The South used to be the most influential political region in the country. Not no more. We're now pretty much where New England has been for the past generation. I'd say this makes the possibility of a Jindal run in...
How many Southerners are really gonna think East Indian - Bobby Jindal really represents them? Outside of Louisiana, he's gonna be as useful to the GOP in the South as Alan Keyes.
Don Altabello
November 11, 2008 3:16 PM
Well--let's wait things out before we urge Jindal to run in 2012. Obama may very well prove to be a popular president and unbeatable in the next four years.
Your Name
November 11, 2008 3:21 PM
True dat, Don. Let's trot Bob Dole out again in '12 if we have to.
Rob G
November 11, 2008 3:30 PM
"Outside of Louisiana, he's gonna be as useful to the GOP in the South as Alan Keyes."
Nice try, Brian, but I think not. If Jindal does a good job, word will get around, and not just in the South. The difference between him and Keyes is that the latter's never held a national elected office.
But Don A. has a point -- don't want to waste Jindal by running him early if the Dear Leader proves to be popular and/or successful.
EddieInCA
November 11, 2008 3:59 PM
I like Jindal. But I believe, like Palin, he will not play well outside of the South. Having lived in Lousiana for the much of last year, I can say, with certainty, that many of the very things that get you elected in Louisiana, would keep you from getting elected nationally.
hootie1fan
November 11, 2008 4:02 PM
Bobby Jindal can be the future face of the GOP only if they get back to their fiscally and Constitutional roots. Other wise people like Sarah Palin, George Bush, David Vitter and James Dobson will be representing the Republican party into oblivion.
RJohnson
November 11, 2008 4:47 PM
"How many Southerners are really gonna think East Indian - Bobby Jindal really represents them? Outside of Louisiana, he's gonna be as useful to the GOP in the South as Alan Keyes."
Maybe you folks should check this out. Jindal is coming to Iowa.
www.iowaprofamily.org/
Derek Copold
November 11, 2008 6:05 PM
Jindal is certainly no Alan Keyes. Thankfully, there's only one Keyes, and that's one too many.
I wouldn't start pushing his candidacy just yet, though. Let's let him finish a term and then secure re-election before taking him too seriously. Really, we've got three years before we have to think about this, so let's not bother with things that may not even become serious possibilities. I mean, who know what's going to pop-up in the next few years? It's more important to develop a philosophy that any politician can advance, not just one who has the right skin tone or gender or religious belief.
Charles Cosimano
November 11, 2008 6:08 PM
Remember that Alan Keyes ran against Obama for the Senate from Illinois and how far he got.
I think the comedy machine would have even more fun with Jindal than they had with Palin and I doubt the rest of the country would ever take a governor of Louisiana seriously as a Presidential candidate, simply because he's from Louisiana.
Brian New Age Cowboy
November 11, 2008 6:18 PM
And I say again, if you think you can rebuild the South with an ethnic minority - you're nuts.
There's a reason Republicans sent out e-mails about Obama being a Muslim. There's a reason some crazy old lady at a McCain rally said Obama's an Arab.
Republicans have capitalized on prejudices and resentment in the South to win folks over. After the crazy mobs yelling for the death of a certain candidate right in front of the cameras, I'd say these folks are now the Republican Party's beast to bare.
Yeah, as somebody stated, Jindal's going to Iowa. But, I sure as hell wouldn't count on Southern Bible-thumpers to go vote in droves for Mr. Jindal.
The Republicans have played with fire by stoking prejudices (i.e., the Confederate Flag, Willie Horton, John McCain's supposed black love child,...) Now this fire is burning there house down.
Really, I think it's a Catch-22 - because Republicans need these creeps to win elections.
Jami09
November 11, 2008 6:21 PM
Who cares if the south rises again? people there act like they have their own country. I don't think they ever accepted the oucome of the civil war as being a done deal. Hello! Denial! How many hundreds of years does it take? Southern people decide who they claim depending on their mood...Florida? Maybe. Oklahoma? No way. It's so stupid. Since when is it a good thing for a small minority of people to think they run the show? Get with the program! Get over it! With love from Missouri.
Dharmashaiva
November 11, 2008 7:49 PM
http://oca.org/
Jindal for VP, '16, earliest.
But first, Jindal needs to gain some weight. He's skinnier than the O-Man.
Jumbo
November 11, 2008 8:40 PM
"I can say, with certainty, that many of the very things that get you elected in Louisiana, would keep you from getting elected nationally."
But what is Arkansas, but Louisiana without the food, music and humidity?
And, on a completely unrelated note, it occurred to me today that Obama might be the first president we've had who has never fired a gun. I can't think of another president who wouldn't have - maybe that prig Wilson - and I've never heard of Obama doing so.
