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Screw FEMA, call the Boy Scouts

Saturday August 30, 2008

Categories: Varia
We had to go run some errands this afternoon. When we got back, Julie checked her e-mail and found that the den mother for Matthew's Cub Scout troop sent out an urgent request for Scouts to come to the Dallas...
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Watcher
August 30, 2008 7:54 PM

During the aftermath of Katrina, I was a volunteer organizer for a group of techies who went into Mississippi and Louisiana and set up internet, voip phones all over wireless. They skipped right by the phone companies, the cellular, etc. All were small businessmen, and our worst delays were trying to get past FEMA and past IRC, both of which deliberately delayed us, so that their "chosen" industry friends would get the credit for specific projects.

The Red Cross was the worst. FEMA was just plain incompetent.

I spent hours and hours on the phone, along with contacts in government and nobody wanted to just "let" people put in vital necessities. They wanted AT&T and Intel to get glory, and in some cases asked us to wait up to a week so that someone else could get to a site and put in communications and then get headlines for it.

In other places, government agencies were so far behind, that volunteers operated under state and local government jurisdiction and set up scores of camps and refugee sites with phones and computers. All of this was donated and done for free out of the pockets of internet industry manufacturers and small businessmen.

I read with laughable scorn about how only the federal government is "big" enough to handle things like Katrina and Gustav. In reality, people, just allowed to do what they will do, can and will accomplish FAR more and far faster.

sj
August 30, 2008 8:27 PM

Johns Hopkins has put out a message to its community on how they can helpfully respond to the crisis and I'm going to rebroadcast it to my physician clients as soon as I can.

Let's just get going right now and argue about who should do the job later. (that's a general observation and definitely not directed at Rod or Watcher). My daughter and grandson are in Mobile and my daughter's aunt is in NOLA.

steve
August 30, 2008 8:30 PM

Good job Brownies, errr Cubbies.

Steve

Watcher
August 30, 2008 8:41 PM

You really think I'm interested in just talking?

I don't happen to be in a position to help this time, at least not yet.

And for goodness sakes... My daughter is IN NOLA, visiting, and as far as I know is going to have to evacuate with the family she's with.

scruffy
August 30, 2008 8:49 PM

When in need call the Boy (and Girl) Scouts. What I find interesting is that the only time FEMA got a passing grade was when Bill Clinto was in office.

Tony Williams
August 30, 2008 8:50 PM

Was anyone really surprised that the levels of government did not coordinate during Hurricane Katrina or that bureaucracy broke down? It wasn't a Republican or Democratic problem, it was a government problem, and people have put a lot of faith in government to solve their problems.

I was heartened by private charities collecting money or bottles of water at what seemed every parking lot and store. Private citizens were driving down there out of human compassion, and taking the people into their homes in their moment of need. The Coast Guard guys risking life and limb to bring those people out. That's what I like to remember about Katrina.

I can't help but compare the dependence we have upon government today and the self-reliance and voluntarism and personal independence that citizens of the eighteenth century had in the face of a deadly hurricane.

I'm just glad we have the foreknowledge and warning that people of that century did not have.

Thanks,
Tony Williams

Watcher
August 30, 2008 9:52 PM

When in need call the Boy (and Girl) Scouts. What I find interesting is that the only time FEMA got a passing grade was when Bill Clinto was in office.

Name anything FEMA did while Clinton was in office. that's right, nothing.

Long ago, I determined that Clinton was the luckiest politician around. Utterly inept at anything but blaming others and getting into women's underwear, he never confronted any crisis, he delayed all hard issues to later, and governed solely to keep his poll numbers up.

There's a lot of lives that have been lost because Clinton let the dogs of war loose by failing to be forceful. There's a lot of misery that has been endured because he punted on doing ANYTHING entailing risk to himself.

He wasn't a leader, he was a coward. And an arrogant one.

Zoetius
August 30, 2008 9:52 PM

Jindel looks like he's doing a good job with this so far. Nice to have somebody who can lead.

Mark
August 30, 2008 11:28 PM

Screw FEMA, call the Boy Scouts

Funny, but I never recall reading inspiration for such a headline in the Bible.

Please offer direct reference supporting such methodology in a passage(s) found in the Old Testament and/or New Testament.

Thank you.

Max Schadenfreude
August 31, 2008 12:54 AM

Hey Mark, have a drink already.

Erin Manning
August 31, 2008 12:59 AM

Hmmm, Mark. I think the closest thing to the "screw Fema" reference would be Psalm 146, verses 3-4, which the NIV has as follows:

"3 Do not put your trust in princes,
in mortal men, who cannot save.

4 When their spirit departs, they return to the ground;
on that very day their plans come to nothing."

As for the Boy Scouts, how about Psalm 127, verses 3-5a?

"Sons are a heritage from the LORD,
children a reward from him.

4 Like arrows in the hands of a warrior
are sons born in one's youth.

5 Blessed is the man
whose quiver is full of them.
They will not be put to shame..."

tmatt
August 31, 2008 8:39 AM

Hurrah Erin.

Prayers for those in the path of the storm.

