Crunchy Con

Two consoling things about an Obama win

Thursday October 30, 2008

Categories: Democrats, Food, Race
1. Obama's reading Michael Pollan, and taking him seriously. Excerpt from O's Joe Klein interview: I was just reading an article in the New York Times by Michael Pollan about food and the fact that our entire agricultural system is...
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The Dark Knightmare
October 30, 2008 8:11 AM

2. We all will have lived to see the moment when a 109-year-old black woman whose father was a slave cast her ballot for the first black president. God bless America.

Barack Hussein Obama is not a black man. He's half white - i.e., a mulatto.

He is claiming to unite, not divide, America. He is as much a white man as he is a black man. Whites who vote for Obama are as much voting for a white man as blacks who vote for Obama are voting for a black man.

Until people - Americans, reporters, pundits, gang members, churchgoers, drug users, politicians, beer drinkers, movie watchers, etc. - stop promoting and aiding and abetting the "one drop" rule whereby anyone with any "black" blood in him or her is thereby a "black man" or a "black woman," the very things they say and write will enforce and reinforce continued racism. And those who are both black and white should aid the cause by refusing to be pegged as being only one or the other.

Rob
October 30, 2008 9:45 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_South_Africa_in_the_apartheid_era

Yes, exactly. Why hasn't someone else thought of this? If only we stopped calling partially black people black, and called them 'mulatto' (presumably this would include a purity test that would be administered to both blacks and whites to make sure no one who was actually mulatto slipped into either of those pure categories?) -- then racism would end. If only we had some historical example by which we could prove or disprove the validity of this assertion...

Rob
October 30, 2008 9:48 AM

On second thought, I probably shouldn't be aiding and abetting the threadjacker... the original thoughts (about Pollan, about Ms. Jones) are dead on. Must remember I cannot help everyone who is wrong on the internet...

Mike
October 30, 2008 9:51 AM

The characteristic about Obama that consoles me is also the thing that frightens me. Besides not being in line with my overall political philosophy I am sure Obama wants to be great. He writes much about Lincoln, Roosevelt, Kennedy as pivotal figures. He will want to be like them, and remembered as the latests of this gene of presidents. OK, this consoles me, Obama wants to be a good and great president.

Obama sees the culture war and the 50/50 nation and wants to bring this to an end. OK, this is a problem for me. How is that going to be done? He thinks maybe by winning it, or perhaps by distracting the public into other areas. Did Lincoln and Roosevelt get caught up in the mystique of wanting to be great historical figures when they were president? Did Kennedy do this?

Does anyone remember Lincoln's educational policy? No, he is remembered for the issues relating to the civil war. Roosevelt and his New Deal would not be all that remembered if it were not for World War II. That's fine, I guess. But maybe do-nothing presidents are under rated. I think Obama will try to copy Roosevelt with a new New Deal and when this also does not work, a major civilization killing war.

Scott in PA
October 30, 2008 10:00 AM

The Clintons will be finished.

Insane Kitten
October 30, 2008 10:05 AM

Hey Scott-- don't count out Chelsea just yet! ;-)

Charles Cosimano
October 30, 2008 10:37 AM

Remember this. IF Obama wins, the Democrats have two years to bring back cheap fuel, by whatever means necessary, or they will be out of power in Congress.

Forget everything else. That is what the voters want and that is what they will get.

EricW
October 30, 2008 10:45 AM

Hmmm...

Gas is already getting close to $2 a gallon again, almost half of what it was only a couple or a few months ago. I don't think cheap fuel is going to be a problem for President Obama and Co., unless we have a Middle-East flareup that drives oil prices sky-high again.

However, the chances of that happening in the next 2 years, or certainly in the next 4 years, are probably pretty good, methinks.

Linda
October 30, 2008 10:50 AM

After 8 years of having a president who stubbornly sticks with his own personal views no matter what, it will be great to have a president who reads, learns from what he's read, and modifies his stance on issues based on what he's learned.

Teddy Roosevelt was like that; he didn't believe in any kind of government regulation at all until he read "The Jungle" and other works by the "muckrakers" of his day.

Doug Cramer
October 30, 2008 10:53 AM

Mike: My belief, strengthened after watching the 30 minute obamamercial, is that Obama has a very specific strategy for getting people to work together across cultural, racial and other divides: at it's core is simply the "working together" part. I don't think Obama will hit culture war issues head on; his rhetorical and strategic styles lean instead towards hitting issues at off-angles, like movement in aikido or finding the line when splitting wood. For example, policies that encourage a lot of local farmer's markets might take off in an Obama administration, because not only do they address food and health, but they get folks of all different walks of life working together and buying from each other. That's "community organizing 101" and I think it could play well at a national level. "Act local" becomes easier to execute with someone as chief administrator well-steeped in local dynamics.

My mulatto children aren't here at the moment, but I'm sure they'd approve this message. Oh, and since according to some they're not "black", how does that square with their small amount of Native American blood? Since we're counting bloodlines, would folks recommend I start looking at reservation real estate? And I've got to get on the geneaology bandwagon. My Swiss ancestry could mean some long lost banking relative, I suppose, who just killed himself in despair of the financial crisis and I could inherit a castle or something.

