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YWB demonstrates backyard dowsing

Friday October 17, 2008

Categories: Varia
My mom and dad were here last weekend visiting, and we talked about the whole dowsing thing. I straightened out and clipped a couple of coathangers so we could try it here. As usual, when my dad stepped over a...
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wassercom
October 17, 2008 8:04 AM

Very interesting...but it sure looks like your lawn could use an application of nonorganic fertilizer. Maybe an application of a preemergent herbicide, too. Heh.

David Chirico
October 17, 2008 8:35 AM

A local man. who unfortunately died a few years back, was able to find water for me and several of my neighbors. It was amazing. He used a limb from a peach tree and could tell the difference between good clean water and bad water by the way the stick bounced in his hand. He also used a glass cup of spring water and a gold ring on a string to tell how deep the water would be.

On the top of our hill (elevation 1700 ft) his peach limb found good water- lots of it, according to him, then he used the glass to find out it would be roughly 95 feet or so. When the well driller came in he hit tons of perfect water at 98 feet.

Several of us tried the peach limb, but it wouldn't work for us. We can use the wire hangers, but not the limb. It was a shame too, he was getting up in years and wanted to pass his stuff on to someone, don't know if he ever found anyone.

Stuart Buck
October 17, 2008 10:56 AM

Is there any chance that you could be subconsciously affecting the movement of the hangers?

Fr. Dcn. Raphael
October 17, 2008 11:06 AM
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Rod, I don't think its wise for an Orthodox Christian to particiapte in any form of "divination."

MH
October 17, 2008 11:32 AM

I would be more convinced if your experimental controls were better. Basically you know where the water line is in your yard which means you can sub-consciously influence the position of your hands. You really need to test this in a double blind manner. The person who buries the water can not participate in the experiment. In that way the recorder of the experiment can't influence the outcome either.

If you pull this off in a double blind manner then get to JREF right away as they have one million dollar paranormal ability challenge.

My guess is that you'll find with strong experimental controls the ability goes away or yields inaccurate information.

Charles Cosimano
October 17, 2008 11:45 AM

Good for you Rod!

I've always held that no matter who divergent the lives and views of people are there is always at least one piece of common ground. In this case--dowsing!

Roland de Chanson
October 17, 2008 12:43 PM

It is significant that you have somehow transmitted the power to Lucas but reversed since his right-hand rod turned the opposite of what you would expect. You should switch hands (holding his right hand instead of the left) and check the results. Also, do the same with Julie since she does not have the power either.

You and Matthew seem to have the opposite polarity from your dad. You and your dad should hold hands and try it to see which way the rods move.

This is very eerie. I am beginning to believe there is more to this than meets the eye.

forestwalker
October 17, 2008 1:20 PM

Raph,
I'm not sure this can be called divination. No spirits are being called on. My grandmother, for example, held that dowsing was real. She didn't apply any paranormal explanation to it, though. To her mind it was just something that worked, like a compass.

Marty
October 17, 2008 2:23 PM

I would have to agree with forestwalker. I have been around people all my life who dowse for water before drilling wells. No one thinks this is some sort of occult thing. Most of the dowsers or "water witchers" I know are often evangelical Christians of the type that think Harry Potter and yoga should be avoided. They rather think it's like being able to tap into sensitivity to natural things that normal people can't pick up on. Kind of like those seizure dogs that know when their owner is going to have a seizure and warn them ahead of time. It's probably some sort of electromagnetic force field thing.

MH
October 17, 2008 3:06 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing

The Wikipedia article on this topic is worth a read.

fdr
October 17, 2008 3:10 PM

Yeah, its probably MY fundamentlist baggage that makes me react so.....

sigaliris
October 17, 2008 3:38 PM

I think "Seizure Dogs" will be the name of my next death-metal band. It has a ring to it.

I just went out in the back yard, pulled a couple of yew twigs out of the trimmings, held one in each hand and marched around the yard. No reaction to the place where I thought there'd be water--where the willow tree grew, before it fell over one soggy spring. However, as I passed the tomato patch, not really thinking about it, the sticks crossed over each other. And then uncrossed. And then crossed again near the dogwood tree, where the grass is very lush and green. I tried it with my eyes closed so I didn't know exactly where I was, and it happened just the same. Of course, I have no idea if there is water under there, and I'm not about to excavate five feet of rocks to find out. Maybe I'll have Mr. Sig try it when he gets home. Unlike me, he has no Irish in him and has never made the slightest claim to be psychic, so he'd be a good test case. ; )

So far I see two possibilities: 1. We're all psychic.
2. We're all making this up, and deluding ourselves into believing we're not.
No, wait--three! Three possibilities!
3. We're all sensing some physical phenomenon of which we're not fully conscious.
I'll stop there because no one wants to bring the Spanish Inquisition into this . . . .