Thanksgiving for brave people who serve others.

Enough.

Insane Kitten
August 31, 2008 9:48 AM

Way to go Boy Scouts. Most I ever did was play softball and go camping once or twice.

Unsympathetic reader
August 31, 2008 11:09 AM

"Name anything FEMA did while Clinton was in office. that's right, nothing."

You're kidding, right?
Clinton appointed a FEMA leader with experience in emergency management experience. FEMA had cabinet level status under Clinton. It was never perfect but it was definitely better run than before Bush Jr. gutted it.

sj
August 31, 2008 12:51 PM

Watcher, did you READ my comment, which said "definitely not directed at Rod or Watcher"? [emphasis added]

Clare Krishan
August 31, 2008 1:28 PM

God Bless mothers who expose their sons to real life hazards, and not namby pamby them! And g'u'lf-widows ensconced at home while their men folk stride forth to make the bacon among the pork barrels!

& ditto all the anti-potestas ejaculations aimed at big government's sterility!

BlairBurton
August 31, 2008 4:47 PM

So, we don't need municipal police officers and fire fighters and EMTs because
the Scouts, or your church ladies' guild, or the Elks club can always do the job?
The Scouts and the Elks Club and the Sodality are the people who should have gone into the Twin Towers on 9/11/01 for instance?

After all, those police officers and fire fighters and EMTs are government employees too. And they'll be down along the Gulf Coast during Gustav, during their damndest, along the National Guard - that's right, the "National" Guard.

reformer
August 31, 2008 5:12 PM

Honestly,

This is the first time I have read this site. Suggested by a friend for one of the Palin articles....I scrolled around and read a few more...I am blown away by the crude, rude, angry comments tossed back and forth...I haven't seen so much hate in one place in such a long time.

I am going to spend just a few more minutes looking deeper into the mission and "about us" behind this blog...but it definitely is not written by or commented by people who have an alive spirit regenerated by the grace and love of Jesus Christ.

Just wonder why are most of you so full of anger? Yes, God is a holy God, Righteous. And yes, The Bible says be angry, but do not sin...the anger that we are suppose to have is God's Righteous anger against sin and unrighteousness, not against people. Love the sinner, hate the sin.

Try compassion, empathy, looking at things through God's eyes and the mindset of those who have walked in their own shoes, not yours.

MJS
August 31, 2008 10:04 PM

Clare,
what? you lost me at gulf widows. What do you mean?

DavidTC
August 31, 2008 10:27 PM

Watcher
All were small businessmen, and our worst delays were trying to get past FEMA and past IRC, both of which deliberately delayed us, so that their "chosen" industry friends would get the credit for specific projects.

Small correction: That was the American Red Cross, not the International Committee of the Red Cross, Watcher. The ICRC was not helping at Katrina.

In fact, the IRCR actually criticized the American Red Cross's response, saying it was 'ill-prepared for the disaster, relied on inexperienced volunteers in key positions and had an ineffective system for moving supplies to where they were needed.'.

However, I am somewhat confused as to how the Red Cross stopped you from doing anything at all. What'd they do, threaten to stick you with needles?

No, while the Red Cross's help was somewhat inept, the fact that they were the only people allowed to help was entirely the government's, aka, FEMA's, decision. In fact, the Red Cross itself was held up by FEMA. They were at each other throats the entire time, because the RC wanted to just walk in and provide aid and FEMA...well, didn't want them to for some inexplicable reason.

But, anyway, FEMA, and the National Guard, were the only people with guns, and the only people with any sort of legal authority to stop you from doing anything. Don't go blaming the RC for you being kept out. (Feel free to blame them on their somewhat poor response, although at least some of that is not their fault.)

Essentially, Bush didn't want anyone else helping people, and was willing to do nothing at all if the alternative was someone else helping outside the 'correct channels'. I know that sounds absolutely horrible, but it explains all his behavior, from FEMA blocking help, to Bush wanting to nationalize the Guard and fighting the governor for a day over that.(1)

1) The governor fought that as that would require them to stop enforcing state law thanks to Posse Comitatus, and they were literally the only law enforcement for many areas. Bush, OTOH, wanted to do it, because...he wanted to be in charge.

Alan
August 31, 2008 11:03 PM

Now that is being prepared.

Congratulations on your commitment and dedication to such a wonderful leadership based organization. These kids will one day be in charge of our entire emergency response system. Thank God they are getting real hands on experience and already exceeding expectations in the Community.

Also you mentioned "Cub Scouts" that is awesome to even see the little guys doing their best and learning.

I have taken an interest in Boy Scouts following financial assaults by the Orange County Register which do not think it is necessary for kids to sell popcorn and National Council should hand every Scout a candy bar to make them a leader. (http://ocregisterbsa.blogspot.com/)

I am sorry you guys were not able to get down there in time. Stay safe and thank you for helping our communities.

Rod Dreher
September 1, 2008 12:08 AM

So, we don't need municipal police officers and fire fighters and EMTs because the Scouts, or your church ladies' guild, or the Elks club can always do the job?

You can never go broke in this country underestimating the lack of a sense of humor in people.

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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