Should newsrooms hire conservatives?
Washington Post ombudsman Deborah Howell thinks so. Excerpt: Tom Rosenstiel, a former political reporter who directs the Project for Excellence in Journalism, said, "The perception of liberal bias is a problem by itself for the news media. It's not okay...
Matt Yglesias makes an excellent point here: most talented Republicans go into business, and most talented liberals are the ones who go into journalism. Its an interesting argument. I'm not sure I buy his thoughts that conservatives dominate broadcast media, but I definately think he's about right in the other areas of journalism - food writers are all liberal, there are some conservative political reporters, and a decent percentage of conservative op-ed writers.
He says it would be ideal to have more liberals in business and more conservatives in journalism - but is a at loss on how to get there.
Why would any smart conservative youngster want to work for a dying medium? Seriously? Rod, you were telling us a week ago about layoffs at your employer. You think college kids don't take note of this. Shockingly, conservatives tend to be conservative. Unless you're an obvious writing prodigy, a career in journalism is a lousy risk.
For example, I tried it at a local paper as a sideline. I made more working as a waiter at a country/western dive. Anyone picking this sort of job can forget about a decent car, a family or moving out of their parents' house. Unless you have an incurable passion and indulgent parents, this is no sort of way to make a living.
Are there journalism organizations that newspapers could target to do recruiting that parallel the networks for minorities and women? This assumes there is a parallel network to tap into, but I've never seen any evidence that such a network exists. Yes, they could target religious colleges, but that assumes there are schools that have top-level journalism programs similar to the Columbia, Northwestern, NYU, and Missouri's or even Howard.
So conservatives believe their need s to be more balance starting with the Washington Post. I wonder what they thik about the state of affairs at the Washington Times or perhaps the NY Post?
To state the bleeding obvious once again, it is usually immediately apparent if someone is a woman or belongs to a racial minority, so any patterns of discrimination that exist in newsrooms (or any other employment) kick in as soon as the applicant walks in the door for a job interview. It is less apparent whether someone is a conservative unless they volunteer the information. So it's comparing apples with oranges.
I like this this:
The first is not easy: Editors hire not on the basis of beliefs but on talent in reporting, photography and editing
With the implication that conservatives aren't as capable, and therefore aren't as smart as liberals. It's not really their fault that there are no conservatives in newsrooms, you see, they hire strictly on merit!
So conservatives believe there needs to be more balance starting with the Washington Post. I wonder what they think about the state of affairs at the Washington Times or perhaps the NY Post?
90% of reporting has no political angle. The day conservatives realize this and grow up is the day they will start to make progress. The conservative grievance list is ridiculous:__1) Report on climate change. Liberal bias.__2) Report on a homeless shelter taking people in on cold night. Liberal bias.__3) Report on the number of foreclosures rising. Liberal bias and attempting to talk down the economy.__4) Report that John McCain is trailing in the polls. Liberal bias.__5) Report that medical expenses are exceeding people's ability to pay. Liberal bias.____Colbert wasn't too far off when he said that problem is that the facts are biased.
As a long time reader, I'm finding the NYTines to be a bit monotonous. Yes yes, I know they're super-liberal, but could we get a break every now and again?
This is really to state the obvious, but newspapers with a diversity of views (I really do not care about the color of the skin or the gender of the journalist) are more interesting to read, and hence, one would think, more profitable?
Conservatives object strenuously to the concept of equality as an engine, until they notice that they got the short end of the stick. Then the Sean Hannity's of the world have a one note song; "we didn't get equal attention."
90% of reporting has no political angle.
Translation: I agree with the bias of 90% of what I read.
Derek Copold: "Why would any smart conservative youngster want to work for a dying medium?"
To stand athwart history shouting "Stop!", perhaps?
Badger: this is a problem with much of conservatism. For all of its traditionalism, conservatives have a great deal of trouble with narrative as a mode of knowledge. Rod pointed this out in an earlier thread, quoting Conor Friedersdorf:
"Conservatives and libertarians sometimes face a disadvantage in policy arguments. We're attuned to the indirect effects and unintended consequences of certain policies, whereas our liberal interlocutors concern themselves primarily with direct effects. Why is this a disadvantage? Because the liberal can say, "Look at David from Detroit, who is going to lose his job, and his home, if GM goes bankrupt." Whereas the best conservatives and libertarians can do is to say, "Somewhere in America there is an unknown person who will lose their job, and their home, if the automakers are bailed out, due to the inevitable effect of egregious economic inefficiencies that will course through the financial system."
"The person who is hurt in the liberal narrative and the one hurt in the conservative narrative are both real human beings. But the fact that the former is identifiable is often used by liberals as an emotional bludgeon. "How can you not back the bailout? David will lose his house!""
Much ink has been spilled on this principle as applied to rent-controls in NYC. I don't have the solution, but I think it would be amusing for someone to write an issue of a newspaper talking about all the theoretical problems that the conservatism has solved.
