If you ever found yourself asking, "I wonder what communes of radical lesbian separatists are up to these days?", well, here's your answer. Getting old and dying out, basically. Building a community based on paranoia against penis people leads to crackpottery like this:
There is strident debate within and across the womyn's lands about who should be allowed to join. Many residents subscribe to strict lesbian separatism, meaning that men are permitted only as temporary visitors and that straight, bisexual and transsexual women are also excluded.Recently when an Alapine resident received a visit from a 6-month-old grandson, an e-mail message went out to all residents, perhaps only partly in humor: "There's a man on the land."
To be sure, I have no problem in principle with gender-exclusive communities. That's what monasteries and convents are. That's what girls' schools and boys' schools are. And so forth. But no monastery or convent is organized around the principle that the opposite sex is freaky and wicked and must be escaped from -- this, as distinct from the idea that being in a same-gender community makes it easier to study, or live out a life of prayer in chastity. It's just more than a little pitiful when someone is so damaged that they look at the presence of a six-month-old baby boy as an alien threat.
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Rod has an unfortunate habit of finding silly, strange or stupid GLBT people to poke fun at, and infer they are threatening (presumably)male dominated Christian society. Sometimes, in truth, they really are easy to mock. I have done so myself. He is never really concerned with the GLBT people who may have said or done strange things because of cr@p like this above.
What a stupid, self-serving observation. Let me tell you how this works. Though I may appear to you to have god-like powers of observation, in fact my purview is limited. I write about things that I read about in the newspaper or on blogs I routinely see. Do you really think I sought out the lesbian separatists story? No, it came to me as the lead cover story in one section of the Sunday New York Times. Unlike you, apparently, I don't make a habit of visiting gaysbeingbeatup.com, so I simply don't see the same stories you do. Celebrate diversity, baby.
You're acting like a 13 year old adolescent: angry because if straight society noticed this stuff, but angry if straight society *didn't* notice this stuff.
elizabeth: This is one of those situations where I can hear my grandmas saying "If you can't find anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." There is much wisdom in that.
Funny, I don't recall you offering that counsel when I was going off on George W. Bush.
Let me explain something. This blog is written by someone who is a white Southern male Christian of conservative political, religious and cultural convictions. Though his interests are small-c catholic, he tends to be most interested in cultural topics. You should not be surprised, then, when both the scope of the topics that strike him as interesting, as well as his opinions about them, reflect the worldview of someone like him. You are not required to agree with him, and in fact he welcomes your views, depending on how you express them. But don't be scandalized when you come to a conservative blog and find conservative opinions expressed about things of interest to cultural conservatives.
So, will homosexuals be welcome at the never-to-exist Benedictine community of your fantasies, Rod? Or are you just as exclusionary as they are?
Is there any place at all for gay people in your ideal world, "God's creatures too" as I'd call them if I believed in God, or would you prefer to erase them from existence?
For the record, I'm not the same person as "Z"-- I'm lower-case.
11pm (5) The Girls With Bilitis Go "Bye". Rod Dreher, The Doury Boys, The Sob Sisters. Looks like Rod's going to have to flip the lights on this thread, too, like he just did over on the priceless Smoove B slapfest - it's become part polymorphous pity party for the perpetually pissed, and an exquisite chamber recital by an ensemble consisting of a half-dozen or so of the world's tiniest violins (sob - Oh, the inhumanity!) - with Rod doing a perfect Franklin Pangborn, pulling off his glasses and tugging at his hair till it stands on end as his department store erupts in pandemonium hard on closing time. Those of us in the front rows in evening wear and clutching our opera glasses feel much like the audience at a talent show by the Little Rascals gone horribly awry - tearblind, gutsore and with abdominals shaken to jelly. Paging Hal Roach.
What a stupid, self-serving observation.
For noting that your portrayal of GLBT peoples is...wait for it...self serving? Sauce for the goose, Mr Dreyer...
You portray gays as a threat to your value system. You do it rather frequently, and presumably to generate the very controversy you seem to relish. You run breathless stories of gays acting foolishly, but you do not run stories of gays acting kindly, wisely, with restraint or anything else that may reflect well on GLBT people. I note that you comment on gays who threaten you, or vandalize religious buildings. You do not seem concerned that it is generally GLBT people who are harmed through bigotry, rather than the reverse. I conclude that facts which do not conform to your "narrative" of society being threatened by people like me are to be avoided.
That is why you are not to be taken seriously, and why I laugh at you.
Though I may appear to you to have god-like powers of observation, in fact my purview is limited.
You are free to blog about what you want, of course. I prefer defense issues in general, but arguments there are arcane if they even happen at all. If you want to present a one sided view of people like me, then expect some push-back.
And that is how that works.
Do you really think I sought out the lesbian separatists story? No, it came to me as the lead cover story in one section of the Sunday New York Times.
And they held a gun to your head and made you keep finding all these "gay" subjects to write about?
Bwa ha ha ha ha ha!!!
Unlike you, apparently, I don't make a habit of visiting gaysbeingbeatup.com, so I simply don't see the same stories you do. Celebrate diversity, baby.
The fact that you even make light of that tells me volumes about you.
You don't like that word that starts with a "B", but if the shoe fits...
In any event, I merely googled "lesbian beaten"...and voila!
A couple of stories of routine domestic violence between couples, and a slew of recent stories of lesbians being assaulted by men.
Real funny, huh?
I'm not sure if I will bother coming back for some time, in any event. You seem like a bit of a nasty sort sometimes, and debating whether Admiral Scheer really screwed up at the Battle of Jutland is far more entertaining.
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