Larry
November 11, 2008 8:55 PM
Now imagine the New York Times doing a similar piece after GWB's first election, only they concentrated on places that Gore won and finding embarrassing and stupid people to interview, and then trying to paint them as the sum total of Gore's support. A disgusting and bigoted article.
Joel
November 11, 2008 8:58 PM
One problem: Jindal runs for re-election in 11, not 10. That is a big time constraint. He might well have to wait for 16.
I heard Newt today and he sounds like he is in for 12. Great.
The Mighty Favog
November 11, 2008 9:59 PM
http://www.revolution21.org
As a born-and-raised son of Louisiana, I say in all seriousness -- and aware of what it means for a Southerner to say such -- that, dammit to hell, Reconstruction ended decades too soon.
Deborah E.
November 11, 2008 10:43 PM
AS a born-and-raised daughter of Alabama, I second the sentiments above. Reconstruction ended decades too soon.
Can we not savor the significance of the first black man elected to the highest office of this land at least until he's sworn in before plotting his defeat?
The Republicans screwed up badly in 2008. I speak as someone who voted twice for George Bush and did so without hesitation. This year I voted a straight Democratic ticket for the first time in my 56 years.
Go for it, Obama...go for it, Democrats!
Deborah E.
November 11, 2008 10:54 PM
I misspoke above.
2008 was not the only year the Republicans screwed up. I guess the Bush administration really lost me in the aftermath of Katrina.
Obama is forthright and articulate, and actually seems to have a vision for America. What a change that will be! I don't agree with all of his viewpoints, but I appreciate his intellect and his interest in hearing all sides of an issue.
Jindal? Well, he seems like a sincere and intelligent person...but it looks like right now the Republicans are still pushing Palin...and only because she has celebrity attention from the media. Sad.
Michele
November 12, 2008 12:48 AM
Jindal is the next republican president. Whenever that happens. he will be a great president.
Your Name
November 12, 2008 7:39 AM
"Obama is forthright and articulate, and actually seems to have a vision for America. What a change that will be! I don't agree with all of his viewpoints, but I appreciate his intellect and his interest in hearing all sides of an issue."
Dagummit, and I thot the kool-aid done all runned out at election time.
pentamom
November 12, 2008 10:30 AM
Anybody on any side forecasting the next presidential election based on media buzz ONE WEEK after the last one seems beyond pointless. Could anyone have predicted anything about this year in November 2004 with better than random success? Given that Obama wasn't even in the Senate yet, I hardly think so.
Goodguyex
November 12, 2008 12:50 PM
Bobby Jindal is a devout, practicing orthodox Roman Catholic. At the present time that is enough to keep him from being elected to national office. This is for better or for worse. He is not like Joe Biden or John Kennedy who are/were more nominal or at best "Sunday" Catholics.
alan porter
November 14, 2008 9:24 AM
One thing that can be predicted, an all democrat government will hurt us well past 2012.
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How many Southerners are really gonna think East Indian - Bobby Jindal really represents them? Outside of Louisiana, he's gonna be as useful to the GOP in the South as Alan Keyes.
Well--let's wait things out before we urge Jindal to run in 2012. Obama may very well prove to be a popular president and unbeatable in the next four years.
True dat, Don. Let's trot Bob Dole out again in '12 if we have to.
"Outside of Louisiana, he's gonna be as useful to the GOP in the South as Alan Keyes."
Nice try, Brian, but I think not. If Jindal does a good job, word will get around, and not just in the South. The difference between him and Keyes is that the latter's never held a national elected office.
But Don A. has a point -- don't want to waste Jindal by running him early if the Dear Leader proves to be popular and/or successful.
I like Jindal. But I believe, like Palin, he will not play well outside of the South. Having lived in Lousiana for the much of last year, I can say, with certainty, that many of the very things that get you elected in Louisiana, would keep you from getting elected nationally.
Bobby Jindal can be the future face of the GOP only if they get back to their fiscally and Constitutional roots. Other wise people like Sarah Palin, George Bush, David Vitter and James Dobson will be representing the Republican party into oblivion.
"How many Southerners are really gonna think East Indian - Bobby Jindal really represents them? Outside of Louisiana, he's gonna be as useful to the GOP in the South as Alan Keyes."
Maybe you folks should check this out. Jindal is coming to Iowa.
www.iowaprofamily.org/
Jindal is certainly no Alan Keyes. Thankfully, there's only one Keyes, and that's one too many.
