Crunchy Con

The kindness of a stranger

Wednesday October 29, 2008

Categories: Ah, Texas
You want to see what it means to love one's neighbor? Marilyn Mock, who lives in the Dallas suburb of Rockwall, went to a foreclosure auction with her grown son last weekend to be with him as he purchased his...
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Z
October 29, 2008 2:41 PM

That is beautiful, Rod.

MI
October 29, 2008 3:20 PM

A ray of light in the gathering darkness.

Minor quibble: My understanding of RE law is limited, but AFAIK Ms. Orr's house wasn't "saved" from _foreclosure_. The fact that Ms. Mock purchased the house in question _at auction_ indicates that foreclosure had already begun. (Inter alia, this will presumably be reflected on Ms. Orr's credit report, even if Ms. Mock is entirely paid off.) Ms. Orr _was_ saved from the eviction that would've occurred had she continued to inhabit the house after its purchase by a less sympathetic buyer.

I do wonder what the outstanding principal was on that mortgage. Either a lot had already been paid down, or at least one bank in that area is no longer bidding "total indebtedness" at FC auctions (which would be an interesting data point).

allbetsareoff
October 29, 2008 3:29 PM

A wonderful story. I pray that others who can help in cases like this will do so.

Joel
October 29, 2008 3:51 PM

C'mon folks, someone's gotta say it: consumptive morons who bought more house than they could afford and are now losing it do not deserve our sympathy. At least, no more than an arm around the shoulder and a "try not to let it happen again, 'K?"

When I bought my house it was quite a bit smaller and less expensive than what I could have bought. The bank would have loaned me a LOT more. But I stayed well within my means, and I'm fine today. No foreclosure, no auction, no eviction. Is Marilyn going to get teary-eyed and give me money, too? Or does she only help stupid people?

Nice lady, I'm sure, but seriously misguided in her sympathies.

Franklin Evans
October 29, 2008 3:53 PM

A significant segment of the foreclosures -- how much I don't know, but I suppose one could find out with some research -- are those sub-prime mortgages to homeowners that started out as adjustable rates with payments they could afford, but ballooned at the end of the ARM period making them untenable. One must wonder about the business decision to just let the rate increases create foreclosures (lose-lose) instead of holding the rates at a level that would permit at least some of those homeowners to continue paying.

fbc
October 29, 2008 4:36 PM

What Joel is assuming is that people who end up in foreclosure are necessarily at fault.

It is sometimes true that they are.

But I see many, many people in my bankruptcy practice who have lost their houses because they lost their jobs and had to go to work for a small percentage of their former salary.

In fact, my mid-western city lost nearly 30,000 high-paying tech jobs between 2002 and 2005. People literally went from making 80k salaries, to 25k incomes (after having been unemployed for months.)

NOLA Gian
October 29, 2008 4:46 PM

Yeah, Joel. Read the article. Ms. Orr had been a postal worker & lost her job a month after she bought the house for $80K. Now she works as a housekeeper.

treebeard
October 29, 2008 4:53 PM

Wow. This brings tears to my eyes. Thanks, Rod.

Joel
October 29, 2008 5:11 PM

NOLA gian and fbc:

You're right, I'm wrong. Ms. Orr is not a "consumptive moron" as I wrote. She is, in fact, a drunk driver who got fired from her job.

Everything else that I wrote stands.

e
October 29, 2008 5:35 PM

My spouse and I were approved for a large mortgage and we instead bought a house for 34k out of money we had sitting in the bank account. Our neighborhood is very modest and full of people struggling much more than we are (we aren't, so far). It's true that greed and stupidity led to many of the foreclosures that are happening, but when you're talking about houses in the 20-50k type of range, like the one in the article, these were generally purchased by people who didn't have much to work with in the first place. They weren't necessarily buying "too much" house; the next step down financially from where they are is basically to be a renter (which is fully miserable when you don't have enough money for a decent place or when you're older than 22) or homeless, begging friends or family for a place to sleep. There are a whole lot more people than some may think who could afford to do what this lady has done. I wouldn't see any good reason to rescue some dual income family who's overconsumed and foreclosed in their big new house, but I will love to see more people helping those struggling further down the chain.

mccxxiii
October 29, 2008 5:42 PM

I'm a lot older than 22 and I'm a renter. And I'm hardly "fully miserable" about it. I think I'm pretty much in the cat-bird seat these days.

