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The economy: worse than you think

Sunday October 19, 2008

This weekend, I got around to listening to the October 3 episode of "This American Life," which explains in layman's terms how we got into this godawful economic mess. I tell you, it was fantastic. It's the best thing I've heard anywhere on this topic. I believe I linked to an earlier TAL episode that did the same thing, and was widely praised; the October 6 episode was a follow-up. There is no transcript available, but it seems that you can download that program for 95 cents from this page on the show's website, or get it for free in iTunes. If you do have to pay for it, it'll be the best 95 cents you spend all week, trust me.

A couple of things from the show stood out in particular, and I feel so strongly that I need to share them with you that I'm sitting here at the computer transcribing those sections of the show. The main idea that I took away from it is that these Wall Street people have been behaving with criminally insane recklessness with derivatives and credit default swaps. Listening to the financial experts on the show explain what credit default swamps are, and how they worked, I could hardly believe that this was legal. But it was -- and nobody in Washington wanted to regulate them. Phil Gramm introduced an amendment to an omnibus funding bill late in 2000, that would have banned regulating CDSs. The Senate voted 95-0 to accept Gramm's proposal. Here's host Ira Glass:

"In other words, this cannot be laid at the feet of Phil Gramm. This was a bipartisan decision, with Clinton appointees at the Treasury Department and the Securities and Exchange Commission joining Fed chairman Alan Greenspan, all saying that credit default swaps and things like them should not be regulated."

Had the CDSs been regulated like the insurance that they were, those issuing them would have been forced to have had the capital on reserve to back them up. They weren't, so they didn't. The CDS market was worth $60 trillion -- and it was built largely on bulls--t. Seriously, you really have to listen to this program to grasp how completely unsustainable this market was, and could not help being. It was an extremely complex -- almost unimaginably complex -- scam. It makes Las Vegas gamblers look like a colloquy of small-town Presbyterian elders. All those Wall Street lobbyists in Washington bought off the politicians. And they all lied to each other. A former regulator tells Ira that back in 1998, it became pretty clear that these financial instruments ought to be regulated, and he and others made that argument. But the Clinton administration and Congress said no, these things are only engaged in by smart people who knew what they were doing and could be trusted. And now look.

Another point: Satyajit Das, a risk consultant who's been involved in this business for 30 years, said that the credit default swap mess, the mortgage-backed securities and all the other aspects of this crisis, are all manifestations of a single massive problem: debt. Over the last 30 years, far too many people piled up far too much debt. And now it's all coming crashing down. Das:

"There will be enormous, enormous losses which will beggar belief. When economic historians come to write the history of this period, they will look at this and go, 'My God, how did they manage to do this?' We don't even understand the quantum of the problem."

He said that not too long ago, Ben Bernanke, who is one of the smartest people in the world on this stuff, testified that the losses were going to be topped off at $50 billion, and was contained. If Bernanke doesn't really know what's going on...

The show concludes with an interview with NPR's economics reporter Adam Davidson, who sums up the situation thus: "It is a severe and scary crisis, and the more I report it, the more scared I have been. ... All these dire warnings that you're hearing, they're not Wall Street fatcats trying to make a lot of money. This is serious."

Now, with that in your mind, read this long post by Sharon Astyk, about the responsibilities that now fall to us ordinary people to respond to the present and future economic cataclysm. Here's how it starts:

In the last few weeks, we have taken a society that already had inequities between rich and poor greater than most societies in human history, and transferred more wealth to the preservation of rich bankers. Just now, finally, the mainstream media is beginning to admit that the bailout isn't going to save us from a massive recession/depression. What hasn't yet penetrated most people's awareness is that we just sold off a good bit of our future.

We just gave the money we were going to spend on renewable energy infrastructure to banks. We just gave them the price of affordable health care. We gave them the money we might have spent on insulation, on sustainable transport networks, on relocalizing schools so that our kids' education isn't mortgaged by energy costs and on a host of other things.

My son anxiously wanted to know if he would have to go out and protest his government. And of course, one of my most fervent prayers is that things will be better for him - and the only possible way that that will happen is if we rebell now against the increasing inequity and misallocation of our resources.


I'm not calling for violent overthrow - if for no other reason than violent overthrow of anything involves a lot of destruction of resources we can't afford. But I admit, I wonder, when we will decide that our government is sufficiently tyrannical that we can't tolerate the way it treats us, that we cannot bear to see our future mortgaged and ordinary people impoverished? When will we say "no more" and put our backs behind that principle?

Howard Zinn speculates that the reason the New Deal and the reallocation of resources of the 1930s and early 40s were so successful is that overwhelmingly, people were finding solutions to their problems without government intervention - and that had they continued to do so, they might have decided to do without governments all together. As populist labor movements, strategies like penny auctions and local refusals to foreclose, and self-help strategies began to work, it became obvious to the wealthy that they had to respond, or become rapidly irrelevant.

