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Obama as Antichrist liberal freakout

Friday August 8, 2008

Categories: Democrats, Evangelicals
Amy Sullivan of Time writes about fears that Team McCain is trying to stoke fears of Christians who worry that Barack Obama is the Antichrist. Excerpt: Perhaps the most puzzling scene in the ad is an altered segment from The...
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Franklin Evans
August 8, 2008 1:37 PM

If Obama becomes president, and has to undergo the usual criticism that presidents do, they're all going to spontaneously combust trying to police the heretics.

I should think that Obama could take lessons from Bush, who when he became president began to demonize every type of criticism, and succeeded in immunizing his administration from the very consent of the governed he swore to uphold, an oath he took twice.

Yes, every set of criticism has a subset of unwarranted and even silly members. That is not the point, and should never be the point. Dissent is the lifeblood of any republic. Our anemia is quite easy to see.

gmo2
August 8, 2008 1:57 PM

Yes, those silly liberals...why the conservatives would never do such things...like complain about the MSM's treatment of McCain when McCain was the darling of MSM for years, or how the comment that McCain lost his bearings was age discrimination...yes, conservatives are above such silliness. LOL. Both sides do the same thing.

Frog Leg
August 8, 2008 2:23 PM
I'm lovin' it. Honestly, the utter freakout of media liberals about those half-baked McCain ads is hilarious to watch. These are the same people who have built Obama up as a secular messiah who's going to come save us from the wicked legacy of Chimpy McBushitler, and when McCain starts to poke fun at the pop sanctimony surrounding Obama's image, these folks can't handle the teasing.

Obama had a quote earlier about McCain debating McCain. This is Rod debating Rod. It certainly reaches the same level of solipsism.

AMG
August 8, 2008 2:50 PM

So what do you think McCain is doing, just wasting his money on half-baked ads? Hmm, I'm getting the impression these ads (including the Paris/Britney one) are throughly considered to reach a particular audience, and it's not the liberals who you say are freaking out.

Rich
August 8, 2008 3:36 PM

If this article (and the Bob Herbert meltdown) are any indication, then news reporting and editorials over the next couple of months should have a high level of awesomeness.

Other Jim
August 8, 2008 4:05 PM

I've heard some religiously-oriented conservatives refer, in all seriousness, to Obama as the anti-Christ. I think its fair to say that people who are out of touch with religion really don't understand how a small percentage of the faithful react to hearing someone described as the Messiah.

Rob G
August 8, 2008 4:26 PM

"...the people who think Obama might be the Antichrist and the people who think the McCain campaign is cannily designing its campaign ads to exploit fears that Obama might be the Antichrist deserve each other."

Yep, absolutely true. Both groups need a reality check, big-time.

BTW, I thought the clip from 'The Ten Commandments' was the funniest bit in an otherwise lame commercial.

AML
August 8, 2008 5:21 PM

Thanks for the link. I went and watched "The One" again, and bookmarked to send to my friends who have a sense of humor. Hilarious!

"We are the ones we've been waiting for".

"This is the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow...."

He said it. You can't make this stuff up.


Bruce Wilson
August 8, 2008 5:52 PM

Rod, I don't know if you are aware of this or not - but Pastor John Hagee, whose political endorsement McCain renounced following the breakout of my viral video showcasing John Hagee's claim that "God sent Hitler", has stated (in a March 2003 sermon ) that the Antichrist will be gay, German and "partly Jewish - as was Adolf Hitler, as was Karl Marx" [note - it's very unlikely Hitler was 'partly Jewish' and Marx was raised a Lutheran].

Regardless of any "liberal freak out" over the McCain campaign ad in question, anti-semitic narratives are in the process of being mainstreamed in American culture. John McCain's devoted (2-3 year long) and very public project of building a working relationship with Christian leaders such as Jerry Falwell and Pastor John Hagee, in the lead up to the 2008 election, is a good starting point for that claim.

trotsky
August 8, 2008 6:01 PM

Wait, so there are people who think Obama is the antichrist?

Loudon is a Fool
August 8, 2008 6:33 PM

Bruce, the post is about Obama as "AntiChrist." Not McCain as Anti-Semite. I guess when you see the leters A-N-T-I you get a little edgy, but you can stand down. McCain doesn't like Vietnamese people but he likes Jews. I understand that one of his best friends is Jewish, in fact.

Cosmo Krammer
August 8, 2008 11:37 PM

Ronald Wilson Reagan.....666.......He will rise again to start the final conflict .....don't say you haven't been warned!

Thor
August 9, 2008 1:31 AM

I found the ad to be funny because it took Obama's words and used them against them. If Obama and his faithful didn't want this kind of mockery, they shouldn't have provided the ammunition. I certainly don't believe any U.S. President will ever be the Anti-Christ, whatever their party affiliation. Reading the Time article, I do hope McCain wasn't deliberately trying to spin up a tacky Left Behind parallel.

However, I would love one of those "O: The Anti-Christ" t-shirts mentioned in the article, not because I believe that's the case, but because it would irritate people that have an unrealistic view of Obama. In the end, he's just a politician, albeit one with more oratory skill than President Bush.

Carey J.
August 9, 2008 7:54 AM

Is Obama the Antichrist? No. Is Obama anti-Christ? Maybe. 20 years of hanging around with the Wrong Reverend Jeremiah Wright would leave anyone with a bizarre view of Christ, at best. Indeed, most of the people Obama associates with are not what I'd call witnesses for Christ. Yes, I know politicians aren't saints, but even for politicians, Obama's "mentors" are an unsavory lot.

The unbelievable arrogance of His Obamaness, Barak I, is completely at odds with most peoples' notion of a proper Christian attitude.

