Garrison Keillor, semi-jerk
Honestly, I really do love "A Prairie Home Companion," and Garrison Keillor's book "Lake Wobegon Days" is one of my all-time favorites. But the man is humorless when it comes to politics, and can be a nasty piece of work....
I agree. Future anatomists should name the south end of the alimentary canal the Garrisonkeillor, and irritations there Keilloroids.
I, too, remember Keillor's column after his trip to Dallas. He looked about two feet tall. Apparently it did not occur to him that people who were familiar with his work, and liked it enough to turn out for him, would probably not be torture aficionados. I have never enjoyed him as much since.
I've had a bad impression of him after reading about a lawsuit he filed against his neighbor because the neighbor planned to add on to his house, even though Keillor's was by far the largest in the neighborhood (and would have remained so). Keillor said he needed "access to light and air" and "open space". Sounds like he can be a real pain in the butt.
This comes from the same Mr. Keillor who derided "those who believe in the Virgin Birth" in the last cycle in 2004.
I used to just love listening to Keillor's "News from Lake Wobegon" as a geeky teenager in the 1980s. But now I view him as in the same category as Anne Lamott, who pretty much referred to Palin as evil incarnate a few weeks back.
They both enjoy posing as gentle souls who yearn for simpler times, but you can only pose as something you aren't for so long. The older one gets, I believe, the harder it is to maintain whatever false pretense of identity any of us has built in our younger adult years. The true soul starts poking through the facade, and we have a harder time maintaining the energy needed to keep up the pretense.
So more often than not the bilious leftist hate leaks out of people like Keillor and Lamott.
One of the peculiarities of us Texans is, we tend to be friendly to visitors, tourists, and passers by, not depending on their political affiliations as long as those political affiliations aren't waved in our faces. Ain't so in a lot of other places.
well, you can always be judged by the company you keep.
I was supposed to play a festival gig with Keillor's musical director from "A Prairie Home Companion" over the summer, and at practically the last possible minute, the guy had us pulled from the gig (we're a pretty high energy afrobeat/jazz/jam band) because we "weren't what we represented ourselves to be."
This stuff is usually learned behavior. So, Keillor's jerkiness doesn't surprise me in the least.
Rob
October 22, 2008 4:31 PM
One of the peculiarities of us Texans is, we tend to be friendly to visitors, tourists, and passers by, not depending on their political affiliations as long as those political affiliations aren't waved in our faces. Ain't so in a lot of other places.
Actually, Rob... as an Alabaman living in South Carolina, I think that may be a southern thing, not just a Texan thing. And a lovely trait it is.
Why is Garrison Keillor news?
I'm always amazed at how many liberals think all Republicans are uptight, unfriendly, and completely uneducated. Just the other day I heard a caller on NPR say most of the other Americans he ran into on a trip to Europe were Obama fans, probably, he said, because Republicans were just not as likely to travel abroad. Unbelievable how a group of people who often pride themselves on being open minded are so close minded when it comes to their perception of Republicans!
Maybe it's a hangover from his drinking problem. A lot of former alcoholics have serious problems keeping an emotional even keel.
Doesn't excuse it, but there are probably a lot of chemicals involved for which he's stil paying.
Surprised to read that he thinks that the virgin birth is stupid; he's episcopal, isn't he? Maybe he just likes the upscale atmosphere, something better than his old fundie days.
Agree. He's a helluva writer, but as a person? My southern upbringing prohibits me from going further.
Maybe if the media had debunked the Bush is a Texan story. Bush's birth and life in the northeast- his deep family connections- were never written about. Meanwhile Democrats were not authentic- while the phony Texan was able to parade about while the media took no notice.
Jeff,
So it's Bush's fault. Has that become the all purpose liberal answer to all problems?
Semi-jerk?
I just don't know.