It is that kind of rebellion I think we shall need - we are going to need the ordinary resistance of ordinary people to face the coming energy, climate and economic crisis. And I hope and pray that we will do it soon - because I do not believe that good parents cast off their burdens on to future generations. John Adams wrote "I am a soldier so that my son can be a farmer, and his son can be a poet." I don't want my children to have to fight my battles - I want them to be able to choose, because their parents chose rightly.

Ordinary resistance of ordinary people. That makes sense to me. Now, let's put some meat on those bones.

One last thing: I've heard some people say that the US is headed into a "lost decade," like Japan did in the 1990s, unable to pull out of its doldrums. That may be, but as a writer in the NYT pointed out in a piece discussing the parallels between the US now and Japan then:


Still, America lacks several advantages Japan had as it grappled with the aftermath of its burst bubbles. The most obvious one is that Japan began its Lost Decade as the world's largest creditor nation, and it still is. By contrast, America is now, as it was then, the world's biggest debtor nation. Just to make the United States government run we need to borrow $2 billion a day from increasingly nervous lenders overseas, including the Japanese.

For the moment, it is in the best interest of America's creditors to keep the spigot open, but when and if that changes, watch out. Some estimates have the federal deficit weighing in at over $750 billion next year.

That's not the biggest ever as a percentage of total economic output, but it's up there; and it's not clear how that number is going to get smaller any time soon. What's more, whereas America has a negative savings rate and its citizens are neck-deep in debt, the Japanese have remained fanatical savers, frugal to a fault.

That's why when people ask me now if we are turning Japanese, I no longer tell them: "No Way!" Now I tell them: "If we are lucky."

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Comments
Shelley
October 20, 2008 8:07 PM

Anne and Old Susan
How about getting involved in your local community? How about joining Code Pink and trying to help coordinate helping single mothers facing foreclosure? How about volunteering at your local woman's shelter? How about teaching classes to teen mothers in basics like nutritious cooking on food stamps....

That is what I am talking about...

Yes...what can we do about 401K's...how about getting the guy at your church who happens to be an investment manager to offer FREE clinics to those close to retirement to help them to restructure thier 401K. Perhaps planning with neightbors to plant a neighborhood garden.

Who said "Jesus is coming"
Did somebody else? I don't recall that. There are no chicken littles here. I do recall the guy talking about the AK-47 to keep the neighbors away. Of course that is exactly the opposite response I wouldhope to see in a true emergency.

Why do you get so upset when people talk about the economy being bad and how to prepare for it?

Golly Gee Whiz Cynical
October 20, 2008 11:35 PM

Damn Cynical
October 20, 2008 3:24 PM
"There's no glory in being a jerk hiding behind a pseudonym, son. Heh."

Rodney,

Per your own criteria, then you must also delete the posts of:

Daniel October 19, 2008 11:20 PM
godisaheretic October 20, 2008 12:07 AM
Nightstalker October 20, 2008 12:59 AM
B. Minich October 20, 2008 1:17 AM
The Mighty Favog October 20, 2008 2:30 AM
AnotherBeliever October 20, 2008 4:13 AM
Other Jim October 20, 2008 5:57 AM
EricW October 20, 2008 6:43 AM
sigaliris October 20, 2008 7:25 AM
Stevereno October 20, 2008 7:42 AM
Anne October 20, 2008 8:16 AM
Anne October 20, 2008 8:26 AM
MI October 20, 2008 8:36 AM
jim r October 20, 2008 8:42 AM
Goodguyex October 20, 2008 9:30 AM
Goodguyex October 20, 2008 9:43 AM
Barb October 20, 2008 10:01 AM
Jim P October 20, 2008 10:07 AM
Barb October 20, 2008 10:07 AM
Jason October 20, 2008 10:47 AM
steve October 20, 2008 10:52 AM
MI October 20, 2008 11:27 AM
Anne October 20, 2008 12:02 PM
Shelley October 20, 2008 2:01 PM
Anne October 20, 2008 2:59 PM
steve October 20, 2008 4:08 PM
Old Susan October 20, 2008 4:41 PM
Old Susan October 20, 2008 5:57 PM
steve October 20, 2008 6:42 PM
Tad October 20, 2008 7:11 PM
Anne October 20, 2008 7:34 PM
Shelley October 20, 2008 8:07 PM
Rodney, dear, each of the above represents either a pseudonym or the failure of the poster to include his/her first and last names. As such and by your own previously established criteria, each must be deleted.

We wouldn't St. Peter to think of us as a hypocrite now, would we, Rodney?

MI
October 21, 2008 7:51 AM

MI- Did you see this one on Canada? Via Cowen.

Yup, I did. (MR is a regular stop of mine; I concur with your assessment of Cowen.) A bit short on detail, but still interesting. IMHO, going forward, we would do well to study how other countries have structured their mortgage markets.

mike
October 21, 2008 2:48 PM

Juicy factoid: When the postal banks went private in Sept 2007, they discovered there was TWICE the GDP of Germany socked away in those accounts! Apparently, this easily made it the world's biggest bank with assets of 3 trillion dollars.

mike
October 21, 2008 5:09 PM

addendum to previous posting. this is referring to Japan's postal banking system!

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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