I wouldn't start pushing his candidacy just yet, though. Let's let him finish a term and then secure re-election before taking him too seriously. Really, we've got three years before we have to think about this, so let's not bother with things that may not even become serious possibilities. I mean, who know what's going to pop-up in the next few years? It's more important to develop a philosophy that any politician can advance, not just one who has the right skin tone or gender or religious belief.
Remember that Alan Keyes ran against Obama for the Senate from Illinois and how far he got.
I think the comedy machine would have even more fun with Jindal than they had with Palin and I doubt the rest of the country would ever take a governor of Louisiana seriously as a Presidential candidate, simply because he's from Louisiana.
And I say again, if you think you can rebuild the South with an ethnic minority - you're nuts.
There's a reason Republicans sent out e-mails about Obama being a Muslim. There's a reason some crazy old lady at a McCain rally said Obama's an Arab.
Republicans have capitalized on prejudices and resentment in the South to win folks over. After the crazy mobs yelling for the death of a certain candidate right in front of the cameras, I'd say these folks are now the Republican Party's beast to bare.
Yeah, as somebody stated, Jindal's going to Iowa. But, I sure as hell wouldn't count on Southern Bible-thumpers to go vote in droves for Mr. Jindal.
The Republicans have played with fire by stoking prejudices (i.e., the Confederate Flag, Willie Horton, John McCain's supposed black love child,...) Now this fire is burning there house down.
Really, I think it's a Catch-22 - because Republicans need these creeps to win elections.
Who cares if the south rises again? people there act like they have their own country. I don't think they ever accepted the oucome of the civil war as being a done deal. Hello! Denial! How many hundreds of years does it take? Southern people decide who they claim depending on their mood...Florida? Maybe. Oklahoma? No way. It's so stupid. Since when is it a good thing for a small minority of people to think they run the show? Get with the program! Get over it! With love from Missouri.
Jindal for VP, '16, earliest.
But first, Jindal needs to gain some weight. He's skinnier than the O-Man.
"I can say, with certainty, that many of the very things that get you elected in Louisiana, would keep you from getting elected nationally."
But what is Arkansas, but Louisiana without the food, music and humidity?
And, on a completely unrelated note, it occurred to me today that Obama might be the first president we've had who has never fired a gun. I can't think of another president who wouldn't have - maybe that prig Wilson - and I've never heard of Obama doing so.
Now imagine the New York Times doing a similar piece after GWB's first election, only they concentrated on places that Gore won and finding embarrassing and stupid people to interview, and then trying to paint them as the sum total of Gore's support. A disgusting and bigoted article.
One problem: Jindal runs for re-election in 11, not 10. That is a big time constraint. He might well have to wait for 16.
I heard Newt today and he sounds like he is in for 12. Great.
As a born-and-raised son of Louisiana, I say in all seriousness -- and aware of what it means for a Southerner to say such -- that, dammit to hell, Reconstruction ended decades too soon.
AS a born-and-raised daughter of Alabama, I second the sentiments above. Reconstruction ended decades too soon.
Can we not savor the significance of the first black man elected to the highest office of this land at least until he's sworn in before plotting his defeat?
The Republicans screwed up badly in 2008. I speak as someone who voted twice for George Bush and did so without hesitation. This year I voted a straight Democratic ticket for the first time in my 56 years.
Go for it, Obama...go for it, Democrats!
I misspoke above.
2008 was not the only year the Republicans screwed up. I guess the Bush administration really lost me in the aftermath of Katrina.
Obama is forthright and articulate, and actually seems to have a vision for America. What a change that will be! I don't agree with all of his viewpoints, but I appreciate his intellect and his interest in hearing all sides of an issue.
Jindal? Well, he seems like a sincere and intelligent person...but it looks like right now the Republicans are still pushing Palin...and only because she has celebrity attention from the media. Sad.
Jindal is the next republican president. Whenever that happens. he will be a great president.
"Obama is forthright and articulate, and actually seems to have a vision for America. What a change that will be! I don't agree with all of his viewpoints, but I appreciate his intellect and his interest in hearing all sides of an issue."
Dagummit, and I thot the kool-aid done all runned out at election time.
Anybody on any side forecasting the next presidential election based on media buzz ONE WEEK after the last one seems beyond pointless. Could anyone have predicted anything about this year in November 2004 with better than random success? Given that Obama wasn't even in the Senate yet, I hardly think so.
Bobby Jindal is a devout, practicing orthodox Roman Catholic. At the present time that is enough to keep him from being elected to national office. This is for better or for worse. He is not like Joe Biden or John Kennedy who are/were more nominal or at best "Sunday" Catholics.
One thing that can be predicted, an all democrat government will hurt us well past 2012.
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