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Where's Sarah?

Wednesday September 24, 2008

Categories: Republicans
I agree with Larison: the Republicans' keeping Sarah Palin in media purdah is ridiculous. Yes, the press doesn't have to be coddled. But good grief, this woman wants to be the vice president of the United States! If she can't...
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Tam
September 23, 2008 9:32 PM

But perhaps it is better not to know and remain blissful in our ignorance...

Turmarion
September 23, 2008 9:35 PM

An interesting article about Sarah Palin and her political methods, courtesy of Salon.com, and another about some of the lovely techniques of the McCain campaign. 'Nuff said.

Ron
September 23, 2008 9:46 PM

Rod I have read you for 21 months, and absolutely loved your thoughts an writings...but the last few weeks you have swung one way and then another and then back...and you are wearing me out...do you need to see a doctor? Maybe you have become bi-polar! But you are wearing me out to the point I don't want to read you...do you need a break? Politics is politics and Americans are Americans...on to one candidate today and on to another tomorrow, whatever is popular or looks good one week, whoever does the best ad, etc...Rod just please do not fall into this trap with your writings!

Ron

Doug Cramer
September 23, 2008 9:56 PM

"I'm with Ross, who has, like me, defended her fiercely as a cultural figure, but who has been let down by her post-convention performance."

I still don't see what there was to admire in her pre-convention or convention performance either.

Doug

Tim
September 23, 2008 9:57 PM

Gov Palin has the media, libs, and Hollywood in a panic!... Obama Baby, you are a good public speaker, but you are also the most liberal candidate that is the product of Chicago Southside Political Machine which has a long and rich history of political corruption of the first magnitude. You are indeed a child of that system and I don''t want you anywhere near the Oval Office...have a nice day.

Rod Dreher
September 23, 2008 10:00 PM

Ron, what are you talking about? I passionately defended Palin against the kinds of personal, cultural attacks she was getting, but always said I would reserve judgment about her as a politician till I saw what she could do. I haven't been impressed. Maybe that will change. I have to call 'em as I see 'em, and it would be dishonest to write as if I were satisfied with her performance just because I like what she symbolizes.

M.Z. Forrest
September 23, 2008 10:09 PM

*sarcasm*
It is apparent that you hate American, women, and apple pie Rod. Sarah is a mother of 5 children. One of Sarah's children has Down Syndrome. Sarah's other child is joyfully not slaughtering her baby. Is this not enough for you?
*end sarcasm*

Doug Cramer
September 23, 2008 10:12 PM

Gotta love this bit from The New Republic:

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_stump/archive/2008/09/23/palin-s-twist-on-the-quot-dog-ate-my-homework-quot-excuse.aspx

"I thought it was worth sharing my all-time favorite Palin quote. It came in the context of criticism during the 2006 campaign that she was ducking debates and candidate forums.

"Take it away, Anchorage Daily News:

" Last week, the Knowles campaign also pointed out Palin's cancellation of a meeting with Alaska Native corporation chief executives Oct. 3, asking if she's only attending events she's comfortable with.

"Palin said Friday it wouldn't have been appropriate to attend the meeting out of respect for the audience.

""I didn't know enough about tribal government and we did not have time to do all the research to give the subject its due," she said.

" Asked about the cancellation at the time, her campaign spokesman, Smith, talked about Palin's hectic schedule.

" "There's always competing obligations," Palin said Friday.

" Knowles' campaign manager, Leslie Ridle, said not being ready isn't a good excuse.

"If only I'd have thought of that back in high school: No ma'am. I didn't do the assignment--didn't know anything about The Great Gatsby and didn't think it was appropriate to write the paper, out of respect for you and my classmates. It's f***ing brilliant!"

Doug

Turmarion
September 23, 2008 10:31 PM

Another goodie from The New Republic. Best part, (from Michelle Cottle, who grew up in rural Tennessee), but read the whole article (emphasis added):

"Just like Ralph Peters, I KNOW Sarah Palin. Hell, in my younger days, I WAS Sarah Palin. (Well, minus being a crack shot.) The difference is I don't fetishize my regular-gal roots and assume they make me special--much less qualified to run the country. And while I have indeed witnessed my fair share of cultural snobbery from some of my better-credentialed, coastal colleagues over the years, I'm not so defensive about where I come from that I feel the need to champion a wildly unqualified fellow hick whose politics I disagree with as a way to get back at everyone I know who has ever made a sniffy comment about big hair or small towns.