MI
October 29, 2008 6:07 PM

One must wonder about the business decision to just let the rate increases create foreclosures (lose-lose) instead of holding the rates at a level that would permit at least some of those homeowners to continue paying.

They made perfect business sense, as long as one assumed that housing would continue indefinitely appreciate at an abnormally-high rate. Or as long as one acted early enough in the housing bubble so as not to get caught holding the bag.

Seriously, though, I agree that any prudent loan officer ought to have shuddered at even considering - let alone making - such mortgages.

e
October 29, 2008 6:44 PM

mccxxiii, you must have a decent place. :)

Your Name
October 29, 2008 6:59 PM

Only MI has made part of the point I would make. I don't think this story is as heartwarming as all that. Ms. Mock saved Ms. Orr from eviction. As MI points out, Ms. Orr will still have a foreclosure on her credit record. But legally all she is is Marilyn Mock's rental tenant. I think people are misunderstanding this story. If this deal falls apart at some point, the house will be Marilyn Mock's. The transaction didn't give Ms. Orr her ownership rights back.

MI
October 29, 2008 7:40 PM

Only MI has made part of the point I would make. I don't think this story is as heartwarming as all that. Ms. Mock saved Ms. Orr from eviction. As MI points out, Ms. Orr will still have a foreclosure on her credit record. But legally all she is is Marilyn Mock's rental tenant.

By way of clarification, my 3:20 post was mainly a quibble about incorrect use of the term "foreclosure".

I do find this story rather heartwarming. Yes, I can still see potential potholes in Ms. Orr's future; but at the very least, she has staved off eviction for some time to come, and gained a landlord/creditor who is likely to be more understanding than the bank that foreclosed on her. It's not perfect, but it's a step up from where she otherwise would've been. And all this was done through the generosity of a complete stranger. There is something noteworthy about that.

Amy P.
October 29, 2008 8:16 PM

Joel:

And people aren't allowed to screw up? If you watch the news report video accompanying the article you'd see that Orr's house is hardly the Taj Mahal. I won't quibble that there's a fine line between charity and enabling bad behaviors, but losing a house is a devestating thing. I should know. My parents, after a spate of unemployment, lost their house in 2006.

I think what Marilyn Mock did is amazing.

RJohnson
October 29, 2008 8:19 PM

Interesting. A Christian reads this story and see Christ acting thorough Marilyn Mock. A conservative reads this story and sees a reason to complain.

iw
October 29, 2008 8:59 PM

Brings tears to my eyes also. She bought the house for $80,000 and Ms Mock bought it for $30,00. The taxpayers got shafted for $50,000. The Orr's now owe $50,000 to a collection agency. They also owe $50,000 in capital gains tax. How does a postal worker lose their job? It's not a liberal or conservative thing, or huggy either, an irresponsible act was done. Uncle Sugar had better crank up the printing presses to cover all that's coming. Read that Ms Mock had to finance a truck that was clear to buy the house, pretty stupid. Call me insensitive, I see too many that won't get out of the cart and help push.

Mary
October 29, 2008 9:37 PM
http://marycatelli.livejournal.com/

Given that she could only buy it by being the highest bidder -- in actuality, she probably brought a little more to the table.

It's not like someone was going to hop up with the 80,000 and buy it. 'Cause if someone was, they would have done it.

Erin Manning
October 29, 2008 10:23 PM

It's interesting; in all those complaining about what Ms. Mock did, I keep hearing echoes of other complainers, e.g. "that jar of perfume could have been sold and the profit given to the poor," "those people who got hired at the end of the day shouldn't have been paid as much as we were paid," and so on.

Ms. Mock did a lovely thing: she treated Ms. Orr as a fellow human being, as a neighbor. If we all treated each other that way for a single day--well, I can't even imagine it.

Nightstalker
October 29, 2008 10:45 PM

I did that once for my in-laws. They defaulted and I ended up losing my home too.

I'd probably do it again, but not for the in-laws, if the right situation appeared.

RJohnson
October 29, 2008 11:12 PM

"Ms. Mock did a lovely thing: she treated Ms. Orr as a fellow human being, as a neighbor. If we all treated each other that way for a single day--well, I can't even imagine it."

