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Sarah Python's Flying Circus

Friday November 21, 2008

Categories: Not the Onion
Gov. Palin visits a turkey farm in search of levity. Well, I thought it was pretty damn funny, but probably not for the same reason Sarah does: (Thanks to reader Chris W. for sending this in, and suggesting the headline)....
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EddieInCA
November 21, 2008 5:01 PM

I've lived my entire live pretty large cities, or close by to them. I'm not all the familiar with rural life, so all I can say is...

Wow.

Just wow.

Scott Lahti
November 21, 2008 5:01 PM
http://wordpress.com/tag/scott-lahti/

Old Greybeard Sarah on desert island:

It's...

[cue Gilliam animation]


"God help us, everyone." - Tiny Tom, A Thanksgiving Peril, by Darles Chickens

celticdragon
November 21, 2008 5:08 PM

Quote from the turkey:

"'Elp! 'Elp! I'm bein' repressed, I am! Come see the violence inherent in the system! 'Elp! 'Elp!"

I couldn't resist the ,Monty Python angle... ;)

EVW
November 21, 2008 5:11 PM

Salon's interesting take on it:
http://open.salon.com/content.php?cid=47485

Derek Copold
November 21, 2008 5:26 PM

Salon's right.

The fact that this even gets a rise shows what a bunch of hysterical old women this nation's become. Oh, dear, a turkey being slaughter. Well, yeah, how do you think they wind up on your plate? Transmutation?

Kirk
November 21, 2008 5:37 PM

What the heck is that guy in the background doing with the turkeys?

B. Minich
November 21, 2008 5:40 PM

Sarah: He's not dead, he's pinin' for the fjords!

Butcher: He's not pinin'! He is no more! He has ceased to be!

Philip
November 21, 2008 5:49 PM

In all honesty, the uproar of this video I think is more telling of the ignorance, stupidity and naivete of our culture than it is of Sarah. A turkey was slaughtered. Who cares? It is honestly very shameful that so many in America today are unfamiliar with the process and that they think it is an unusual thing to see.

Linda
November 21, 2008 5:59 PM

Rod, I thought of poor Cleo when I saw that turkey beheading contraption! How's everything going with her...or him...or whatever? :)

John E. - Agn Stoic
November 21, 2008 6:01 PM

Oh, that was just hysterical. I especially enjoyed the fellow's expression alternating between listening to Palin and "this turkey's through kicking - better load up another one."

Grumpy Old Man
November 21, 2008 6:05 PM

If you're not a vegetarian, fuggedabadit.

Vegetarianism won't cut it in the Arctic.

Karen Brown
November 21, 2008 6:19 PM

I don't know. I don't think it was 'wow, they KILL the turkeys. I'm SO shocked'.

It is the irony of being at a scene of 'pardoning' one, at one of those 'lifetsyle'type interviews that you let the kids see, and then having her finish the interview in front of the 'killing fields'.

(BTW, having worked in a turkey processing plant, that isn't the only way, or even the more common way it is done.) n

Rod Dreher
November 21, 2008 7:08 PM

I thought it was funny because there's Sarah, being all you-betcha, while behind her the soon-to-be-slaughtered turkey is kicking its feet awaiting his doom at the hands of the rustic. Maybe I have a black sense of humor, but I thought it was a scream. I don't have anything against slaughtering turkeys, for heaven's sake.

Mr. Cleo, the trannie rooster, is now living on a farm in Parker, TX, overseeing a hen harem. Good on the old boy.

Henrietta22
November 21, 2008 7:17 PM

I didn't watch this on CNN, and I'm not watching it on beliefnet either. There is a right way and a wrong way to do anything. This sounds like some more of Sarah Palins exploits on video. She seems to be around a lot of agony of animals and dead animals every few days. Sensitivity seems to be entirely lacking in her. The turkey she pardoned was probably killed after the video stopped. Alaska is too inhumane for me to even want to visit.

Linda
November 21, 2008 7:43 PM

Wow, good for Cleo! Glad to know he's gone to such a luxurious chicken paradise. My best wishes to him and his ladies.

Well, I guess the video has taught all us city dwellers hard lesson, that turkey does, indeed, come from turkeys.

me
November 21, 2008 7:56 PM

Can I just ask what the deal is with how the guy in the back is killing the turkeys? It seems to take an awfully long time. Granted, I've never had the joy of killing my food myself, but it seems like decapitation should be a bit quicker, ya know?

Henrietta, people like you are the reason people like me are big supporters of PETA*

*People Eating Tasty Animals, that is.

Nathan
November 21, 2008 8:47 PM

Now I know what to get the twins for Christmas!

yarrrr
November 21, 2008 9:13 PM

This is what I love about Palin... she comes without polish... and I like that... when she pardons a turkey you know it's not for show and it has reason to be grateful...