Memo to Ralph & Co.: Get over yourselves and stop lumping everyone who grew up in non-elite circles into some persecuted ball of burning, self-righteous resentment. And now and again try to stop patting yourselves on the back for personally knowing someone who once went to Alaska (Did I mention that I've also been?) long enough to acknowledge that not everyone--not even everyone in the media--objects to Palin because she is an un-ivied "rube." Some of us, in fact, don't give a rat's ass where she comes from. We're too busy worrying about where she and McCain want to take us all next."

As a fellow native of Appalachia, I say to Michelle Cottle, "You go girl! Can I hear an amen?

Linda
September 23, 2008 10:38 PM

Mark Nickolas, of the blog Political Base, warns us to be on the lookout for fake news footage in days to come:

http://www.politicalbase.com/profile/Mark%20Nickolas/blog/&blogId=4189

He begins with this quote from the Associated Press...

"Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is banning reporters from her first meetings with world leaders, allowing access only to photographers and a television crew."

...and goes on to ask:

"Anyone want to bet five bucks that the "television crew" is really a film crew sent by McCain-Palin's media consultant for the sole purpose of future campaign ads?"

MI
September 23, 2008 10:41 PM

And I was just thinking this morning,

"Well, at least the financial crisis has obliterated all mention of Palinmania on Crunch Con & elsewhere."

Ah well.

Jillian
September 23, 2008 10:57 PM

Gov Palin has the media, libs, and Hollywood in a panic!...

She has ratings of ~38% favorable, ~48% unfavorable with voters.

38% is the size of the partisan vote for Republicans. 48% is the size of the generic Democratic vote this year.

Democrats are having good fun laughing at her now. (Just check out some websites like mydd.com) It's been an amazingly fast fade to where she has no pull on the swing voters whatsoever.

jack
September 23, 2008 11:19 PM

As Andrew S can't stop noting, this is unprecedented and just plain weird. Actually it's understandable -- a 2nd rate politician like this would be eaten up by freewheeling, unscripted questions. Again we ask: is McCain so in hock to the religious right that he had to make this pick? Is this the best the religious right can come up with??

MarcM
September 23, 2008 11:19 PM

Rod...it's called buyer's remorse.

michael
September 23, 2008 11:22 PM

Well as Mark Twain (I think?) said, better to say nothing and let people think you're dim, than to speak up and remove all doubt.

Rawlins Gilliland
September 23, 2008 11:38 PM

MZ Forrest says:
"Sarah's other child is joyfully not slaughtering her baby."

Rawlins says: Neither did Barack Obama's mother Ann when, at 18 years old in college, she had her Hawaiian surprise pregnancy with a black African student. In 1961....pre civil rights, etc. Do that math. Can we all agree then that Ann Dunham rather than Bristol Palin should be the Pro-Life poster girl?

PS: (The 'joyfully' part you ascribe to teen daughter Bristol was evident as Governor Palin's 17 yr. old was plainly pregnant and showing while seated center-spotlight at the convention family box. Holding the presumed father-to-be's hand in a memorable and terrific teenage 'pro-family values' demonstration for 40-plus million viewers to see, many of whom were probably daughter Bristol's age. I know that you.... no less than I ...found this comforting in a time of familial stress regarding teen sexual temptation.)

Kirk
September 24, 2008 12:09 AM

Biden is allowed to speak to the press. (How's that working for you, Mr. Obama??) Thought so.

Kirk
September 24, 2008 12:13 AM

Rod I have read you for 21 months, and absolutely loved your thoughts an writings...but the last few weeks you have swung one way and then another and then back...and you are wearing me out...

You're not alone, Ron.

Rawlins Gilliland
September 24, 2008 12:19 AM

I repeat my prediction I've said since that Friday when Palin was initially announced; this choice was a brilliant 'pop-the-nimbers' polulist choice that would cool (in the light of sober scrutiny) and ultimately repel the swing electorate.....and be said come November as the deciding factor that cost McCain the election.

