Britain, the Rainbow Kingdom
Where are the soccer hooligans when you need them? The latest from the educational frontiers in Blighty: They are scrapping the traditional method of correcting work because they consider it "confrontational" and "threatening". Pupils increasingly find that the ticks...
I corrected my students' papers in green ink for thirty years--what's the fuss?
Marian
January 6, 2009 1:34 PM
I corrected my students' papers in green ink for thirty years--what's the fuss?
I await Rod's response with eager anticipation.
At PhiBetaCons blog on National Review (http://phibetacons.nationalreview.com/ ):
If You're Successful on Your Own, You Can Say What You Think [George Leef]
Bill Cosby is one such person. Another is saxophone great Branford Marsalis, who here (http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2009/01/branford_marsal.html) offers some politically incorrect opinions about today's college students. (He has taught at several schools.)
It seems to be dawning on more and more people that the cultivated image of higher education (eager students working hard to develop their skills and knowledge) is sharply at odds with the reality (many are prima donnas who insist on praise and high grades no matter how little they learn).
Marian, the only one I can think of is if a color-blind student turned in a paper written in blue ink and was thus unable to distinguish the green markings. :)
That said, I like to use a red pen for correction. When I can find one. Which, considering I've bought tons of them, is another matter altogether having to do with clutter, organization, pen migration, and matters including eddies in the space-time continuum that might explain the mysterious disappearances of pens of all colors, as the late Douglas Adams explained in some detail.
I just surveyed my three homeschooled daughters; without telling them the purpose I asked which color ink they preferred me to use when I mark their work. "Red," they all said immediately. I asked why:
"Because it's more 'test-y.'"
"Because when you use blue or black ink it's hard to tell if something was wrong."
I then told them about Rod's post and the notion that red demoralizes children; mine were of the opinion that this was silly and that the purpose of having marks on a paper was to see where you had made mistakes in order to be able to correct them and improve generally in the future.
Completely unscientific, of course; but my memories of school would tend to agree with what they're saying. Who wants to hunt all over one's work for the teacher's marks or comments?
Ah, but what is the status of a red pencil? Allowed, or not? And what will they do when the young, impressionable minds make the same association with green marks that they now make with red ones? Might this turn them against "green" causes altogether? For the sake of the environment, school work must be corrected in red!
I think the "fuss" is not over using non-red ink, but over the notion that red ink hurts children, and more so that red ink hurts children because it signals that they're actually "wrong" when they make a "mistake."
Erin's kids get it, British teachers don't. Sad.
Ink color is not offensive - but cutting remarks are. I had a seminary professor who - we were sure - went through a case of red pens every semester. But it was from here that I regained confidence that had been summarily removed by an elementary school teacher many years earlier. Red is so it can be seen. Disguising mistakes - or complements - benefits no one. I use a red pen to proof our church bulletines - so we can all see where the corrections are needed. It shortens the process and makes it easier. I am also careful to accompany the corrections and add as gentle and positive a set of comments as possible.
Thank God for the British press. It's the Playboy of Outrage Porn.
Larry, heh. :-)
The problem with our righteous astonishment is that these politically correct weanies have a point. When you have less real goodness in your surrounding culture sustaining you, and the only things that really matter to a society and thus the only things on which to base one's self-esteem are exam-derived numbers (SATs, IQ, GRE, GPA), then you end up judging your own worth to society (and thus your own worth, whatever the existentialists would say) significantly from those numbers.
In such a case, it makes sense that a bunch of teachers would instinctively try to de-freight the import of the grades by drawing less attention to them. It's their way of saying to the student, "Look, you suck at math, but that doesn't mean you're a bad person." The weird thing is that this almost begins to make sense in a society where so much rides on those numbers.
The British Empire did better when they had caning.
I suggest they restore it--for the educationists.
In my role as a college teacher of research and writing, I gave up red pens many years ago for two reasons: you can't erase red pen and there were so many red marks on the page that it was distracting. Now I use No. 2 pencils. Students still tell me my comments can sometimes be intimidating, but no one has ever said they missed seeing them on the page.
This is a fantastic step in the name of progress. Many studies have shown that there is an even greater threat to students than the dastardly red pen - public eduction itself! Here's hoping it goes the way of the red pens.
nothing new here. Schools in the Houston area in the early 1990s banned the use of red for correcting school papers because the color red was considered to traumatic for the little darlings.
I continue to use red whenever I have to correct something
"I continue to use red whenever I have to correct something"
Why? I mean, if someone is submitting a report that has been printed from a computer or typewriter, any color is going to be visible to the reader, even pencil. So why red? Because it is authoritative? Because it reminds you of school marms from the "good old days"? Because it gives you a rush? Because you like being un-PC?
While there is something quaint about the attraction to marking things up in red, it's a fairly irrational attraction. To attach such significance to it is as illogical as banning it.
