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Obama and the torture memos

Friday April 17, 2009

Categories: War

I've been holding off on posting about Obama's release of the torture memos until I could figure out precisely what I thought about them. I'm not there yet, but everybody's talking about it, so I'll open the comboxes up for your views.

One thing that nobody should ever be permitted to say again, after reading these memos: "The United States didn't torture." When President Bush said it, he was a liar. The only question is whether or not he was lying to himself, so that he could sleep at night, or consciously lying to the public for reasons of political expediency.

What next? From the NYT story linked above:

Mr. Obama condemned what he called a "dark and painful chapter in our history" and said that the interrogation techniques would never be used again. But he also repeated his opposition to a lengthy inquiry into the program, saying that "nothing will be gained by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past."

I disagree. Those who approved of torture should be made to defend what they did. The public should be forced to confront these things, and to learn what our government is capable of, so that we might prevent it in the future. I'm inclined to former Reagan Justice official Bruce Fein's view. Excerpt:

In sweeping the Bush-Cheney lawlessness under the rug, Obama has set a precedent whitewashing White House lawlessness in the name of national security that will lie around like a loaded weapon ready for resurrection by any Commander-in-Chief eager to appear "tough on terrorism" and to exploit popular fear. Obama urges that the crimes were justified because the duumvirate acted to protect the nation from international terrorism. But Congress did not create a national security defense to torture or commit FISA felonies.

President Obama should have invoked his pardon power if he believed circumstances justified the crimes by Bush and Cheney and the CIA's interrogators. A pardon or lesser clemency properly exposes the president to political accountability, as Bush discovered with Cheney's chief of staff Scooter Libby and President Ford with former President Nixon. More significant, a pardon does not set a precedent making lawful what was unlawful. It acknowledges the criminality of the underlying activity, and acceptance of the pardon is an admission of guilt by the recipient. Pardons leave unsullied the doctrine of Ex parte Milligan (1866):"The Constitution of the United States is a law for rulers and people, equally in war and peace, and covers with the shield of its protection all classes of men at all times and in all circumstances. No doctrine involving more pernicious consequences was ever invented by the wit of man than that any of its provisions can be suspended during any of the great exigencies of government."

Obama can be summoned against his own non-prosecution policy, secrecy, and non-accountability. In releasing the four OLC memoranda on April 16, Obama asserted: "Enlisting our values [like the rule of law or transparency] in the protection of our people makes us stronger and more secure. A democracy as resilient as ours must reject the false choice between our security and our ideals [like the rule of law or government in the sunshine]... I believe strongly in transparency and accountability... The United States is a nation of laws."

These words should be taken cum granis salis. Bush and Cheney also insisted that everything they did was constitutional and indispensable to thwarting another 9/11. Obama's promise of change has proven nothing more than verbal jugglery.

Shorter Bruce Fein: Hey Obama, a long face is not a moral disinfectant.

But it may not be as dire as that. I cannot see many people thinking putting President Bush and VP Dick Cheney in the dock is wise, to put it mildly. Nor, I think, would there be much public enthusiasm for hauling CIA agents into court. In neither case do I think there's much to be gained, but there is a lot to be lost. But surely there has to be some kind of reckoning for what was done. Salon says that some of the Justice Dept lawyers who gave the legal OK for torture could yet be held accountable in court. Good.

UPDATE: Read the May 10, 2005, memo from OLC chief Steven Bradbury. It's an astonishing document. In it, he flat-out says that Congress and the president have forbidden torture, and he cites their definition of torture. Then he spends over 40 pages of tortured (sorry) legal reasoning trying to evade the plain meaning of the law. It is a stunning example of moral vacuity. Most incredible of all, in the document he recognizes that some of the very same techniques he's legitimating are described by the US State Department as, yes, "torture" when other nations engage in them.

But we Americans, see, we're special.

What a stain the Bush administration was on our nation.

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Comments
Derek Copold
April 18, 2009 12:04 AM

Well, this is probably where we divide Steve: I don't think the general population in places like the Middle East will love us more than they fear/love the local jihadis. It's a mug's game trying to beat those odds without throwing a bit of fear into the mix (remember, snitches need to fear you, too), so we're best off out of the area as much as possible.

steve
April 18, 2009 6:09 AM

LOL, no, they will never love us. We can, and have it appears, achieve respect and some trust. Iraq has been a good case study. We gave up torture and AQI did not. Our soldiers were tough but honest and fair. The Iraqis were not used to seeing people with power who do not abuse it (I am largely citing Bing West's argument here.) When it came time to choose after many years of fighting and death. they chose our side. Did the money help? You bet, but if you read the individual accounts of the soldiers who have written about their dealings, one gets the sense that this was more than a cash transaction. Remember the baseline there Derek. We dont have to be perfect, just pretty good.

Steve

pmorlan
April 18, 2009 2:37 PM
http://wwwdemocracity.blogspot.com/

I think Obama needs to step out of the way and let the law take it's course. If anything, he needs to appoint a Special Prosecutor to investigate the evidence and then let the evidence determine whether there should be prosecutions.

Up to this point the media has made this into a Republican vs. Democrat political issue, when it's not. It's a citizen vs. radical extremist issue. Because of that I think that mainstream conservatives should stop letting this small, radical group, who favor torture, to be the face of the Republican party. Conservatives should actually be in the media leading the charge for Obama to follow the rule of law. If they don't do it soon they risk damaging the Republican party for a long time to come, not to mention the enormous damage that will be done to the country if we adopt torture as a policy.

gravel kucinich paul nader
April 18, 2009 8:07 PM

This is the Lawyered-up Propaganda produced for mass consumption.

The REAL memos are leaking out all over the place ~

Thank you whistle blowers!

Andrew B
April 19, 2009 12:20 AM

Rod:

Torture - the inflicting of bodily pain upon a person that permanently scars or disfigures their body.

Whipping, the rack, chopping off body parts, the iron maiden, skinning alive, crucifixion, impaling, corporal punishment, etc. = torture.

Everything else, which is essentially refined methods of causing mental distress = playing with the mind.

Why don't people understand the distinction?

Most of this "torture" differs little from what we allow in police interrogations, solitary confinement, and maximum security prison policies.

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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