PS: Better to keep her under wraps. As we learned at that Super Bowel: You cannot have Kathi Lee Gifford sing the Star Spangled Banner and expect the stadium crowd to stay on its feet.

EddieInCA
September 24, 2008 12:59 AM

Rod -

In the past several weeks, I've asked you, and several other supporters of Palin's pick, to give one policy position which makes her worthy of supporting, other than her social positions.

I understand that to many of her supporters, her social positions are enough. But we're talking about the Vice-Presidency of the United States. In my lifetime, I've seen Kennedy and Nixon not finish terms, and assassination attempts on Reagan and Ford. It's a real possibility that this woman could become president, yet all her policy "positions" are myths more than any governing principle.

Earmarks? She was for them before she was against them.
Fiscal Conservatism? Not so much. See Wasilla Devt, post-Palin.
Against corruption? She ran Steven's 527, so again, not so much.
Foreign Affairs? Alaska is close to Russia.
Domestic Policy? Who knows?
Evironmental Policy? Likes Obama's position (or said she did a few months ago.)
Telling the truth? Not so much. See 'Bridge to Nowhere'.

I could keep going...

Bottom line is that I know you to be an honorable man, Rod. But I struggle to understand what you mean when you write I'm with Ross, who has, like me, defended her fiercely as a cultural figure,....

What does that mean? What exactly is a cultural figure? What makes her a cultural figure, and what governing philosophy does she espouse.

I am truly not trying to be argumentative. I'm asking the question in good faith, and trying to understand why so many smart, honorable conservatives supported Palin from the get-go (Rod, Ross, Brooks) and others (Frum, Larison, Ponnuru) were equally against her. I still have no idea why anyone would support Palin as a serious VP Candidate. If she were a man, there would be no doubt of the lack of qualifications, and I very much doubt Rod, Ross and Brooks would be supportive. But I could be wrong.


Charles Cosimano
September 24, 2008 2:26 AM

If the polling figures are at all accurate (and it may be as hard to accurately poll Palin as it is to poll Obama) she has proven to be a net negative for McCain and his campaign, only offset by what seems to be the total worthlessness of Biden whose knowledge of American history is only equaled by his ignorance of foreign policy.

Now, we must remember that bad economic news favors Obama so the southward turn of the economy in the last couple of weeks may be the factor in his rise in the polls, but clearly it is obvious that Palin is no longer a positive for McCain with the general voting public, and, in fact the more they see of her, the less they seem to like her.

Godfrey Daniel
September 24, 2008 8:25 AM

In my lifetime, I've seen Kennedy and Nixon not finish terms, and assassination attempts on Reagan and Ford. It's a real possibility that this woman could become president, yet all her policy "positions" are myths more than any governing principle. - EddieInCA

But of the two Presidential candidates, who is the more likely one for this scenario, and hence which VP choice would be more likely to become President - Plugs or Palin?

Daniel
September 24, 2008 8:43 AM

Love him or hate him, Godfrey, I don't think there's anyone who doesn't question that Joe Biden could easily take over if Obama could't finish his term. The question is, love her or hate her, do people really think St. Sarah and the First Dude are ready to lead the country. Clearly the McCain campaign has their concerns, given the way they are shielding her from the press and try to protect her in debates.

Derek Copold
September 24, 2008 9:12 AM

Love him or hate him, Godfrey, I don't think there's anyone who doesn't question that Joe Biden could easily take over if Obama could't finish his term.

I would. His mouth tends to get ahead of his brain (or worse, it's keeping pace), which makes him a dangerous person to put in the White House. Dubya has the same problem. Still, he is on paper light years ahead of the GOP's shot of Sarahtonin.

Derek Copold
September 24, 2008 9:18 AM

If the polling figures are at all accurate (and it may be as hard to accurately poll Palin as it is to poll Obama) she has proven to be a net negative for McCain and his campaign, only offset by what seems to be the total worthlessness of Biden whose knowledge of American history is only equaled by his ignorance of foreign policy.

