This year's "niggardly"
Remember the controversy a few years ago in which a white employee of the Washington, DC, city government used the word "niggardly" in a budget meeting (the word means "miserly"), and was fired after some black employees complained that he'd...
My dear sir, I am not surprised at all by this. After all, no one ever said such people qualified as intelligent life !
Your servant,
Lord Karth
I've held all along -- throughout my lifetime since its advent -- that political correctness is nothing short of intellectual bankruptcy. It moves smoothly and easily into moral bankruptcy and political bankruptcy, this story and the "niggardly" case proving the point.
The attitude of entitlement, while exemplified in our economic lives, did not originate there. It is now ubiquitous, and is quickly replacing the moribund concept of courtesy. They are diametric opposites: courtesy must be offered, not demanded. Any claim that starts with "I/we am/are entitled to..." is, in my never humble opinion, the death knell of our society.
PC == Fascism
So are y'all saying that Black folk are just oversensitive about these sorts of things - niggardly and the Klan?
My kids are racists against southern Louisianans. They don't like red pepper sauce.
I believe this is why the gods created lawyers.
You're right, Rod, I won't believe how it ends--because you never told us!
All right, so I was a bit "Axiom"-atic in not following the link to read for myself. The incident reminds me of being called a racist by fellow students who were Black--I'm White--the last one involved a question I had during an undergrad advanced essay writing course. We had just finished reading and discussing Henry Louis Gates, Jr.'s "Colored People" when I asked what makes anyone think their life is interesting enough to write about. That. Was. The. Question. I. Asked. In less than three seconds, a female student shouted, "He didn't ask that when we read White authors." She went on a rant for three minutes about "How dare you. . . " To this day, I don't quite know what I said that was racist. For the record, none of the other Black students in that class seemed offended by my question.
This is nuts
I had to laugh when I read the part about how the book was actually carried in the school library! When I was attending a very conservative religious college back in the 1980's, I got called to the Dean's office because someone had seen me reading a book called "Beyond God the Father" by Mary Daly. He was rather taken aback when I told him I'd checked it out from the school library. There's unfortunately PC fascism on both sides of the political divide. :-(
Yes, this absolutely seems like facism in the name of political correctness. And this suppression of freedom of thought by the politically correct and the ignorant is going to come around to bite the people who are currently enjoying wallowing in moral outrage in the butt, in my opinion.
Wasn't this student's real crime to be interested in a topic that his African-American co-workers might have felt was their sole province? Or perhaps the suggestion that some white people, somewhere, might have been opposed to the Klan was the source of the offense? This should outrage anyone with half a brain.
I never read a book outside of my house without wrapping it in a cover. To keep it clean, of course.
I never read a book outside of my house without wrapping it in a cover. To keep it clean, of course.
For what it's worth, the Purdue Campus involved does not appear to be the main one in West Lafayette, just across the river from me. I hadn't heard a peep of the story and the official names involved are unfamiliar.
The West Lafayette campus is nuts in a different way ("nuts" generally being a relative term when one is dealing with a land grant college full of engineering and agriculture students, like Purdue, with oodles and kaboodles of grad students from all over the globe).
"Lord Karth?" Is "Lord" your given name, or are you British, or what?
Just curious.
Rod:
As a ND grad (1965) I was aware of the story of the routing of the KKK by ND students back in the Twenties. IIRC, the ND students sent the KKK into retreat as they (KKK) came up Notre Dame Avenue in South Bend toward the ND campus.
But, truthfully, I don't know all the details.
Soooo....just ordered from Amazon, the book that our politically-incorrect Keith Sampson was reading.
Sad that the multi-culti diversity crowd at IU-PU Indianapolis are so ignorant of history.
What a collection of boobs!!
Hi, newenglander. The ignorance of history is not the point, I think. It's the unwillingness to believe a view of history that contradicts a sense that one's oppression is so great that no one else's oppression, or resistance to that oppression, could be of any consequence.
Historically, I believe, the Klan were also anti-Catholic and anti-Jewish. I think the source of the offense that this student committed was a sense that he was not "entitled" to learn about a view of history that contradicted the exclusive sense of victimhood of his African-American co-workers. The fact that a university administration colluded in this nonsense is appalling.
That was me, just above. Darn this new formatting.
Confirms what I have long suspected: scratch a PC liberal, and you'll find a Fascist underneath.
The ignorance of history is not the point, I think.
I think that's only partially correct. The real problem is just plain simple ignorance, informed by a hypersensitivity which precludes even mentioning aloud certain words.
I see this same thing in my elementary school children, who have on occasion told me (we're Caucasians) that even mentioning the words "black people" is in and of itself "racist" -- even when the context of the statement itself is demonstrably anti-racist.
There are certain words that cannot be spoken in our society and certain thoughts which may not be thought. Welcome to 1984.