Your NameShelley
November 21, 2008 10:46 PM

By the Way__This is the ONLY turkey and chicken farm I know of in the Anchorage Wasilla area. You pre order those birds and any chickens you may want. (very pricey but yummy) That farmer, well,he's one of those farmers you might read about in Michael Pollan's books and probably reads Wendell Barry. Good for Sarah for promoting his business!____And yep, that's a bird beheader...not slow or painful. And the bird continues to move after it's beheaded which is why you saw all that prolonged twitching.____What I thought was funny was the way the farmer couldn't take his eyes off the governor except when the bird threatened to jump out!! ____ ____

auntiegrav
November 21, 2008 10:51 PM

The time is not for killing, but he's draining the blood so that those city dwellers get that nice, white meat.

sigaliris
November 21, 2008 10:57 PM

This reminded me of the scene in "Babe" where the goose gets up on the roof and hollers "Christmas means caaaarnage!"

Robert
November 22, 2008 1:18 AM

That turkey in the background was listening to Palin's accent and told the farmer, "Kill me now! Kill me now!"

Jillian
November 22, 2008 1:35 AM


I must be missing something. All I see is a bunch of turkeys....

Daniel
November 22, 2008 3:03 AM

To Sarah's credit, it does appear she's given away here Neiman Marcus wardrobe and expensive stylists.

patrick
November 22, 2008 5:40 AM
http://www.kogmedia.com

from a PR standpoint, one might give Palin the benefit of the doubt... but seriously, she might consider her surroundings a bit more before she goes on interviews that millions will end up watching

Redneck Catholic
November 22, 2008 9:32 AM
http://reneckcatholic.blogspot.com

Good for Sarah!

If you eat meat, you got no reason to be appalled! And, why is Sara Palins accent even an issue? Is it just more H8 against flyover country? And, here is a family farm, and people living close to the land and nature, why are people scandalized?

Ms. Palin eats meat, but she's not squamish about where it comes from. Alaska may not be polished, but it's far from inhumane! I live in a lage metropolitan area, and I see more inhumanity on the streets everyday, inflicted on humans, in this blue voting, Obama area. (The only Obama area in the state.)

No wonder our country is a mess--we are in a no reality zone.

Hank
November 22, 2008 10:48 AM

Redneck Catholic, +1.

Rod Dreher
November 22, 2008 11:30 AM

I guess this clip is a Rohrschach test: you see in it what you want to see. Me, I see nothing wrong with the turkey farm or the turkey farmer, or what he's doing. Nor do I see anything wrong with the Governor visiting it, or what she's saying. It's the juxtaposition of her chirrupy talk with the slaughter going on in the background -- the bird kicking as he has his throat cut, and the farmer looking back at the governor like, "Uh, are you sure you want this on camera?" -- that I found really, really funny. It's the juxtaposition of these two events in the same frame that struck me as hilarious.

mark
November 22, 2008 11:56 AM

Mr. Dreher:

I guess I really don't get you. One the one hand you strike me as a typical liberal, to me the hallmark of a liberal is contempt. You style yourself as a crunchy con and mock Governor Palin for being a chirpy con. Don't get it, her acceptance of what is a part of life, why is this hilarious. You promote having chickens, maybe I am missing something but what will be the end result for those chickens.

People who farm have to kill. They have to kill the foxes who try to eat their chickens and they have to kill the chickens. That's how they get on the plate for Sunday dinner. Governor Palin seems to understand this. Just don't get it with you. You have adopted this pose of mocking her for being what you seem to promote.

Governor Palin strikes me as a normal human being. You strike me as one more lib dripping with contempt for normal human beings.

Henrietta22
November 22, 2008 12:25 PM

In the depression of the 30's my Dad tried raising chickens for us to eat, it worked until I became aware that the delicious chicken we were eating was one that used to run around in the pen at the back of our country yard. After much crying and fussing from me he just got rid of them. Dreher and I know where our poultry comes from, he found humor in it, and nothing wrong with that. I said in my comment there is a right and a wrong way to do everything. This set up with Palin was the wrong way. It was great for her to pardon the holiday turkey, but the people killing the turkeys in back of her was pure poor taste. I abhor anything I perceive as inhumane, and shooting wolves from an airplane is high on my list. Shooting any animal short of keeping someone alive is also on my list. I love Alaska, but the things that the people do I don't like.

Rod Dreher
November 22, 2008 1:21 PM

Mark: Governor Palin strikes me as a normal human being. You strike me as one more lib dripping with contempt for normal human beings.

You strike me as either an illiterate or an ideologue. I have said that I don't think the governor did anything wrong, nor do I think the turkey farmer did anything wrong. The juxtaposition of the governor giving a typical upbeat TV interview to a reporter about the pleasure of the holiday, while the bird is struggling in the background while having its throat cut, is hilarious to me. The distance between the happiness and the horror is amusing -- and an amusing icon of how life is, actually. You can't separate the pleasures of meat at the Thanksgiving feast from the fact that meat-eating is a bloody business. If I were a vegetarian because I thought meat-eating was cruel, I'd read that scene as evidence of the denial that carnivores have to live in to be able to enjoy their feasting. But as I am a carnivore, I find the distance ironic and funny.