I think McCain has thought this out before he made his pick. If he loses, he can blame it all on sweet Sarah and the conservatives who backed her so willingly. Lord knows, the fools deserve it. Kristol, Podhoretz, et. al. will sing, "We should have picked Lieberman", even though he was a clear non-starter, and McCain and his backers will wriggle off the hook.

Daniel
September 24, 2008 9:34 AM

Although it may not have been the intent all along, there is no doubt when the fingers start getting pointed, people are going to say, "This is what happens when we listen to social conservatives." Maybe it would have been easier to have a Sister Souljah moment with the far-right wing instead of indulging them.

Rob G
September 24, 2008 9:40 AM

"Clearly the McCain campaign has their concerns, given the way they are shielding her from the press and try to protect her in debates."

This may be true to an extent, but on the other hand, considering the fact that the drive-by media is unquestionably biased against McCain/Palin, why should the latter play the former's game? I believe there is a certain amount of McCain's giving the MSM the middle finger here, as well as the 'shielding.' The McCain people want Palin out there on THEIR schedule, not the MSM's.

By the way, is anyone ever going to ask Obama any tough questions?

Daniel
September 24, 2008 9:48 AM

The McCain people want Palin out there on THEIR schedule, not the MSM's.

That excuse worked two weeks ago. The election is in six weeks so it's time for her to actually answer questions from the press even people in the crowd.

By the way, is anyone ever going to ask Obama any tough questions?

How many times has Obama been on Meet the Press, Face the Nation, This Week and Fox Sunday Morning over the last two years? If you don't think he hasn't been asked tough questions, you've been living under a rock for the last two years.

EricW
September 24, 2008 9:52 AM

The only time I saw someone ask Obama tough questions, and stick to them, was his interview on Bill O'Reilly.

November 4 will be an interesting day.

Rob G
September 24, 2008 9:58 AM

"If he loses, he can blame it all on sweet Sarah and the conservatives who backed her so willingly."

This may be true, but the GOP also has to consider that without Palin, McCain would be even further behind in the polls among likely GOP voters. Numerous conservatives got behind McCain only because they see Palin as a bit of a bright spot, however small. Daniel's representation of these people as "far right" shows his (as usual) ignorance of conservatives. There is a certain group of social conservatives that is very excited about Palin, but others see her as a sort of bone thrown to them, and are not falling for it. A third group sees her as just enough of a plus on McCain's side to get them to vote for an otherwise unnattractive GOP candidate. The mistake that the MSM makes, and Lefties in general, for that matter, is to lump all these 'conservatives' together as if they were univocal, which they are not.

Linda
September 24, 2008 10:23 AM

According to CNN's Campbell Brown, hiding Sarah Palin smacks of sexism.

Video at this link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkemPwvi_qY

Partial transcript:
"Tonight I call on the McCain campaign to stop treating Sarah Palin like she is a delicate flower that will wilt at any moment. This woman is from Alaska from crying out loud. She is strong. She is tough. She is competent. And you claim she is ready to be one heart beat away form the presidency. If that is the case, then end this chauvinistic treatment of her now. Allow her to show her stuff. Allow her to face down those pesky reporters... Let her have a real news conference with real questions. By treating Sarah Palin different from the other candidates in this race, you are not showing her the respect she deserves. Free Sarah Palin. Free her from the chauvinistic chain you are binding her with. Sexism in this campaign must come to an end. Sarah Palin has just as much a right to be a real candidate in this race as the men do. So let her act like one."

Rob G
September 24, 2008 10:27 AM

"That excuse worked two weeks ago. The election is in six weeks so it's time for her to actually answer questions from the press even people in the crowd."

Agreed. I'm simply saying that I think that there's more than just "shielding" going on here.

And Obama has to step up to the plate in the regard as well.

Aletheist
September 24, 2008 10:32 AM

Six weeks is an eternity in today's political and media environment. While I would prefer to see Palin out in the open and (hopefully) doing well right away, my hunch is that she will remain mostly under wraps until the debate with Biden. If that goes poorly, it is probably "game over" for her anyway. However, if it goes well, then I would expect her to be more accessible during the subsequent sprint to the finish. Everyone will be pleasantly surprised at her good performance, and McCain will be saying, "I told you so!" We shall see.