Maybe it's because I'm not from the South, and so don't identify with Southern culture and norms. Maybe it's because I'm a Californian, and therefore view things through a different lens. Maybe it's because my family is largely from midwestern Scandinavian stock, and Keillor's rhythms and cadences are those of my extended family, like hearing the voice of a beloved uncle telling stories after dinner. Maybe it's because I travel to southern Oklahoma every couple of years for a family reunion on my wife's family's farm, something I look forward to eagerly despite an awareness of the differences between her cousins' outlook on life and our own. Could be any of those things, but I read his column and I'm just not seeing the sneering condescension that others seem to be reading into it.
First, you have to remember who Keillor is. He's a Minnesotan, a Democrat, whose career is largely based on a show he started in the 1970s on public radio, and the books that have flowed from it. Given that background, I'd be mightily surprised if he liked George W. Bush (the "Current Occupant," as he puts it), and of course he doesn't.
Second, you have to remember who he's writing for--Salon, whose subscribers likely tilt substantially to the left. To some extent, he's explaining Red America to Blue America, and Red America may be uncomfortable with its depiction, which is actually somewhat affectionate.
Affectionate? Yes. Go back and read it again. He talks of the civic virtues of the citizens of Abilene, "fine upstanding people," their pride in their community and the admirable qualities they evince, things like their firmness in their beliefs, their self-reliance, and their steadfastness of character. He writes of it being a lovely evening overall, with an implied recognition that we are all Americans, all part of the same tribe in the end despite the divisions in our culture and society.
What he's saying is really no different than how I feel about my wife's family in Oklahoma. I love them, although we come from different places and don't agree on everything, and I am baffled by some of their politics. I'd love to argue about it with them, but like Keillor I was raised by midwesterners and there's something inside that says, "Don't be rude." So I'm not. Instead, I enjoy the barbecue and lavish praise on the rhubarb pie. But in the end, we're all family, and that's what really matters--and that's what I heard Keillor saying between the lines in his column.
With a couple weeks to go in this election campaign, and things getting somewhat hysterical as we race towards the finish line, I wish more people would realize that.
More than a few of us up here in Minnesota have known for a long time that there is a bitter side to Mr. Keillor. It wasn't long after the city and people of St. Paul spent millions to refurbish the theater in which he performs that he left in a huff for Denmark and New York. the recent suit against a neighbor for "blocking his view of the sky" was just another of his fits and starts and over the years his gentle voice has turned into a growl, especially in politics. He has made millions, with seed money from the taxpayers supporting public radio, and has a reputation for a kind of home spun charm, but he's not aging well. As time goes by a growing number of people are getting tired of his antics and for the most part he may be condemning himself to shouting at the demons that inhabit his echo chamber. Sad.
Can we please just call the man by his legal and birth name? It's Gary Keillor. "Garrison" is purely a putatively 'literary' affectation he started back in the 70s when he got to the Big Apple. Since the man has made himself into an object of ridicule with his antics, I see no reason to indulge his pretensions.
Gary "Garrison" Keillor is still on the air?
Man, what a surprise. I checked out his radio show one very lonely Saturday night back in the early 1900s and I thought it was a dud. Am surprised that anyone is still tuning in.
Oops, meant to say "early 1990s" (not "early 1900s") in my previous post (8:56 PM).
Regardless, surprised the guy is still on the air or taken seriously by anyone. At the time I listened in I thought of him as a fad that would fade, sort of like the Pet Rock, bell-bottom jeans and the lip-synching rock singers Milli Vanilli.
Scott Lahti, check out Nick Lowe's performance on Prarie Home Companion:
http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/programs/2008/10/11/
The man has a fertile and somewhat funny imagination. His whole life is mostly about fiction.
And you expected reality from him?
Per Garrison Keillor...(who is make no mistake; very popular for God knows what reason) Trust me; the 'Liberal / Progressives' I know either cannot 'get' Keillor's show and / or cannot stand Keillor's arrogant political intrusive presumption. A rude jerk is a rude jerk.
I just read the column and have to chime in with Lazarus. I don't see any bile tossed at Texas at all - he is pointing out the different culture of Abilene to Salon readers all over the country. (Don't know exactly the demographic of Salon readers, but I'm going to guess that the greatest readership does not come from Texas.) And he does it in a style that is familiar to me, coming from the same general culture, as more self-deprecatory than anything else.