Unfortunately, neither can I, Erin. I am reminded of the parable of the Good Samaritan. The fellow on the side of the road obviously did something terrible to get there. Maybe he was ceremonially unclean and touched a priest that day. Or maybe he was drunk as he travelled, and fell into the wrong part of the neighborhood because of that.

I find it funny that we never learned how the man ended up on the side of the road other than that he was robbed and left injured. Did he deserve his fate? Perhaps so...perhaps it was his foolishness that put him in that predicament. But that does not diminish the good actions of the Samaritan.

And we should not let it diminish the good actions of Ms. Mock, in spite of what the priests and Levites here might think or say.

Bob
October 29, 2008 11:52 PM

We may not know all of the details. But Ms. Mock gave someone a second chance completely out of grace. That was a Christlike action. How many of us deserve a Christlike action? 0%. We stand utterly dependent upon the grace of God, dependent upon the Angels and Good Samaritans of this world. Thank God that they are still among us.

Garvey
October 30, 2008 10:34 AM

I sure hope I am not judged by the filthy rags of my self-righteousness as Mother Teresa thought we would be. Instead, the judge Himself has already paid my price of the judgment I deserve with His precious blood. Hard to shake that vestigial Catholicism, eh, Rod?

Kevin
October 30, 2008 11:27 AM

Mr. Garvey:

What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith
but does not have works? Can faith save him?...But do you want
to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?...You
see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith
only. James 2:14,20,24

It never ceases to astonish me how people who feign that they are "Bible-believing" intentionally ignore this and other verses when they attempt to justify the unbiblical Protestant fantasy of "Salvation by faith alone." Like Rod, I'm Orthodox. Unlike the self-named "Bible-believing Christians," we Orthodox are not at liberty to use Scripture as a source of proof texts for whatever individual beliefs we've chosen beforehand to hold, ignoring passages that contradict our chosen beliefs. We are compelled to receive the whole of Scripture. We cannot say that some words of the Lord and His Apostles are golden and others rubbish.

You have correctly diagnosed yourself as "self-righteous," but have misapplied the diagnosis. Whenever you have shown love and compassion for your neighbor, you have been self-righteous, but have rather pleased the Lord greatly by showing Him that your faith is real and not self-consumed, but open to loving one's neighbor as oneself (cfr. Luke 10:27). Your self-righteousness consists rather of the conceit that you can use the Bible to prove precisely the opposite of what is taught by the Lord Himself and His Apostles.

Ms. Mock has amply loved her neighbor in the sight of God. Financially, it may yet prove to be a foolish decision, but there are far worse things than to be a fool for the sake of Christ.

As for yourself, Mr. Garvey, you could do far worse than to actually read the Epistle of St. James and the parable of the Good Samaritan, with its introductory verses. I mean read to understand. Not cherry-pick, looking to prove some pet doctrine.

Kevin

Kevin
October 30, 2008 11:34 AM

Okay, that should be "Whenever you have shown love and compassion for your neighbor, you have NOT been self-righteous..." Grr. Sorry about that.

Kevin

RJohnson
October 30, 2008 11:48 AM

"I sure hope I am not judged by the filthy rags of my self-righteousness as Mother Teresa thought we would be."

My concern is that I am able to give a good answer to the question, "what did you do with that which I gave you?"

dymphna
October 30, 2008 12:04 PM

God bless Ms. Mock but she'll probably end up regretting this.

Darryl
October 30, 2008 2:11 PM

Marilyn Mock has been exceptionally kind to a stranger. I was equally delighted by the relaxed mental attitude she displayed in her generosity. I see nothing that would indicated any self-righteousness was involved.

Kevin, in his indignation, has distorted a post-salvation passage. The Bible is absolutely clear that eternal salvation is by grace through faith, and not of works (Eph 2:8-9; Gen 15:6). James was clearly addressing saved individuals, as evidenced by his vocative "brethren". The active use of "pistos" in James 2 is referring to the faith function of the Christian, which can not function, as mandated by the scripture, apart from the confidence of salvation and resultant eternal security.

jim So OR
October 31, 2008 11:24 AM

How much do you want to bet that Marilyn Mock votes REPUBLICIAN?

One of the bright spots in a time of economic turmoil.If more people would do what she did for Ms Orr this country would be a much better place.

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