Daniel
September 24, 2008 10:44 AM

Daniel's representation of these people as "far right" shows his (as usual) ignorance of conservatives.

Palin was chosen to appeal primarily to Colorado Springs conservatives and the social conservative movement. That was the political calculus after floating the Lieberman and Ridge trial balloons that were shot down by the pro-life movement and their power brokers. They tried dressing up her credentials as a "reformer," but that hasn't gone anywere. Her polling is horrible except at the very far right of the GOP.

The only people she's energized are the very people McCain knew he had trouble appeasing: social conservatives.

EricW
September 24, 2008 10:47 AM

"I would rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy." - Dorothy Parker

I might first need the former to happily vote for McCain-Palin, but I would definitely need the latter to vote for Obama-Biden.

YMMV.

Rob G
September 24, 2008 11:02 AM

"The only people she's energized are the very people McCain knew he had trouble appeasing: social conservatives."

You missed my point. She's not even energizing all social conservatives, just a certain segment -- those who tend to watch Fox News and listen to Hannity and Limbaugh. And that group is not necessarily 'far right.'

Derek Copold
September 24, 2008 12:36 PM

This may be true, but the GOP also has to consider that without Palin, McCain would be even further behind in the polls among likely GOP voters. Numerous conservatives got behind McCain only because they see Palin as a bit of a bright spot, however small.

I think McCain would have been in better shape had he picked someone like Pawlenty, who met all the requirements and had a term and a reelection in a blue-leaning state under his belt. The one thing McCain had to sell was his image as the "safe bet", and he tossed it away, proving that he was never all that safe in the first place.

As far as the social conservatives go, that they'd throw their support behind McCain based on such a thin reed says nothing good about them. Palin had nothing in the way of experience that justifies her selection, and she's clearly not ready for the job. Yes, the same things can be said of Obama (though not to nearly the same degree), but that's not the point. We on the right are supposed to oppose identity politics, and that's what Sarah Palin was all about. The social conservatives have effectively ceded one of their most compelling, secular arguments to the left. And for what? The opportunity to send one of their own to foreign funerals?

The choice was nuts, and social conservatives were suckers for backing it. They have truly proven that all a Republican has to do to get their support is position himself only slightly to the left of his Democratic opponent and hand out a few sinecures.

Sheila
September 24, 2008 2:10 PM

Has anybody considered the possibility that McCain is physically attracted to Palin? After all, he's a guy with a history of having a wandering eye, and I wouldn't be surprised if he would feel a need to prove himself physically attractive now that he's in his declining years. Notice his body language when he's with her.

Alicia
September 24, 2008 2:21 PM

It occured to me during the two-week frenzy after the Palin pick that the Republicans were peaking too early. Since I don't think Palin is qualified, at the present moment, to be Vice President, and I don't think McCain is the right choice for President, I am happy the Republicans peaked too early.

McCain would have to be crazy not to have noticed that Palin is an attractive woman, Sheila. It's human nature to notice attractive people. But I don't think it means anything.

I don't believe we've necessarily heard the last of Palin, but I certainly hope McCain-Palin loses in November.

Rob G
September 24, 2008 4:12 PM

"I certainly hope McCain-Palin loses in November."

I wish both sides could lose. I have no wish to see Obama the Marxist in the White House either.

Alicia
September 24, 2008 6:15 PM

I feel your pain, Rob. I was for Hillary Clinton, now I'm for Obama because I think we need someone steady and sane at the helm, Marxist or no.

BlairBurton
September 24, 2008 8:05 PM

Turmarion:
"As a fellow native of Appalachia, I say to Michelle Cottle, "You go girl! Can I hear an amen?"

You got that amen, from another native of Appalachia.

Chris
September 27, 2008 2:44 PM

After now watching Gov. Palin with three different interviewers, I'm increasingly concerned. This woman, possibly only a heartbeat from the presidency, appears at times incoherent, unknowledgeable, and lacking any insights beyond the talking points she's been stuffed with. I'm honestly beginning to fear Sen. McCain has picked his running mate in much the same way failing banks picked their subprime lendees.

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