Christopher Hitchens: Don't patronize Palin
Hitch can't abide the Republicans, but the liberals are making him crazy with this anti-Palin stuff. Excerpt: I could well be wrong, but I think something similar is involved in the attempt to paint the Palin family as if it...
The most dysfunctional family ever to occupy not the vice-presidential mansion but the executive one.
Not that I admire the Clintons a whole lot, but what's the basis of this statement? Bill's extramarital affairs, as the next sentence seems to imply? How does this differentiate his family from Kennedy's, or Franklin Roosevelt's, or (probably) a whole bunch of other presidents'?
This is getting ridiculous Rod....have you thought of anything else since Palin got the nod?
We shouldn't patronize her. We should just say that we shouldn't teach creationism in the public schools. It's important not to teach kids false things as if they might be true. For example, it is important not to teach kids that the earth might be flat
I can't read Hitchens because this guy is just such a Boomer. Okay, a Soixant-Huitard. These guys are irrelevant. They don't even know what century it is.
Wait..let me see...ah, yes, the opening paragraph references a movie made in..wait for it...1964. And Gore Vidal!
Sigh.
Arguably, the Reagans were the most dysfunctional family to ever live in the White House, but Hitchins has a point under all that gin-soaked reasoning.
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This is getting ridiculous Rod....have you thought of anything else since Palin got the nod?
No.
I agree with you that Sen. Obama's team gets it, but they are still playing catch up. They don't really know how to go at Gov. Palin, and are probably as unsure of her record and views as a lot of us.
On the other hand, they did make a mistake with the abortion ad. Everyone's going to know Gov. Palin's views on that issue eventually. They should have concentrated on everything but the cultural issues, which might well be where the McCain campaign wants them to go.
Finally, no personal attacks. I know liberals want Sen. Obama to fight for this election, but I don't see such attacks helping him. Demonizing McCain and Palin is not going to work, unless the press finds something to embarrass them. But the Obama campaign should stay out of it.
Good on Hitchens ... for a change.
I honestly don't have a horse in this race, but this whole thing has wandered into the range of being hilarious. At first I really did think that the Repubs were manufacturing outrage, but Hitchens is right - these people are going to lose Obama the election! Heck, I was just over at Slate where one of their liberal female bloggers referred to Bristol Palin as a sl-t! Heck, Palin doesn't even believe many of the things these people think she does (abstinence only sex ed? Nope, not true). And this whole "troopergate" thing is hilarious - the man in question tasered his kid, drank in his patrol car and made death threats! The only way that doesn't pay Palin's way is if they can find evidence that she tried to protect him. Then there's the whole "she didn't write her speech" so it doesn't tell us anything about her . . . except that she made fun of her political opponents in the speech which tells us that she's really mean. These people have really come unhinged. They will lose Obama the election. I think they kind of know that, but they just can't help themselves. I'm afraid Hitchens may be talking to walls here. The level of derangement going on is just too much for reason and self-control.
It's important not to teach kids false things as if they might be true. For example, it is important not to teach kids that the earth might be flat
Of course, a big problem is the media's approach to this -- the idea that every "controvery" has "two sides" and that "both sides" must be presented "even-handedly". A friend of said that that media's attempt to be "even-handed" about evolution vs. creationism or intelligent design made him think that if someone came out claiming loudly that the earth was flat and the round earth was just a "theory", the usual media outlets would give him a hearing on an equal footing with another person defending the "theory" that the earth was round, and the headline would be something like, "Shape of the Earth: Opinions Differ."
David J. White wrote:
[i]Of course, a big problem is the media's approach to this -- the idea that every "controvery" has "two sides" and that "both sides" must be presented "even-handedly". A friend of said that that media's attempt to be "even-handed" about evolution vs. creationism or intelligent design made him think that if someone came out claiming loudly that the earth was flat and the round earth was just a "theory", the usual media outlets would give him a hearing on an equal footing with another person defending the "theory" that the earth was round, and the headline would be something like, "Shape of the Earth: Opinions Differ."[/i]
David, I strongly agree that they way the media tends to deal with logically inconsistent claims is highly problematic. They tend to treat logically inconsistent claims as equally warranted. For example, the claim that humans descended from bacteria is not equally warranted to the claim that humans did not descend from bacteria. And some members of the media treat the claims as equally warranted. This is problematic. Because I think it makes it harder for some voters to realize what candidates would be best to vote for and which policies would be best to support. It makes it hard for people to realize that some claims are more warranted than others. And when one recognizes that some claims are more warranted than others, it often helps one realize what one should do. For example, if we know that the earth is not flat, then we shouldn't teach in the public schools that the earth might be flat.
Of course, there are instances when two logically inconsistent claims are equally plausible. For example, I have a quarter in my hand. The forecast "If I flip the quarter, it will come up head" is equally plausible to the forecast "If I flip the quarter, it will come up tails." But often some claims are more warranted than others.
I can't read Hitchens because this guy is just such a Boomer. Okay, a Soixant-Huitard. These guys are irrelevant. They don't even know what century it is. Wait..let me see...ah, yes, the opening paragraph references a movie made in..wait for it...1964. And Gore Vidal!
While I agree with you regarding annoying Boomerisms, in Hitchens's defense, there probably hasn't been any good plays or movies about political conventions since 1964. So he didn't have much to work with.
Rod,
You are way too generous in saying the Obama Campaign "gets it." This operation is Dukakis Redux. Total ineptitude.
