Crunchy Con

My chicken problem -- and ours

Wednesday August 27, 2008

Categories: Agrariana, Culture
Great news -- Culture11.com has launched! It's the new Slate-ish site for conservatives, put out by our friends David Kuo, James Poulos and others. I'm really excited about it. I'm a contributor to Culture11, and have begun with an...
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Anonymous
August 27, 2008 7:48 AM

Webspeak cliches be damned, ROTFLMAO!

Linda
August 27, 2008 8:37 AM

Great article, Rod! There was a British TV show about urban farming that ran on our local PBS station awhile back, called "Good Neighbors." http://valdefierro.com/neighbors.html If you haven't seen it, you should look for it on DVD; it's funny, and poignant, too, as they struggle for total self-sufficiency in an urban environment.

Scott Lahti
August 27, 2008 10:46 AM

Good Neighbors? Heavens - almost thirty years ago it was, when it first ran on our own local PBS affiliate, and I shared a crush on Felicity Kendal with, it seemed, millions of young-male Britcom watchers from Ketchikan to Keokuk - and all I got was this lousy tote bag, and dreams of mucking about in backyard Essex suburbia in knee-high wellies, steaming up the chicken coops with Kendal's Barbara Good while Tom was safely off traipsing across the village high-street cobblestones in search of overalls and fresh straw...

MH
August 27, 2008 10:55 AM

I feel compelled to ask "Why Culture 11?" Is it some sort of Spinal Tap reference like "Our culture goes to 11", or do you like prime numbers?

I've been really tempted to bring up "Good Neighbors" even since the chickens showed up but I was afraid it might be too obscure. Now that someone else has, I'll second the suggestion. I love the scene where Tom barters for a newspaper with eggs while a third person watches totally bewildered. Great comedy.

Ann
August 27, 2008 12:47 PM

"Good Neighbors" was absolutely delicious. Their social-climbing well-off friends' loving-but-appalled reaction to all these activities was a great part of the charm. Would love to see it again. Not enough available on video. Have to persuade the PBS stations to run it again in light of the upsurge in urban farming.

Mike
August 27, 2008 1:29 PM

Great article, Rod. I think this is probably the most important bit of Crunchy Conservative writing you've done since the book itself.

As a fellow practitioner of suburban chicken husbandry, and a front-yard vegetable gardener, I completely identify with the necessity of having to confront one's own fallibilty and the anxiety that comes from putting that same fallibility so publically on display to one's neighbors.

You've written often of the cultural changes that occurred in the '60's and their aftermath. I think one of the most unfortunate consequences is that people have begun to recoil from one another. We've lost faith and trust in one another because deep down we don't really have any faith in ourselves. We don't have to because we have experts and specialists to take care of everything, and no external pressures to keep us in line.

Which brings me to the next challenge after you get over your fear of failure - staying motivated in the long term. Few of us really need to be doing this, and it is an enormous amount of work. This is where I've come to feel that cultural, and specifically religious observances can be of great use. I myself don't practice any particular religion, but increasingly I plan my gardening around having certain significant things available for harvest in time for certain religious holidays. There is a deep and rich well of traditional knowledge and wisdom to be tapped here. Your chicks should begin laying sometime around next Easter. The egg obviously has significance to that season.

I keep hoping that eventually Crunchy Conservatism will become dedicated to discussing these kind of things, but too often it's caught up the news of the day. That's fine and well, but there is more to life than that. We need there to be more than that. Sometimes doing things for symbolic reasons is necessary.

Rod Dreher
August 27, 2008 1:58 PM

Watcher, I've deleted your post, as you apparently can't make a point without degenerating into personal attacks. That's the second time you've done that on this board today. One more time and you're banned.

Alicia
August 27, 2008 3:05 PM

I agree with Mike, Rod. That's one of your very best articles, and I think you ask yourself exactly the right questions, but exactly. The "Jean de Florette" syndrome (just saw the movie in my movie club two months back, as one of the characters said, "wine and dynamite do not mix").

I especially like the bit about tethering an elephant with a little tiny rope at the ankle. That is really a deep observation, and true of so many of us, who have so much potential and power, but who are constrained by neurosis and by ingrained "thou shalt nots" from the past.