Rod Dreher
October 17, 2008 3:53 PM

The thing is, I didn't know that there was a pipe there. I figured that it might be there, given where the faucet is, but I wasn't sure. Anyway, how would you explain the wires moving in Lucas's hand when he didn't know what was going on, and wasn't even watching me and the wire in my hand, but rather was looking straight ahead?

I don't think there's anything spiritual going on; rather, I think it is a form of physical sensitivity that we can't fully explain yet. If I were to be convinced that there is a spiritual component to it, I would definitely not mess with this.

MH
October 17, 2008 4:31 PM

sigaliris, nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Sorry I couldn't resist.

Salamander
October 17, 2008 8:56 PM

I will have to give this a try in my backyard! I don't know where my water mains are.

I don't think dowsing is like divination or sorcery; I do think it is a so-far-unexplained (but not necessarily inexplicable) ability to pick up on subtle physical evidence. Someone mentioned seizure dogs; I would also point out that there are many documented cases of animals acting very strangely before earthquakes. Animals often pick up very slight changes in their environments that we tune out completely.

This theory would make sense given that Rod and Matthew both have a form of sensory integration disorder, which Rod has referred to in other posts. Both are someone overly sensitive to tastes, smells, environmental stimuli, etc., which is a disadvantage in many aspects of life but clearly can come in handy for locating underground water sources.

I am interested to try this with my family, because my eldest daughter and I are both hypersensitive to a lot of things; whereas my husband and middle daughter are the opposite. So my theory would be that Daughter #1 and I might be able to dowse...I'll let you know what happens!

Tonawanda Catholic
October 17, 2008 9:41 PM

Raphael,

You fundamentalist types are too much...finding a demon under every rock!

(j/k...dowsing freaks me out too!)

Rob
October 17, 2008 10:00 PM

I think there is an important difference between what Rod is doing and "divination."

In divination, one would typically "charge" the instrument with intent, incantation, prayer, etc. Rod and family are just putting a wire in their hands and seeing where it goes. There certainly are dowsers who divine, and dowsers who attempt to locate, for instance, ghosts, discarnate spirits, energy residues of emotional trauma, and the like, and dowsers who do their work remotely. Rod and family will have to draw their own line. But from where I draw mine, they aren't practicing divination.

Roland de Chanson
October 17, 2008 10:19 PM

Rod Dreher: If I were to be convinced that there is a spiritual component to it, I would definitely not mess with this.

This is exactly the point at which the scientifically curious should begin messing with this. As Einstein said, "God does not play dice with the universe." This is either a phenomenon or it is not. I don't think you are a charlatan. Therefore there must be a rational explanation for this. It's not deviltry; it just awaits explanation.

It is not as if you could eschew the Benedict option and hole up for a decade or two with five barley loaves and two fishes, :-)

Rod Dreher
October 17, 2008 10:52 PM

This theory would make sense given that Rod and Matthew both have a form of sensory integration disorder, which Rod has referred to in other posts. Both are someone overly sensitive to tastes, smells, environmental stimuli, etc., which is a disadvantage in many aspects of life but clearly can come in handy for locating underground water sources.

An interesting point. I mentioned earlier in this thread that Matthew was *really* sensitive with the wires; they began moving several feet from the water source, much earlier than anybody else's. That kid is painfully sensitive. Julie said that today they were at the vet's office for the first time (found a stray dog), and Matthew begged her to leave, describing a pulsating sound he kept hearing that was making him woozy.

Know what it was? The fluorescent lights. He could *hear* them. I think I know now why he has to hear Gregorian chants or the same Bach guitar piece every night, rather loud, to get to sleep. Ambient noise is overwhelming to him. I bet there's a connection between that and his ultrasensitivity to the dowsing stuff.

texasaggiemom
October 19, 2008 5:25 PM

I think the dowsing thing is totally legit and probably does have to do with some heightened sensitivity.

Since someone mentioned seizure dogs and dogs that can "predict" earthquakes, etc., I'll tell you a story about a bird dog we once had. We had just brought her home as a puppy and she preceded to dig a 30 foot trench, complete with a shart right turn that went right along with our underground DSL/cable lines. They were buried 3 feet deep, but she had to have been able to "hear" them to have known where to dig. She made the right turn at the exact spot the wires turned. And, she didn't ever unearth the wires... they were still underground by about 6 inches.

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