That Daily Telegraph story reminds me of some of the things I don't miss about the British press. The upside of its wilful disregard for elementary fact-checking is that it is somewhat livelier that America's rather staid newspapers. The downside is its ability to transform "An organisation that is partially funded by government grants has published a book that advocates that schools should not be hesitant to report racist incidents to the local education authority, and also suggests that a resistance to foreign foods might be an early indicator of subtly racist attitudes" into "ZOMG TAXPAYERS MONEY IS BEING USED TO REPORT KIDS WHO DON'T LIKE SPICY FOOD TO THE COUNCIL!!!!11eleven"
FBC, meaning this as complementary to your snark (though some may decide to butt heads with you over it)...
Entrenched power, by definition conservatives for their desire to maintain the status quo, is the action that creates PC by reaction. They define the extremes. Scratch both sides and you'll find a fascist rejection of any value in meeting somewhere in the middle.
From where I sit, PC is the joint creation of those conservatives and liberals, whose primary goal is to slap a veneer of feel-good superficiality over the fact that they are doing nothing to address -- let alone resolve -- the root causes.
About the toddler, etc.: On the one hand, the Telegraph is a bit of a silly newspaper - the Times is about the same politically, but more rational. I do think the idea that small children who don't like foreign food should be classed as racist is both stupid and offensive. On the other hand, if children start mocking a child who's brought such food to school for his lunch, then, yes, that could be racist. Personally, I think the word "racist" is over-used, and the objection should really to children behaving discourteously, which laughing at a classmate's curry and chapatis definitely is. This seems only to be an area of discussion, and I think you're reading too much into it.
In most areas, I think the UK is less PC than the USA. I don't think that stuff about someone being reprimanded for reading a book about the KKK would have happened here. I got into trouble once with a group of liberal (I guess) US academics, at a conference, when we were chatting, and they were laughing about new chemical terms being named after cartoon characters, etc. - I said that it's a shame that people don't learn Latin much anymore, and the whole group went silent with horror at what I'd said.
Among Britons, especially older ones, "I don't like foreign food" often acts as a codeword for "I don't like foreigners". That doesn't necessarily apply to toddlers, but racist attitudes can be passed on from parents and grandparents.
Nick, you may have put your finger on it with the "code-word" thing. When we start trying to jump on someone's every word and action in a hypersensitive way that looks for hidden meanings rather than simply asking them what they meant, we do eliminate the possiblity of real dialogue. When people are forced to defend every action or word against the charge of hidden meanings (or, if you like, thought crimes) then real liberty becomes impossible.
Instead of interpreting what someone says in the most negative way, why not simply ask them to say more about what they were talking about?
From where I sit, PC is the joint creation of those conservatives and liberals,
Do you really think so? I just don't see it. Can you give me an example of political correctness from the Right?
No snark intended, I'm just curious to know what you think, Franklin.
FBC, thanks for asking. I avoided additional verbiage in my previous post because in my experience with this topic most people see me abusing a deceased equine... :-)
My observation is based on my action-reaction premise. I hasten to point out that while I am complying with the prevailing usage of "conservative" and "liberal", in this case I mean them to be those who maintain and profit from the status quo (conservative) and those who want to change it (liberal).
Political correctness per se is a liberal construction, no doubt about it at least in my mind. As a person who self-identifies as a liberal -- intended in the status quo sense -- I am especially bitter about it. It permits bias to exist and continue to be applied in the status quo without actually causing -- let alone promoting -- change. My point is that a conservative will "accept" the verbiage of PC while in his own mind continuing and maintaining the meanings and connotations of the usages that PC intends to replace or suppress. I again hasten to add that I don't mean to use a broad brush and accuse every conservative, or even many of them, of using a PC term but thinking the offensive term. It simply serves as a brief way to illustrate my point.
So, "joint creation" is a confusing phrase. I apologize for not extending at least that part of my previous post to something like this: political correctness is a collaborative effort between the liberal creators of PC and the conservatives it targets to place a feel-good veneer over the fact that they are doing nothing to address the root causes. They have jointly created the atmosphere of superficiality we currently "enjoy".
A British person who says "I don't like foreign food" (i.e., "I prefer British food"), probably is suffering from one or another manner of irrational brain function -- if not racism, something else. Why do you think we conquered half the world -- we had to get some decent food.
The term PC actually comes from the Chinese Cultural Revolution (or from Mao's "Little Red Book,") doesn't it? So, anyone who is "politically incorrect," must be corrected, gently, if possible, but ultimately through "re-education camps."
I agree with Franklin, Facism is Facism whether it comes from the Left or the Right.
Wikipedia seems to have a decently researched page on Political Correctness. It apparently has its earlies roots in Marxism.
In my cynical and wholly subjective opinion, fascism is a cancer from which the world is always one step away. It knows no boundaries, not ideological, not national or ethnic, not racial, not religious.
Having supervised Keith, I am convinced that he did this with the knowledge that he would make trouble. Keith is student, yes but he was working as a janitor before he started taking classes. So the "student" is a misnomer, because he actually an employee.
Regardless, knowing that Keith is a troublemaker and a rabble rouser, I can only guess that he was reading the material, not because he sided with Notre Dame, but because he empathized with the Klan. Keith has tried the "reverse discrimination" thing before and failed. He is surrounded by blacks in his line of work, most are his co-workers and others are his supervisors usually.
This was calculated, but he again failed to get any money, which is his true agenda.
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