Thanks for this, Rod.

Scott Lahti
August 27, 2008 3:43 PM

What Mike just said. It was as if he were channelling Wendell Berry, especially in his third paragraph. As I dab my eyes a bit with the corners of one of Dave Letterman's index cards, I recall an old line from his NBC days: "We were tired - but it was a good kind of tired."

And I hope to heaven Alicia's mention of Jean de Florette triggers you all to watch it, and especially its sequel, Manon des Sources (Manon of the Spring), which haunts me even more. Beauty at its purest - and not just for the Blakean divinity of seeing Emmanuelle Béart bathing in a brook...*

*from Songs of Innocence promptings, I promise, not from my Dark Satanic Mills...

MargaretE
August 27, 2008 4:16 PM

Beautiful piece, Rod. It really hit home. Thank you. I'll definitely bookmark Culture 11.

Susan Davis
August 27, 2008 6:35 PM

The Spinal Tap reference occurred to me, too. It's certainly cheerier than thinking 11 refers to "the eleventh hour."

Watcher
August 27, 2008 8:31 PM

Ok, Rod. Have it your way. But I STILL WISH YOU'D GROW A SPINE.

You are the guy in charge... You choose what you allow and what you don't. But for some reason, it seems you're perfectly willing to smile and never comment on people who come here and declare conservatism a character defect, or that all conservatives are racist, etc.

You allow the most personally insulting, denigrating, and offensive liberal steretypes to go unchallenged, uncensored. The whole of beliefnet seriously challenges my ability to remain even slightly calm, with it's endless repetition, aimed personally DIRECTLY at people who believe as I do, with the most UN Christian and UN kind and IN tolerant language, implications, and outright accusations, along with the standard aforementioned "stereotypical assumptions".

With few exceptions, even the blog owners here would NEVER pass my mother's "sniff test". She'd say that people who engage in that kind of talk about others are ... well, let's say it's not good.

Am I abrasive? Sure. I used to be the most diplomatic and kind and "understanding" of debaters, until I realized that I was being nice to people who hate my guts with a deadly passion. They wished I was dead, and some have even threatened to attempt that end...

Why should conservatives bother being "nice"? Liberals do not. They hate, with unending, unabashed, and unapologetic vehemence all who do not conform to their orthodoxy. They seem to consider disagreement personal affront. They don't just want their ideas to win, they want to defeat others and force themselves and their dogma upon them.

But let me guess at what you got all bothered about... Your comments about Hillary and if she'd been this way, she'd get elected kind of comment.

Rod, that is the most incredibly INFURIATING insult thrown at the American people I have read in a long time. And from you? How could you? Hillary lies. She's shallow. She's arrogant. She's utterly out of touch. She's a self-important and presumtuous lib. And to think that if she'd just have better packaging and be more "on the attack" she should or would win the hearts of the people? What KIND of people? Anyone who falls for that, or is PRESUMED to fall for it? That's an insult!

Nothing said at the DNC convention is ANYTHING BUT AN INSULT. We know they're dishonest, we know they're self-serving politicians, with nil for real human concerns governing their decisions and statements and even policy ramblings.

We laugh at Obama's shallow emptiness. And then presume that the public in general can't see it. How insulting to the public.

So, I dare you. Raise the level if you wish. But RAISE IT. Really raise it. Grow a spine. Tell the libs "this is right, this is wrong, walk this way." If you don't want mud flung, don't fling it. Tell EVERYONE what the real standards are, and then STICK TO THEM for all.

Apply serious judgement, Rod. It's good to know you're at least reading, though. I just wish you had some real stones in your gut. Go forth and do battle, fearlessly. Got it?

Linda
August 28, 2008 9:47 AM

Glad to see some fans of "Good Neighbors" over here!

Remember the episode where Tom's chicken gets away? He chases it through the neighborhood, and catches up to it just in time to see it step onto a bus--pure comedy gold! But it gets serious many, many times, as the Goods face one setback after another, addressing issues Rod raised about fear of looking foolish and failing to live out one's convictions.

Maybe if the urban farming trend takes hold in Dallas, our PBS affiliate will run it again, with Rod and his associate J at the newspaper leading the campaign to get it back on the air.

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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