Rhe guy handed Texans plenty of compliments. Trusting and trustworthy, generous and self-reliant, friendly and gracious. This is acting like they are barely out of the caves?
Lazarus and Elizabeth,
The whole column is one long back-handed compliment. Especially the next-to-last paragraph--
"My fellow liberal elitists are more dependent on other people. I am, that's for sure. I need other people to fix my car, raise my vegetables, build bookshelves, launder my shirts and clean my house, and since I need those people, I should take some passing interest in the schools their children attend and the sort of medical care available. I don't believe in indentured servitude, and so I want to live in a society in which the women who launder and fold my shirts get a fair deal. I don't want my breakfast sausage to come from a packing plant like the one in Iowa that employed undocumented Mexicans and treated them like medieval serfs. So I'm a Democrat. It's the party that has a better record of looking after the interests of people who earn less than a hundred grand a year."
You see, Republicans (per GK) don't take a passing interest in public schools or medical care available to the public; they believe in indentured servitude, especially of undocumented Mexicans.
What a jackass!
Kirk
Alumnus, Abilene Christian University
Being from the midwest, and at one time a Lutheran to boot, I really appreciated Keillor's schtick. But yeah, he's an ass outside of his program. Been married three times, which is a hint; also tried to usurp Robert Altman's prestige when they were doing publicity for the movie Prairie Home Companion -- upstaging him, taking over questions from him, etc.
Funniest thing ever, though, from several years back: "George Bush's lips...where words go to die."
Texans might find it condescending, but Southerners do have that chip on their shoulder.
And that's too bad, because I think Keillor meant nothing but kindness.
In January, I was in the Hill Country, Austin and San Antonio. Nicest people I've ever met (except for in Austin), but I still was taken aback that a friend of my adopted-Texan brother -- a man in his 50s -- still unabashedly called his own father "Daddy."
Guess what! Our beautiful country is big enough to have cultural differences. In California the Christian fundamentalists are arguing for civil unions and nobody's smoked indoors in a decade -- unless it's medical marijuana. A visitor from Texas would probably find the local culture bizarre and report home with a bit of condescencion.
The difference is, the Californians wouldn't sweat it. The Red Staters, on the other hand, have built a whole political movement on that resentment.
Dreher - thin skinned or what?
A bit off topic... But, when are we going to see the "OMG THE SKY IS FALLING!!!" stories about how the presidency was bought with almost a trillion dollars?
Well I was going to ask Dreher if he got up on the wrong side of the bed, but canucklehead stole my thunder, and said it better anyway. And you guys call Keillor bitter? You ought to read your own comments if you want to see bitter.
I have the same feeling about Keillor (i.e. "semi-jerk"), having read enough of his columns on Salon to know there's more (or less?) to him than the folksy, lovable persona we hear on the Prairie Home Companion. The guy has a lot of anger and likes to express it through subtle derision. I have mixed emotions about this Abilene piece. For every compliment he gives his hosts, there seems to be an implied insult. (Of course, I'm a southerner, and we simply don't insult our hosts, whoever they might be, for any reason. So maybe I'm a little sensitive!) I'm particularly offended by the implication that Republicans don't care about the public school system or the health care system or the 'deal" that those who make less than 100 K are dealt. That sort of base distortion is akin to Republicans accusing Democrats of being "against families." The public will never stop buying into this kind of hurtful stereotype as long as so many public voices keep perpetuating it. (Garrison, please don't make me trot out the statistics – again – about how much more generous with their time AND money conservatives are than liberals...)
Having said all that, I do think Keillor's portrait of Abilene is fairly affectionate and appreciative. Just wish that affection weren't tempered with condescension.