My message to you, Mark: Remove the stick. You'll feel better, promise.

Scott Lahti
November 22, 2008 3:43 PM
http://wordpress.com/tag/scott-lahti/

I think Rod's just run up against someone who recalls Albert Jay Nock on those who accused the Psalmist of atheism for writing "The fool hath said in his heart, 'There is no God'."

Try posting over in the precincts of Freeper Madness for any time, and ah gare-own-tee that to the extent that your syllables and/or syntax risk anything more serpentine than "See Spot sputter", you'll find yourself an Evil Commie Lib Islamofag in less time than it takes to watch your BeliefNet comment posts disappear...two...three...four...

mark
November 22, 2008 3:53 PM

Mr. Dreher:

You are quite correct, I am illiterate, an ideologue (glad you spelled that one out, I was going have to all my brother to get that one right) and desperately in need of removing the stick from my tuckus. Thank you for your clarification of your views regarding this video.

Still stuck on my my original thought. From the header you gave this video, your original comment regarding the video and your comment regarding what the farmer thought; it still strikes me that your intent was to ridicule Governor Palin.

Still strikes me that your are true to your liberal origins, thinking you are smart because you think others are stupid. Since you were kind enough to give me some advice, allow me to give you some, take a look in the mirror otherwise you stand before God congratulating yourself on your intelligence and piety. You will feel better, God promises.

Jon W
November 22, 2008 5:58 PM

Mark,

Shnikies, man. It's possible to have a gut emotional reaction to something that you're not used to even if you don't have any theoretical or moral problem with it. Rod admits in his book (IIRC) that he doesn't have much "instinct" for country-type life, and that he never felt like he was one of the more rustic, manly, huntin' and fishin'-types, but that he always admired them.

None of this translates into condemnation or condescension.

That said, this piece is a Rorschach test for our culture, and I think Rod would be the first to agree. The fact that we eat meat bred, raised, slaughtered, and shipped with factory-farm methods, meat that we do not connect with in any significant way, or feel any gratefulness to the living animal for providing, is sick. Rod was one of the first ones to get me to see that.

me
November 22, 2008 6:30 PM

Mark, you're making yourself look silly. Rod was one of the first and most passionate defenders of Sarah Palin when the media went bonkers on her. And he defended her pretty much precisely on the basis that she represents a positive, rugged America proto-type. Including basically being a woman who isn't silly enough to be put-off by a turkey being killed near-by. Besides, I'm sure the Washington Post, National Review and Culture 11 (all conservative outlets Rod has/does write for) would be shocked to hear about his liberal roots. You are being hyper-sensitive, have jumped to ridiculous conclusions and should really stop before you say something else which is ridiculous. I think that old proverb would be instructive here:
It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. I think it's too late to avoid looking like a fool on this one, but maybe you can spare yourself further embarrassment.

Bugg
November 22, 2008 8:31 PM

Cannot believe that the protein part of Thanksgiving dinner was recently ambulatory. I'm shocked! Outraged! Horrified!
And in need of some Boars Head Low Salt cold cuts. Their turkey is delicious-little mustard, fresh wheat bread, tomatoes-YUM!

elizabeth
November 22, 2008 11:16 PM

This is a hoot - and in no small part because of Palin's charming lack of shock at what is happening on a *gasp* farm!

Palin sounds like at least half the people in Minnesota, and most of my relatives BTW, so no more of you commentators commentatin' on her accent, please.

This video shows better who she is than all the weird scripting and nasty material the RNC and the McCain campaign gave her. She comes off as someone you would like to have as a neighbor.

You betcha!

Charles Curtis
November 24, 2008 8:07 AM

I think she's great. I initially thought I would vote for her, but I decided there was a bit of a Peter Principle here, and that she makes a far better governor (especially of Alaska) than she would VP. She's not "sophisticated" enough to be a national pol. Mostly because all the hysterics the effete hypocrites in the press, in Europe, and on the lifestyle left would be incessant. They'd never shut up about her. They would have her be Dan Quayle in heels.. But stuff like this proves that she's anything but.

Headless turkies, You betchya! It's Thanksgiving!

Thanks for sharing this, Rod. The dark humor is just delish, and having killed a few animals for food myself, I'm enjoying all the hyperventilating.

Daniel
November 24, 2008 9:44 AM

The great thing about the interview is that the turkey decapitation distracts from the fact that she's practically incoherent in the interview. I don't have the slightest idea what she's talking about. She's charming and energetic, but is spouting such babble and nonsense that even the turkeys are glad they no longer have to listen to it.

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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