Alex Massie says the Republican habit of deifying Reagan is hurting the party. Excerpt:
But it is an iron truth of politics that prolonged success sows the seeds of future downfall. Revolutions run out of steam. They cannot be permanent. More damagingly still, what begins as an unorthodox and surprisingly successful approach calcifies into a stubborn orthodoxy that brooks no dissent, even as times and circumstances change. The path to power is built upon compromise and flexibility: Thatcher always knew what she wanted to do, but she was also aware, in her early years, of how limited her room for manoevre was - not least because not everyone in her cabinet was on board. If progress was slower than she liked, it was also steadier than when, after 1987, she reigned supreme and hubris began to take its fatal grip. Similarly, Reagan was a vastly more adaptable President than current conservative folklore might have you believe.In that sense, then. the troubles of Republicanism now and of the Tories in the last 15 years, were built upon their previous successes. The difficulty is that the second (or third) generation is rarely as talented or adaptable as the trailblazers who won power in the first place. Instead of finding fresh ideas and solutions, they inherit positions and prejudices that, because they worked once before, are assumed to be eternal truths rather than particular answers to particular problems at a particular time.
And because they're seen as eternal truths, any deviation from them is grounds for heresy. Thus, for instance, the Club for Growth would, it sometimes seems, rather see a Democrt in Congress than a "bad" Republican. Fair enough, they've got their wish and the GOP is a minority party in both houses of Congress. It's not all the Club for Growth's fault, of course, but the narrowness of their (fiscal) vision is parallelled by other forces within contemporary conservatism that have left the party older and whiter and more religious than America as a whole. In other words, the GOP is increasingly out of step with a changing America.
Witness, for instance, the party's hostility to gay marriage. That plays well with the base, but it's not something that's likely to endear it to the political future. It's a symbolic issue in some ways, but each year plenty of voters who agree with the GOP die while plenty more who don't are added to the electoral roll.
I completely agree with Alex's view that many, many US conservatives invoke Reagan's name and example today as a substitute for creative thinking. And with regret, I mostly concede his point about gay marriage. As I've said before, I think that the political argument is lost in the long run because the cultural argument has been lost. I'd love to be proved wrong, but I don't think I will be. But this particular issue raises a question that I don't have a good answer for, at least not yet, and it has to do with how a political party should handle the conflict between principle and popularity.
Political parties are not churches. They aren't dogmatic. They exist to win elections and gain power to accomplish goals in governance. Their principles dictate the goals they wish to achieve. A party that's strictly principled, and paid no heed to the need to compromise at times will find itself pure but small and powerless. A party that will take any stance that keeps it popular and in power will eventually peter out in meaninglessness. All successful political parties have to find a balance.
Is there a point at which a conservative says, "Look, the GOP is no longer a party I recognize, and I want nothing to do with it"? Or does he say, "I hate the changes the party is making, because I believe they take us away from what conservatism should be. But if we don't adapt, we'll keep losing ground in the real world"?
It's easy for me to talk about ways the GOP should change, so long as we stick with the environment, and other issues that I already agree with. It's a lot harder to contemplate yielding ground on issues like gay marriage. Sooner or later the case will be put to Republicans to give up on gay marriage, because it's a big-time loser with voters. What then? What conservative principles should conservatives go soft on because to hold onto them firmly is to consign the party to even more powerlessness?
I don't know, myself. But I'm thinking about it. Democrats had to think about it after the Reagan years. What do you say? What do we on the Right have to let go of? What can we not afford to let go of?

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"You need to study history, so you can know what torture actually is."
Would studying the history of WWII, where we put Japanese soldiers to death for waterboarding our soldiers who were POW's, suffice? Either our country was committing war crimes recently, or the Greatest Generation did it as a matter of course...your choice.
Re: As for social issues, that is a much slower, but with a much more pre-determined outcome, loss for the Republicans.
I agree that anti-gay politics are approaching their freshness date-- in regards to gays in the military, we're past the sell-by date; in regards to gay marriage that day is still a ways off. But on abortion the polling numbers have barely budged since Roe vs Wade, so I don't think pro-Life politics will help or hurt the GOP in the future any more than it does now. Which is to say, it both wins votes and loses votes. The public alas is very confused on the issue and seems to reject absolutes on both sides. As I've said on other blogs, we have a moderately pro-Life majority in this country, who will allow abortion in three circumstances: life of the mother, rape, and their own family's situation whatever it may be
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As I've said on other blogs, we have a moderately pro-Life majority in this country, who will allow abortion in three circumstances: life of the mother, rape, and their own family's situation whatever it may be
Exactly. Like I've said in this country, we actually have a pro-choice majority in this country that thinks they're pro-life but, you know, won't actually outlaw abortion when the opportunity is presented to them.
They mistakenly think the 'middle ground' can be pro-life, without apparently realizing that the middle political positions are pretty firmly owned by the pro-choice movement, and the pro-life movement only has one possible end, whereas the pro-choice movement would, in the end, be okay with various restrictions on abortion. (Although the pro-choice movement can't implement them without getting rid of Roe v. Wade, which they mistakenly still refuse to do.)
This is why I say 'pro-outlawing-abortion' and 'pro-keeping-abortion-legal' as the two sides.
That population's opinion will never change. It is the 'rare, safe, but legal' set. But at some point the misconceptions that keep them thinking they are 'pro-life' will, and, boom, abortion is gone as an issue.
Possibly Roe v. Wade will be overturned and everyone will have to consider their actual positions on what the law should actually say. Perhaps the pro-life people will manage to push the availability of abortion so far away that people will start getting them in back alleys again, and there will be some sob-story deaths. I dunno what will happen, but something will...people can only remain out of sync with the 'movement' they belong to for so long. (And it's only worked so far because the movement has made exactly no progress toward its goals.)
And if the religious right is still active in the GOP at that time, it will be pried, as an issue, out of the GOPs cold death hands, as the final nail in the coffin. To mix some metaphors.
From DavidTC:
As I've said repeatedly, 'Lower taxes' is not actually a political position. It cannot be one. By the 'laws of physics', or at least basic economics, by definition we must be taxed as much as we spend. (Unless we feel like defaulting on our loans and destroying the country, which is not actually an usable option.)
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Late to this thread, but, this is wrong.
Rather, Tax RECEIPTS must be as much as what the government spend.
The relationship of tax rates and tax reciepts is not linear. The Reagan years proved that.
The Reagan tax cuts sent RECIEPTS through the roof.
The problem was that spending was allowed to increase at a greater rate than the revenue from taxes.
But the money taken IN was far greater AFTER the cuts.
In truth, for most of those who say the GOP needs to move past Reagan, their complaints about his "deification," are just a thinly veiled attempt to get real conservatives to jettison their values and to continue to embrace the blatant mediocrity that characterized the eight years of Dubya.
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