I've had various people tell me that I shouldn't use red pen. I'm not going to spend a lot of time arguing with teachings who prefer to use other colors themselves. I will, however, spend plenty of time arguing with people who think that I shouldn't use red because it's insensitive or demoralizing or some other such nonsense.
I use red to indicate that something was wrong. The attachment on my part may be somewhat irrational, but throughout the world, red is the (almost) universal color to indicate a warning or a stop. Ideally, I would like to warn my students to stop answering questions in such a way as to cause me to make lots of marks on their paper.
"arguing with teachERS" he wrote in big red ink at the top of the page...
I teach college English, and I stopped using red ink after a couple of years. It just looked too much like shouting, like I was personally irritated by their mistakes. Didn't set a good tone. In college courses, you usually don't have enough time with the students to make your toughness pay off and be felt as love. I find it more productive to signal a trusting and compassionate relationship right off the bat, without doing them the disservice of ignoring their errors.
Perhaps educators need to consider the possibility that the color of ink has little or nothing to do with it and instead what is done with that ink. My assignments were marked with red ink all through elementary and middle school and I have no problem with it. However, my ninth grade English teacher who was strict, stubborn, and impossible to deal with marked my papers in purple ink. Papers would come back with more purple than black or white on them. That year, I came to dread the color purple. I've never dreaded seeing red on my paper. Red meant mistakes that could be corrected and an opportunity to learn how to better myself. Purple meant a horrible grade for completely arbitrary reasons.
Maybe it's not just the teachers that should be caned over this.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7374218/
"At Daniels Farm Elementary School in Trumbull, Conn., Karwoski’s teachers grade papers by giving examples of better answers for those students who make mistakes. But that approach meant the kids often found their work covered in red, the color that teachers long have used to grade work.
Parents objected. Red writing, they said, was “stressful.” The principal said teachers were just giving constructive advice and the color of ink used to convey that message should not matter. But some parents could not let it go."
Interesting responses all.
I do all my proofing and answering of proposals with red ink. All of it. It allows me to see more quickly where things need to be addressed, and cuts down dramatically the number of notes missed.
If we taught people that red meant "pay attention to this" instead of "you sucked on this" we'd be closer to how red ink is used in the business world, where efficiency counts and missed notes are costly.
Then again I'm stupid, so why would anyone pay attention to my notes?
When I taught at an international school in Korea I corrected in whatever was to hand-- even crayon when everything else went missing-- but red was, while not banned, something of a no-no. Asian kids, according to their cultural superstition, thought you were putting a death hex on them. Seriously. Red was the color of blood, hence violence and death. Remember, Bill, symbolism is not universal. Daniel is correct here.
As a psychologist in training, I'd just LOVE to actually see peer reviewed methodologically sound studies indicating that red ink is psychologically "damaging" to children. What this sounds like is a moronic educational system misusing or misunderstanding behavioral science research ONCE AGAIN!
Rod, you keep posting these scare stories from the british press.
Do you know why the British Conservative blogosphere hardly ever gets worked up about them?
It's because it's what the british press do. Lots of these stories aren't true, you notice the continued use of the words "hundreds of schools". It's probably one or two, this ban won't be enforceable and will be forgotten by the teachers in a few weeks when they can't find another colour but red.
Oh and by the way, this is extremely tactless; "Where are the soccer hooligans when you need them?" Next time you complain about american political correctness i'll ask "where are the KKK when you need them?" Because hey, what do we need more than violence against ethnic minorities.
The red pen goes back further than most schools, having been developed during the mid-19th century when ammonia-based dyes became available.
The use of red ink to distinguish parts of a text goes back, in the West, at least to the Middle Ages. Black (or brownish-black) and red were probably the easiest and cheapest colors of ink to make. In many liturgical and choral manuscripts the "instructions" that accompanied the text were in red, which is why they acquired the name still often used for them: "rubrics", from the Latin word for red.
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Many of my college students tell me that their high school teachers were not allowed to mark their papers in red, again because it was supposedly "threatening". They agreed with me when I suggested that if all teachers started using, say, green, then pretty soon green would be regarded as the "threatening" color.
The benefit of red, of course, is that it is easily visible, esp. when the students turn in their work in a variety of colors, or even in pencil.
But then, the ban on red pens presumably comes from the same people who came up with the nutty idea of not keeping score in children's games, lest any of the poor dears have to labor under the label of being a "loser". As if children themselves aren't the most meticulous score-keepers around.
I agree with that last comment about kids being meticulous scorekeepers. My daughters played Upwards Basketball, in which nobody kept score. They received awards not only for "Best Defense" but "Most Christ-like." It was a nice idea, and a good environment for small children who were just learning, but it didn't conquer basic human nature: the older kids always knew what the real score was, and (sadly) my daughter cried whenever she got "most Christ-like." Now there's an irony!
Telegraph again!
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