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Little green spy kids

Thursday August 14, 2008

Categories: Culture, Environment
I'm all for making kids more aware and morally sensitive about environmental stewardship, but green activism in Britain is creepy as hell. Excerpt from the Spiked Online article: Turn Your Parents Green is just one instance of a broader campaign...
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Carey J.
August 14, 2008 10:38 PM

Sounds positively communist to me. But then I've always had problems telling greens from reds.

fish
August 14, 2008 10:42 PM

How fast is Orwell spinning about now?

Lisa
August 14, 2008 10:48 PM

Eco-guilt. Amazing that some people have no problem inflicting it on four year olds.

Lisa
August 14, 2008 10:48 PM

Eco-guilt. Amazing that some people have no problem inflicting it on four year olds.

Paul, seeking wisdom
August 14, 2008 11:11 PM

Since when is telling the kids the truth that our generation is destroying their future wrong? I started telling my children the value of living "green" when they were small and it hasn't turned them into monsters.

If you feel that teaching the "Inconvenient Truth" is Orwellian, then you are living a lie. This month you could take a freighter from Japan to London via the North Pole. Don't you see the earth is in trouble? Northern California is in a draught, and you have no problem with that?

If you Eco-villains don't wake up soon and open your eyes to the facts, The American bread basket will be empty. Grow up and face the facts, the world is getting hotter and it is our fault.

David J. White
August 14, 2008 11:20 PM

It isn't that there is a problem with teaching children the value of "living green". It's that many of us have a problem with teaching children to be informers on their parents, friends, neighbors, etc. Today it's about ecology. Tomorrow it might be about religious practices, political beliefs, etc., etc.

Teaching children to be concerned about the environment is one thing. Turning them into little green Nazis is another.

With almost every passing day I thank God I don't have kids.

Anonymous
August 14, 2008 11:35 PM

Sounds positively communist to me. But then I've always had problems telling greens from reds.

Bingo. This sounds a lot like the stories we used to read in the 1980s about kids lying awake fearing imminent nuclear war ... after their teachers unwittingly fed them propaganda generated by the various "anti-war" Soviet front groups about how dangerous Ronald Reagan was.

Francis Beckwith
August 15, 2008 1:24 AM

The Church of England can't pronounce on the nature of human beings, but the state of England knows full well how human beings ought to treat nature.

Nobody really knows how many animals and plants ought to be on Earth. For this reason, it's the perfect way to gain power: tell people they're doing something wrong without providing them any real guidance on what counts as wrong, leaving it all to the "insights" of experts to decide, though they really don't know either. So, it's a new gnosticism with a new priesthood and new heresy trials.

How many times do the Europeans have to sleep with tyranny before they realize it still won't love them in the morning.

Sheesh!

Erinthebeekeeper
August 15, 2008 7:56 AM

awwwww how sweet

Hitler did the same thing in the 1930s in Germany. Maybe those parents who aren't living green enough will be taken off in the middle of the night to be reeducated about recycling.

Shawn3k
August 15, 2008 8:02 AM

Fascism anyone?

aaron
August 15, 2008 8:19 AM

Nobody really knows how many animals and plants ought to be on Earth. For this reason, it's the perfect way to gain power: tell people they're doing something wrong without providing them any real guidance on what counts as wrong, leaving it all to the "insights" of experts to decide, though they really don't know either. So, it's a new gnosticism with a new priesthood and new heresy trials.

Thanks for my morning comedy, I don't need coffee now.

Nick the Greek
August 15, 2008 8:51 AM

Spiked Online is the latest manifestation of what used to be Living Marxism magazine. Despite its former name, it's views are closer to what one Distributist of my (internet) acquaintance called "vulgar libertarianism" than to Marxism. That doesn't make the story untrue, of course, I mention it because I think one should always be aware of the biases of one's source when reading a story like this.

Chris
August 15, 2008 8:53 AM

And when they become pimply, rebellious teen-agers and look for the most glaring case of adult spoon-feeding to rebel against, what's going to be their first target?

And when that happens, they'll probably throw out the entire message, not just the excesses. How productive will this end up being, long term?

Anonymous
August 15, 2008 10:29 AM

I didn't read the article Rod liked to, but I don't think enlisting schoolchildren in whatever-cause-of-the-day is anything new. In the mid-1960s every child in my big-city public elementary school was sent home with envelopes from the American Cancer Society exhorting "Send A Mouse to College!" (for cancer research), with a graphic list of symptoms on one side of the envelope. (Never mind the few children, like me, who sensed that this wouldn't be good for the mouse.) After our parents had contributed (I can't remember how many did), we were also encouraged to persuade them to stop smoking, which of course they would compliantly do because their children had told them to. The instructions to get our parents to quit intensified as the 1960s went on, and a few years later there was almost as much of a fuss about littering (no one in my family ever littered, so I resented this). As I say, nothing very new.

Scott Walker
August 15, 2008 12:41 PM

Paul, seeking wisdom, if you really are seeking wisdom, you might want to google "Cryosphere Today". Then you might want to browse the archive of polar satellite images for 2008. (Look around. You'll find them.) Then you might want to reconsider posting such unmitigated horsesh#t as "This month you could take a freighter from Japan to London via the North Pole." Uh, no you can't. Not unless you pull the freaking boat with one huge mother of a dogsled team. Now, the Northwest Passage is indeed open, as it frequently is. Roald Amundsen navigated it successfully way back in the day. The Northwest Passage is hundreds of miles south of the Pole. You are speaking twaddle, sir, and darkening counsel.

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December 22, 2008 12:15 AM
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