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Why Yanks love guns -- a British view

Thursday July 10, 2008

Categories: Culture

Alex Massie, the well-known haggis masticator, is perplexed over why his fellow Brits are perplexed at America's love affair with guns. Alex thinks it has to do with the circumstances of the Founding:


Other developed countries - Canada, Switzerland - also enjoy high rates of gun ownership, yet do not suffer American levels of gun violence. But, rather importantly, neither Canada nor Switzerland was founded at the point of a gun. Timing matters. I'd suggest that had the United States been in a position to declare independence from Britain in 1676 rather than a century later, American culture might be rather different. As it was, the revolutionaries launched their war just as guns became sufficiently reliable and affordable to be everyday purchases for "ordinary" people. Swiss independence, of course, pre-dates the gun while Canadian independence was, generally speaking, a peaceful, negotiated affair rather than the consequence of an armed insurrection.

Read the whole thing. I find it quite plausible. His argument is not necessarily that US laws and attitudes towards guns are a good thing, but rather that American freedom was won and order during the pioneer period was maintained with guns -- IOW, that in American folk memory, the gun is not a symbol of violence and oppression, but of ordered liberty.

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Max Schadenfreude
July 11, 2008 12:33 AM

Er, ah, "...on sight."

Shoot one, teach a hundred.

Shoot four or five, teach a multitude.

Anonymous
July 11, 2008 1:45 AM

"Tbh I'd be more convinced about guns preventing crimes if the US had a lower rate of crime than most countries in Europe. Even with 1% of the adult population in jail the crime rates still seems to be higher. "

But crime rates have numerous causes. I would tend to argue that gun ownership decreases most crime rates, but that other factors (race? greater inequality? something else?) lead to higher crime rates in the USA.

Another point is that gun ownership could increase the rates of some crimes and decrease the rates of others. The USA has a high murder rate, which could be linked to gun ownership (although I doubt it). It also has a low burglary rate, which is almost certainly linked to gun ownership. It's a rather usavoury debate, but one might have to decide how many burglaries equals one murder in the nastiness stakes.

Ostrea
July 11, 2008 9:02 AM

Gun ownership is not a "social dysfunction" but beliveing that it is a social dysfunction is itself a social dysfunction.

steve
July 11, 2008 9:19 AM

On site is just as quick Max, probably the most efficient actually.

Steve

Narci
July 11, 2008 12:07 PM

Movie Quote from The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

There are two kinds of people in the world, my friend. Those who have a loaded gun and those who dig.

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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