As I read this, I was mulling over the comments in the Trig Palin section below. There's an interesting contrast between how hard people are on Garrison Keillor for some words that can be taken two ways, and some possibly questionable actions, and the nice soft place to fall that they provide for God, who is responsible for letting kids be born with horrid genetic malfunctions, and whose angry words have egged his followers on to outbreaks of mass murder. Y'all seem to be a lot harder on a fallible, finite fellow human being than you are on the immortal and omniscient deity, who surely should know better and be able to do better. Is that really fair?
I can't buy this fake homespun BS of which the NPR crowd seems highly
enamored...
Things I have a hard time embracing about NPR
a) Keillor and his ilk and their fake homespun charm. Trotting out
those old folk songs, such seems like a 1950's Marxist tent revival.
b) Strangely feminine commentators who can't make an affirmative
statement (everything is a question). I call it the "gay inflection"
c) Newsreaders and commentators with speech impediments.
Nothing against people who lisp, but how do they end up
newsreaders?
d) Every detail of life described with a kind of preciousness
one would reserve for a trip to a great European cathedral
("Oh the [name that exotic dish] is just fabulous. Absolutely
scrumptious.") And it goes on for 5 minutes.
I've been to Europe many times and their better produced news
stations don't suffer from this nonsense. This seems a peculiarly
American/liberal phenomenon.
The "Crunchy Con" movement risks descent into this maddening
presciousness on a regular basis.
Good point Sig. I guess nobody can't criticize nobody no more...
Memo to all critics: Stop criticizing other people's views or statements until you start heaping it on God first. He's the real fiend anyway because he made all of us.
JH:
Why are you spending time on something you say you don't buy?
David:
Put your name on the list of addressees of the memo you sent and implement your own suggestions.
David, I'd be in quite a fix if criticism were banned. ; ) I don't usually object to people voicing their opinions of the actions and statements of public figures, especially if it's done in a courteous and rational way. "I think he was too snide about Texans" is a perfectly acceptable statement to me. What I don't like is watching people dogpile on anyone who rubs them the wrong way, impugning his motives and character and globally condemning him.
Keillor has been called "asshole," "jerk," "nasty piece of work," "pain in the butt," "arrogant" and "bilious," and compared to a hemorrhoid. Good heavens. That's pretty nasty payback for the crime of attempting to amuse people on the radio. You're certainly entitled to not like his show. But why the big hate for the man behind the show? Let it go.
Maybe I'm just sensitive to this because I'm in the entertainment biz myself in a minor kind of way. Critics love to dump on artists, even though they themselves can't create anything. Or perhaps because they can't.
Kirk:
"My fellow liberal elitists are more dependent on other people. I am, that's for sure. I need other people to fix my car, raise my vegetables, build bookshelves, launder my shirts and clean my house, and since I need those people, I should take some passing interest..."
Partial translation:
We liberals are a rather helpless bunch, not doing very much for ouselves in the work-of-the-hand realm (especially writers and entertainers?) so our "concern" for the people we depend upon is not moral superiority at all. We just know who we will answer to if backs are ever up against the wall. Those neighborly, competent Texans will not have anything to fear.
I'm a proud resident of Abilene who wonders why Keillor decided to frame us in reference to GWB and other nonsense. Does he think that Abilenians spend most of their time discussing/defending Bush? We don't. Does he even realize that Texans don't register a party affiliation? And has he considered that many Texans would likely consider themselves independent? Probably not.
I suppose that calling our area as a "khaki-colored desert" was the best fit for his "Bedouins" reference but it's not reality, either, in either respect. Abilene isn't khaki-colored or desert-like, and West Texans tend to stay put, not wander.
We'll accept his back-handed compliments with a public smile and a private shake of our collective heads that people like Keillor just don't get it. West Texans don't need a political party to promote common decency, hospitality, neighborliness, compassion, and concern. That the Democrats apparently do -- and that they only bestow those qualities on people they need to win elections and those who agree with them is telling. That they want to foster dependence on the government foremost and dismiss real relationships and community as Republican-area oddities is rather scary.
As a West Texan, however, the upcoming election doesn't make me fearful, even if the far-left candidate wins, which is likely. And that's a tribute to "quaint" Abilene and our way of life here.
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