I had an e-mail exchange this morning with Jim Kunstler, as part of an interview for a project the editorial page is doing on the peak oil controversy. Jim told me that his college audiences across the South are very hostile to his Long Emergency ideas -- a hostility Jim chalks up to their not being happy being told that their car-based way of life is going to change radically. I suspect Jim's right, but then again, I agree with Jim's basic take on the energy situation. We all know that Jim's got a colorful, hyperbolic way of expressing himself, so it's possible that some of the harsh reaction comes from his Old Testament prophetic style.
How can you tell the difference between a visionary and a crank? Here's a list of five benefits to being an outsider with an idea that pisses people off and draws ridicule. Excerpt:
1. A strong reaction means you've hit a nerve. Whether your creativity is expressed in your writing or in the products you create with your business, when people look at you weird :-), like they're afraid that the thing you've created might change people's behavior, that can actually be a good sign. Definitely, the more powerful and unique an idea, the greater chance that it will be opposed by the mainstream public (at first, anyway).2. A violent opposition means that your idea has the potential to change people's lives. Let's face it--ideas are banned because they're considered "dangerous" to the status quo. Any idea that does not have the potential to elicit change in our world in some way will just be ignored, rather than opposed. The more potential an idea has of instigating change, the greater likelihood that it will be challenged.
There are three more.
There's truth in these comments, obviously, but the underlying assumption here seems to be that having a radical idea that changes the status quo is by definition a good thing. It's entirely possible that people hate your radical idea for very good and defensible reasons. Suggesting that National Socialism is the answer to our current economic and social problems is certainly a bold and radical idea, one that would strike a nerve and have the potential to change people's lives. But that doesn't mean it's a good idea.
On the other hand, the idea that we are going to have to learn to live in a fundamentally different way because the oil that we've built our entire modern American civilization around is going to be unavailable to us under the old terms, if at all -- well, that's also a radical idea, and it's a good one if it helps people change in ways that make the inevitable transition less traumatic.
Like all ideas, Kunstler's Long Emergency thesis should be judged by the quality of the data and the reasonableness of its conclusions. But it's really hard to separate emotions from analysis when dealing with ideas which, if true, have profound and far-reaching implications for the way we live individually and in society.
So: how do you tell a visionary from a crank? For first-century Jerusalemites, Jesus of Nazareth was a dangerous crank ... except for the then-minority who believed he was the Son of God. How do we know when we have a true genius among us? As Kierkegaard said, life is understood backward, but has to be lived forward.

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I have spoken to Mr. Kunstler in the past; unfortunately, if James Howard Kunstler's irritable personality and abrasive behavior and language were toned down, maybe more people would listen to him. Nobody wants to listen to someone with a foul mouth or who is angry and frothing at the mouth. Personally, I think he should visit Dr. Phil and see what he can do to change his personal statements to be more convincing to the general public about what is going on in our world without all the "McMansion" antics. After a while it gets old.
Kunstler is mad because he has been documenting our disastrous living arrangements for a long time. If he was a quiet, demure person, he would not enjoy the spot as Peak Oils top spokesman worldwide.
I hope to God things don't go the way he says, but have been reading everything energy related, and peak oil related for many years and think he is pretty close to the mark.
I attend every political, environmental and similar type presentation that happens and talk to most all of the speakers afterward. These great thinkers mostly echo the facts that Kunstler uses to prop up his forecast of our probable future.
Things are really starting to accelerate, so I think we will start finding out very soon how accurate he was in his writings.
jims a great guy and has his facts straight. you spoiled brats dont like the truth. you wont like it either as your toys get taken. if the subject isnt about overpopulation not worth discussing.your kids arent special either in fact you made a mess for their earth. no magic will change that! we are too many and we do nothing but consume crap. its the end of living and the beginning of survival. some night you will and are dying in your own waste. the ones that dont like what jims saying are in denial. look around folks-- thats reality out there and it will only get worse. a suggestion 5 acres and a mule. i'll bet most who disagree with jim are 40 and under! ws, mot
Last year, I went out to the Land Institute near Salina, Kansas, to hear Mr Kunstler talk (amongst other things). I'm from Topeka, and as Kansas is an agricultural state, I wanted to hear his take on how things would turn out. What I heard was a scornful, disdainful view of American culture, how bad it was, and how good it would be to be utterly destroyed as, in his view, it soon would be. Eventually the talk ended, and there was a time for questions, and I asked one, specifically about what would happen to mechanized agriculture in Kansas, and what could be done to change it so that catastrophe were at least partially averted. He entirely evaded my question with a short sarcastic remark about whining farmers, said there was nothing that could be done, and said "Next question!". That was all, it was obvious that he hadn't considered any solutions to the problem - and didn't care. Reading through his books, I get the same attitude, and frankly I see the same from a lot of Peak Oil people. They're all saying that there's a big problem coming, but they're really short on solutions and really long on apocalyptic scenarios.
My take on Mr Kunstler (and anyone else who offers apocalypse without a way out) is that they're cranks. Listening to them is probably worse than doing nothing, because if you get sucked into their game, they'll rob you of any energy to do anything.
Interestingly enough, there are some people in Texas with solutions. They've recently put out a book entitled "Toolbox for Sustainable City Living", by Scott Kellogg and Stacy Pettigrew, of the Rhizome Collective in Austin. The book is published by the South End Press (www.southendpress.org) and costs $16 and is full of solutions worked through by the Rhizome people and put in actual practice. Five pages of this book are worth everything that James Kunstler has ever written. Check it out and write about them, instead.
Their website is www.radicalsustainability.org - and I've got no connection with them whatsoever other than owning their book.
I appreciate reading Rod's take on Jim Kunstler on a conservative blog. I am generally of the more liberal persuasian, but neither of the two major political parties has a monopoly on denial. Neither Democrats nor Republicans have a good energy policy which recognizes the quicksand we're in. May it come to pass that conservatives and liberals find common ground to make the changes we need to preserve the Republic.
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