VA Good Ol' Boy
August 9, 2008 10:14 AM

Um. . .Rod. . .many Evangelicals and others familiar with end time prophecy and the Left Behind series saw the same thing that the Dems pointed out here. This is not saying that most Evangelicals believe that Obama is the Anti-Christ. This is not to say that McCain and his ad gurus think that Obama is the Anti-Christ. What it does say is that there is a clear and purposeful connection between the imagry and themes of that ad and Anti-Christ prophecy and the Left Behind series. Heck, the author of the Left Behind series himself said he thought the imagry in the ad was very similar to the cover art of his books. If you don't see it, you either don't have a good understanding of the Bible or your just don't want to see it. I'm as conservative as they come but to deny the connections just makes us look ignorant or cynical.

DavidTC
August 9, 2008 12:05 PM

Other Jim
I've heard some religiously-oriented conservatives refer, in all seriousness, to Obama as the anti-Christ. I think its fair to say that people who are out of touch with religion really don't understand how a small percentage of the faithful react to hearing someone described as the Messiah.

The people out of touch with reality are those people who think it's Obama's fault that the right are sarcastically calling him the Messiah. Obama has never called himself that, he'd, quite rightly, be crucified (ha) for it.

Rob G
August 9, 2008 12:50 PM

"If you don't see it, you either don't have a good understanding of the Bible or your just don't want to see it."

There is, of course, a third option, which is the fact that if you're not familiar with the whole "end time Bible prophecy" gig, you wouldn't see it. In that sense if the reference is intentional, it's intentioned towards a rather small and limited group of Evangelicals and not towards conservative Christians at large.

Rich
August 9, 2008 2:26 PM

VA Good Ol' Boy
There are plenty of Christians who don't believe in the rapture or other end times "Left Behind" stuff. The church in which I was raised believed the prophecies of the Revelation were about events that happened in the first century, and that's a pretty common belief amongst a lot of Christian sects. Saying people "don't have a good understanding of the Bible" if they don't see end times symbolism is a bit presumptuous. Maybe they just don't have a good understanding of the collected works of Tim Lahaye.

Other Jim
August 10, 2008 7:22 AM

DavidTC
The people out of touch with reality are those people who think it's Obama's fault that the right are sarcastically calling him the Messiah. Obama has never called himself that, he'd, quite rightly, be crucified (ha) for it.

They would be correct, it's not Obama's fault. But it is the fault of his supporters, not his enemies.

DavidTC
August 10, 2008 11:45 AM

Other Jim
They would be correct, it's not Obama's fault. But it is the fault of his supporters, not his enemies.

Ah, yes, his supporters are calling him the Messiah.

Wait, no they aren't.

Even if we assume that they think he's the most amazing person in the world and none of them is worthy to lick his boots, the irreverence of calling him the Messiah is not coming from them, it is coming from people attacking him.

Robin Thomas
August 10, 2008 12:52 PM

Obama and co. asked for this. His beatific platitudes BEG for mockery. He's just another politician who talks out of both sides of his mouth.

Ministry of Silly Walks
August 15, 2008 12:49 AM

"In that sense if the reference is intentional, it's intentioned towards a rather small and limited group of Evangelicals and not towards conservative Christians at large."

Um, starting with "The Late Great Planet Earth" in the 1970's and continuing on with "The Left Behind" series, millions upon millions of books about the "end-time Bible prophecy gig" have been sold. This is not a "small and limited" group of evangelicals. Further, they are a critical part of the base that is distrustful of McCain, and whom he needs to appeal to if he wants to have any hope of winning this election.

I don't think it is paranoid at all to entertain the possibility that McCain would dogwhistle the prophecy-addled masses, while at the same time creating a humorous parody of Obama's overblown rhetoric that speaks to a more general audience. Surely, you must admit that these folks are smart enough to create ads that work on several levels at once, especially given the multi-million dollar investment that campaign ads represent.

Will
November 4, 2008 12:45 AM

You have to read 'The Man Who Would Be King: Why Every Christian in America needs to seriously consider who Barack Obama could actually be."

It was prepared by Christian Apologist Wes Hazlett and it will blow the doors off your mind.

I got half way through it and I was stunned at what the meaning of the monkey god really is and was quite surpised that Obama carries an idol of this hindu god in his pocket.

Marie
November 8, 2008 2:52 PM

I was an Obama supporter and am a Christian democrat and many Christians are concerned that Obama is the antichrist, black, white, Hispanics, etc. I have prayed long and hard on this issue as I hope that other Christians will do as well. My concern really grew when his grandmother died a day before the election and a choked up Obama gave a speech a day before the election saying that he prayed that she would have lived to see him elected president. However Obama’s grandmother was sent home from the hospital a day before the election. When my loved one was in intensive care and they gave us a choice as to send him home to die or try to keep him alive in the hospital we chose to try to keep him alive and the doctors resuscitated several ill patients while we visited in the unit. It is odd to me and others that his grandmother was not kept in the hospital to be kept alive at least one more day to see her grandson elected president as anyone in the world would want to be kept alive for 1 more day under those circumstances. I cried when I heard Obama speak about his grandmother’s death, I am sure many voters felt for him and his family as well. I say this not to cause any pain to anyone but only because this has caused me many sleepless nights as a Christian and I would like to know that I supported a good person for President and not the Antichrist. If anyone knows why Obama’s grandmother was sent home from the hospital a day before the election, pls post and put our minds to rest.

Marie
November 8, 2008 3:43 PM

Correction to comment above:

Obama’s Grandmother was released a few weeks before the election and we would like to know why. Since many patients are kept alive for several weeks to years in the hospital. Pls post. If you know.

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