They are tacking desperately back and forth searching for some kind of consistent message. Whereas Clinton in 1992 focused laser-like on "The Economy, Stupid", the Obama team wants to talk one day about the economy, but the next day about his support for abortion. And the next day it's the laughable "McSame" theme, followed by bizarre talk of prosecuting Bush Administration officials for "crimes."
On Palin, they have no clue at all. First they thought she could be quickly destroyed, a la Quayle. Thus Obama dismissed her as the "Mayor of Wa-silly." Her convention speech made that strategy blow up in Obama's face. As of this past weekend, senior Obama strategists told the NY Times and other outlets that they intended to ignore Palin and just focus on McCain and the economy. But by Monday the avalanche of pro-McCain/Palin polling data caused them to shift back into attack mode, with both Obama and Biden personally talking at every stop about Palin.
All this is catnip for the idiot Left, which is overrepresented online and thus in the minds of the Obama strategists. But McCain is rising steadily in the polls, not only in horserace, but more importantly in the internals. And so is Palin.
And tonight Obama not-so-subtly referred to Sarah Palin as a "pig." So much for post-partisanship, and so much for Obama's presidential demeanor.
I can't recall ever seeing the wheels fly off a national campaign in such a short period of time. Obama and his people have never faced a contested general election contest, and it shows. They don't "get" anything. They are a handful of news cycles away from seeing an election that should have been easily won become almost irretrievably lost.
I might add that Obama-Biden has been burning through its cash at an astounding rate, paying staff generously and producing almost comically ineffective television commercials. Again, focusing on a different message every week.
And to think that Obama based his argument that he had as much executive experience as Gov. Palin on the fact that he's run a large national campaign.
All we need is for him to climb into a tank....
me
And this whole "troopergate" thing is hilarious - the man in question tasered his kid, drank in his patrol car and made death threats!
No, the man in question refused to fire 'that man', who had received a disciplinary hearing and been punished appropriately. (Incidentally, the supposed 'death threats' only showed up after all this was over.) That second man is still, quite correctly, working for the police, because none of his behavior reached a firing offense. He was disciplined and that was that. Nothing else happened to him.
The actual victim of Palin's behavior was a completely innocent person who was asked, illegitimately, to fire that person, and when he refused to do so, was fired himself.
I was skeptical of simon's reference to Obama's referring to Palin as a "pig", so went and googled "obama palin pig"; sure enough immediately got Obama's comment about "lipstick on a pig". I probably will vote for Obama, but it does seem that he and his campaign advisors are going off the deep end! Perhaps his advisors are just young and inexperienced twenty-or-thirty somethings who haven't much common sense! And the reference above to the liberal blogger at Slate who calls Governor Palin's daughter a sl*t is really quite amazing.
Victor Davis Hansen has a good take on this, IMO:
corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZjhkNmYzOTVkNDgwNGFmNzEzNjc0ZDVkMDMxNWY2NjI=
Was McCain the stinky old fish? [Victor Davis Hanson]
In all the furor over the Obama "pig" quote, commentators forgot to examine his entire attack:
"You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig."
"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink."
When read in the entire context you can see what he seems to mean with his dual animate male/female references and why he probably evoked two metaphors: most would think that Obama is talking about both on the ticket and his anger how each has expropriated his change motif.
So in that sense he appears both to insult the 72-year old McCain as the "old fish" that is still going to "stink", and to refer to Palin, who had famously evoked the metaphor of lipstick in a nationally televised address, as still the pig despite the lipstick.
The fact that he used two metaphors to attack the two, and used expressions referring both to age and Palin's recent use of "lipstick" don't seem to be accidents and that's why the cooing crowd got the old fish=McCain, lipsticked pig=Palin immediately.
I'll leave it to others to deconstruct the historical use of pig as a sexist term in the recent climate of generic attacks on Sarah Palin.
P.S. The VP nominee was just announced and already Biden has called her "good looking" and now “a step back for women”; most know what he intended, but like most Bidenisms they come out wrongly and confirm a popular perception that he suffers from logorhhea and that there is a different standard of reference applied to Palin due to her sex.
Someone in the campaign has got to manage the ex tempore carelessness.
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This is lower than Bill Clinton's Jesse Jackson reference re: Obama's showing in North (?) Carolina. Obama has "Who, me?" written all over his face.
Pa-thet-ic.
It's hilarious watching the lunatic left complaining about Palin being an unqualified & ridiculous choice for VP when their presidential candidate is the most unqualified candidate in history. If this were really true, they would be celebrating at an easy win. The sad truth is if Obama were white, no one would be taking him seriously. I keep hearing the left complain that he may not be elected due to racism. I have spoken to many people who won't be voting for Obama, but it has nothing to do with race. I do however hear most of his supporters draw a blank when I ask them why they are voting for him, only to finally admit it is because he is black. Racism works both way. Just look at the youtube videos of his supporters admit they are voting for him because of his color.
It's hilarious watching the lunatic left complaining about Palin being an unqualified & ridiculous choice for VP when their presidential candidate is the most unqualified candidate in history. If she were really so unqualified, they would be celebrating at an easy win. The sad truth is if Obama were white, no one would be taking him seriously. I keep hearing the left complain that he may not be elected due to racism. I have spoken to many people who won't be voting for Obama, but it has nothing to do with race. I do however hear most of his supporters draw a blank when I ask them why they are voting for him, only to finally admit it is because he is black. Racism works both way. Just look at the youtube videos of his supporters admit they are voting for him because of his color.
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