It's so much fun to tell people what race they are and what name they should use for themselves, rather than asking them and taking that in to account!

;-)

Bless,
Doug

Doug Cramer
October 30, 2008 11:00 AM

And I know this was Rod's main point, but can we crunchies just stop for a minute and appreciate the prospect of a president familiar with Pollan's work?

I mean, come on! What are the chances of W. ever picking up the man's work, let alone engaging with it honestly and having it influence his decision making in any form?

So what if Obama still supports ethanol? He's a presidential candidate, of course he does! It's in the rulebook somewhere, I think. Let's see what happens over the coming months and years, and be hopeful about this interesting development.

(Unless you're already convinced Obama Stormcrow's arrival heralds our impending doom, in which case please just carry on. No optimism for you!)

Bless,
Doug

Rod Dreher
October 30, 2008 11:15 AM

Why is gas getting close to $2 a gallon? Because the bottom is falling out of the economy, and demand is anticipated to plummet. Can't have growth and cheap gas anymore.

Tom in TX
October 30, 2008 11:19 AM

It would be great to end the ethanol subsidy, but I doubt that Obama will do it. Iowa is a big corn-producing state. It is also the state with the first contest in the Presidential election cycle.

If the first contest was in Idaho, we would be subsidizing ethanol made from potatoes. 8-(

Doug Cramer
October 30, 2008 11:37 AM

Speaking of gas prices, I know this isn't for everyone but since rejiggering (uh oh, can I say that? Or is a white guy saying "jigger" as bad as a mulatto calling himself "black"?) my work/living arrangements so as to be mostly based close to downtown Santa Fe, my bicycle gets used almost daily but my car can go 3-4 days without being started. (Not to mention walking everywhere.)

Even if gas comes down, car financing and repairs are going to most likely go way up, so it still makes sense to work on modifying one's car-dependent habits. Having biked and bike-commuted everywhere from Tucson, AZ and Worcester, MA, to rural northern CO, I have to say that weather, traffic, or related excuses for not going all out with a bicycle are pretty flimsy. Unless you've got a serious health issue, or literally have to have a child or two with you every single time you go somewhere, there is no good reason to not take up regular bicycling.

"The bicycle is a curious vehicle. Its passenger is its engine." - John Howard, US Olympic cyclist

So come on crunchies, I suppose it's off-topic but are there any other cyclists out there with some motivating stories?

Bless,
Doug

Leta
October 30, 2008 1:06 PM

I, too, think corn based ethanol is ridiculous. A prime example of expidient politics over well-reasoned policy.

The story of the 109 year old voter brought tears to my eyes. How wonderful for her and her family. The fact that this woman paid poll taxes to vote on a $20 a month salary makes me tingle inside, and makes me even more of a believer in democracy.

BrianF
October 30, 2008 1:34 PM

ADM is going to be Obama's Haliburton.

readerOfTeaLeaves
October 30, 2008 1:45 PM

FWIW, if I look at photos of my school classmates through the 1960s and early 70s, it was very rare to see an overweight kid. Then we all grew up, became middle aged commuters, and packed on weight while nearly killing ourselves carpooling kids to soccer -- and then staying up too bloody late finishing up the day's work. At least, those of us without nannies (!).

Now, drive by my local schools and I see the number of kids who are a bit pudgy, and it shocks me.

I've had to work years to get the weight off from endless hours sitting on tarmacs, freeways, and in meetings. It's no way to live, and it disgusts me that I can't deduct health club expenses from my taxes -- if I'm at least trying to be healthy, which is a socially responsible act, then why can't the government incentive good conduct?!

To have a president of ANY party who connects the food supply, the economy, energy use, and health into one coherent theme called "food production" would be a huge improvement over the stupidity we've labored under.

This is one area where I respect Bill Clinton, Huckabee, and Obama - and my sense is that a whole lot of people need to bury some hatchets and pay more attention to the food that's making us all overweight, and the lack of parks and recreation programs that are impacting children's health and learning.

This nexus of problems should not be 'owned' by any party or politician.
Everyone needs to be talking about this, and figuring out how to see the ripple effects of our food policies.

Cassie
October 30, 2008 2:42 PM

Isn't point 2 a bit premature? Obama isn't president yet. Perhaps an edit to "first major party black presidential candidate" would be appropriate?

stefanie
October 30, 2008 4:43 PM

readeroftealeaves: FWIW, if I look at photos of my school classmates through the 1960s and early 70s, it was very rare to see an overweight kid. Then we all grew up, became middle aged commuters, and packed on weight while nearly killing ourselves carpooling kids to soccer -- and then staying up too bloody late finishing up the day's work ...

ROTL, a fair # of people gain weight in middle age.

As far as "not seeing an overweight kid," I was a teen in the 1960s/early 1970s too, and there were fat kids in all my schools, in two different cities half a continent away.

Less than we observe today, I will admit. But I think what you are seeing today is that fatter people probably have been having more children - and passing those genes on to their kids. It makes sense, as Hispanics and African-Americans have much higher rates of obesity - and far more children than whites, too.

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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