, Jon Stewart, David Letterman, Sen. Charles Schumer, and Keith Olbermann.
Indeed, FULL CONTEXT", Scotth.
Let's see here:
Pox-ridden houses
Category: Godlessness • Politics
Posted on: February 4, 2006 2:25 PM, by PZ Myers
I haven't commented on those Muslim cartoons so far. I'm conflicted.
Why, you might ask? It's a clear-cut case of religious insanity, exactly the sort of thing I ought to relish wagging an arrogantly atheistical finger at. And of course I will, in just a moment…but the difficult part is that there are actually at least two issues here, and religion is only one of them.
There are some things a cartoonist would be rightly excoriated for publishing: imagine that one had drawn an African-American figure as thick-lipped, low-browed, smirking clown with a watermelon in one hand and a fried chicken drumstick in the other. Feeding bigotry and flaunting racist stereotypes would be something that would drive me to protest any newspaper that endorsed it—of course, my protests would involve writing letters and canceling subscriptions, not rioting and burning down buildings. There is a genuine social concern here, I think. Muslims represent a poor and oppressed underclass, and those cartoons represent a ruling establishment intentionally taunting them and basically flipping them off. They have cause to be furious!
I've seen the cartoons, and they are crude and uninteresting—they are more about perpetuating stereotypes of Muslims as bomb-throwing terrorists than seriously illuminating a problem. They lack artistic or social or even comedic merit, and are only presented as an insult to inflame a poor minority. I don't have any sympathy for a newspaper carrying out an exercise in pointless provocation.
So on the one hand I see a social problem being mocked, but on the other—and here comes the smug godless finger-wagging—I see a foolish superstition used as a prod to mock people, and a people so muddled by the phony blandishments of religion that they scream "Blasphemy!" and falsely pin the problem on a ridiculous insult to a non-existent god, rather than on the affront to their dignity as human beings and citizens. Religion in this case has accomplished two things, neither one productive: it's distracted people away from the real problems, which have nothing at all to do with the camera-shy nature of their imaginary deity, and it's also amplified the hatred.
It also doesn't help that their riots are confirming the caricatures rather than opposing them. Once again, religiosity turns people into mindless frenzied zombies, and once again it interferes with progress.
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Somehow, people are assuming from this that I'm "sympathetic to Islam". How, I don't know; I thought I'd always been quite clear in my contempt for all religion, and I thought the last two paragraphs above were plain enough. I am sympathetic to the problem of being a minority immigrant; that's one issue that is being ignored too much. As I said, the real problem is being exacerbated by bad religion that amplifies the hate.
I really don't think a Muslim would find me to be a friend to their religion.
Perhaps not a friend, but certainly given to PC mush and slush of the variety where this is what we call a "distinction without a difference."
So let's see here. Per PZ, he has disdain for ALL religion, and makes much mockery of Christianity when ever he gets to tap out yet more on an almost daily basis. On one occasion accusing Christian religion in the military for fostering a level of violence to the point where he'd have to do a double take on the whole Separation of Church and State issue, since obviously hateful Christians make the Pentagon's machinery of death work so well...
And YET, we are NOT to mock Islam, or make it's many adherents uncomfortable, or risk dissing them. These mostly mild representations of the Prophet are responsible for murder and mayhem and burn downs, and yet PZ takes the line that we need to toe the line here and watch out, lest we become insensitive to the needs of minority immigrants. How nice. Pay homage to Muslim psychoses all the while saying nothing about one more NEA sponsored Piss Christ art exhibit paid for by the public dime.
Thanks for saying nothing, Scotth.
I'll take Lippard on his word, and in turn PZ Myers', that some Catholics have threatened him. But Myers' actions in taunting are actually worse than what he critiques as bad journalism in regards to the Danish cartoons. Certainly they are no better than those editors. I call hypocrisy. While PZ's not advocating any violence that I can tell, I must first point out his hatred of Christianity is palpable and noteworthy, whereas his PC sidestep of saying we dare not goad some other religion smacks of grotesque hypocrisy.
Is this charge of hypocrisy avoided if one is an immigrant supposedly langusing in a new society and not getting along to well with the local folks? Does the occasional suspicion of the religion of Mohammed sometimes earn its billing in the disdain department?
Just maybe?
Muslims represent a poor and oppressed underclass, and those cartoons represent a ruling establishment intentionally taunting them and basically flipping them off. They have cause to be furious!
What an asinine statement....Dr. Myers...
I don't have any sympathy for a newspaper carrying out an exercise in pointless provocation.
He cannot know for certain there was no point to the provocation.
And let me guess, HIS mockery and provocation and that of the NEA's "art" on the public dime has some larger "point" to make with the public?
Of course it does. I'm sure.
Dung and photos are art, as are urine soaked crosses.
Cartoons NEVER have any larger meaning, now do they?
I see a foolish superstition used as a prod to mock people, and a people so muddled by the phony blandishments of religion that they scream "Blasphemy!" and falsely pin the problem on a ridiculous insult to a non-existent god, rather than on the affront to their dignity as human beings and citizens.
He's now concerned about the human dignity of the individual person for Muslims, but not the feelings of those Christians he mocks in print on an almost daily basis? Is print a better medium (or safer?) than newspaper cartoons?
The other problem here though, just to be clear, is that contra his take on this being about a "ridiculous" insult to a faux god, the insult--as perceived by Muslims--was to the Prophet Mohammed. Not Allah.
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