That issue would doubtless contain a story about the rock that repels tigers.
What/Who exactly is a conservative?
We've heard the several past weeks that David Brooks, Peggy Noonan, David Frum, and Christopher Buckley, among others aren't "true" conservatives.
So who is?
Michael Savage?
Danial Larison?
Ross Douthat?
Rod Dreher?
Kathryn Jean Lopez?
Laura Ingraham?
All of these are some sort of conservative, but are they "conservative" in a manner that would pass muster among rank and file conservatives?
To stand athwart history shouting "Stop!", perhaps?
These days, you'd be doing it an increasingly empty room if you joined a print medium.
Of course newspapers should hire conservatives. Not that anyone reads print newspapers any more...
It's not that conservatives are too "conservative" to enter low-wage, unstable fields like journalism and academia; they are far more likely to have a wife and kids at a young age. I am a 26-yr-old Mormon lawyer, and most of my Mormon friends my age are married with one or two kids; almost all of us are on the lawyer/doctor/business track. If you want to support a decent-size family, there's not much choice. Only hippies living six to an apartment can afford to live on a $25,000 starting reporter salary.
Apparently 25% of households have an income less than 25K. Not sure I believe that stat.
I have heard it said that while journalists tend to be liberal editors tend to be conservative and it balances out. Any truth to that?
This in interesting. I was deliberately denied an editor in chief position of my student newspaper in college because I was "too conservative" for the student publications board. This, even though I'd previously served as managing editor and as a paid reporter for several prior semesters. The majority of the newspaper's staff was shocked and dismayed, and the student newspaper faculty adviser was completely disheartened. I was crestfallen from the experience, but dusted myself off and moved on. I certainly was not all that conservative before the experience, but I definitely became so afterward. It was a two-roads diverging kind of experience. This -- combined with several intensive internships in D.C. -- confirmed for me all of the suspicions we have about liberal bias in the media. It's rampant and pervasive ... and entirely intentional.
Peter: "I have heard it said that while journalists tend to be liberal editors tend to be conservative and it balances out. Any truth to that?"
Dunno about editors, but media owners and advertisers certainly do, and they set the agenda, not the journalists. It wouldn't matter if every journalist at, say, the New York Post was a paid up member of the Socialist Party, they'd still have to dance to Uncle Rupert's tune.
"Fair enough. Let us assume that there simply aren't enough qualified conservatives seeking jobs in newsrooms -- and if there were, they'd be hired. OK, fine. Now, substitute the word "blacks" for "conservatives" and "College Republicans" in those paragraphs, and see how it reads. Do you think the kind of people who make hiring decisions in newsrooms are likely to believe Boehlert's rationale, but would react strongly against the same logic if applied to women or racial minorities?"
Sure they would accept it if it were shown to be true. A quick look at the pool of applicants would confirm or deny that there were too few blacks, hispanics, women, etc. in the pool.
Now...how many conservatives are there in the pool of applicants? Are you suggesting affirmative action based on political viewpoint, Rod? Should we develop a "United Conservative College Fund" because a conservative mind is a terrible thing to waste?
Or could it be that there are too few conservatives entering the journalist profession? Could it be that they are entering the business world (which might explain why our economy is collapsing and businesses are failing...but that's for another post)?
I am a conservative who has worked in newsrooms -- small, medium and large -- for 21 years.
Sorry, "Your Name" above (yesterday, 3:58 pm) was me
Dean, my experience in journalism closely resembles yours. Derek, newsrooms were unattractive to conservatives long before the Internet.
Both for the same reason: a hostile workplace. Trying to work side-by-side, day-in-day-out, with people who fervently believe you do not belong, is unsustainable.
For starters, they won't share the unwritten information that is crucial to professional success. And unless you're made of iron, you'll get worn down by the cold-shouldering, gossip, and end-running. (Even if you are made of iron, that quality will only get you whispered-about as "rigid.")
Who wants to spend all his working hours in that environment?
Leftists consider certain professions to be their turf, including (non-military) government service, university staff, and newsgathering. The only alternative for the latter is FOX News, and if Sullivan's Law is correct, that may only last as long as Murdoch and Ailes live.
That was me at November 19, 2008 1:15 PM.
Cursed software deletes your name field when the spam prevention fails.
The Liberals run the show and they like the way it runs. They see any one who doesn’t think like they do as backward, not worthy of consideration. If you are some one who doesn't go along with the liberal agenda of the media, look elsewhere for employment. I thought about the school of journalism when I attended college in the sixties If you wanted grades or women the left was the place to be. Some of the courses where more indoctrination camps than education. Any one who steps out against these people will be ruined. Even if you can learn to spell potato your dead. I always thought potato should have an e at the end. Poor Dan Qualye never new what hit him.
Please add to the above. If you have obvious religiuos views, your out. Any thing beyound a Unitarian is viewed as a bumpkin from the south.
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