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Nancy Pelosi is lying

Friday May 15, 2009

Categories: Democrats, Torture

I think Nancy Pelosi is lying about whether or not she knew about CIA waterboarding earlier in this decade. I think she did, and is now embarrassed by that fact. Says Marty Peretz:

Every top Democrat is trying to cover her or his ass. Now that they are making such a fuss about the Bush administration having held everything in secret the news that it hadn't is mortifying to the Democrats now in power.

E.D. Kain notes something particularly interesting about Congressional Democrats:

To me, Pelosi's denial (and accusation against the CIA) lays bare a deeper truth about the Democrats. Without Obama they'd be nearly as big a mess as the Republicans. Most of them are complicit in the Bush torture program and the wars. The party is almost headless without Obama - led by the fickle and hardly inspiring Reid/Pelosi duo. After Obama, if conservatives learn anything over the next eight years - yes, I'm predicting it will be eight - unless the Democrats get some sort of order and discipline and more importantly, some grander vision, then I think the GOP should have no trouble at all coming in and cleaning up.
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Cecelia
May 16, 2009 3:14 AM

Celtic Dragon - thanks for that info - your point is well taken and I may be jumping the gun re: thinking she lied.

Truth commission will hopefully get all this out.

Jon
May 16, 2009 4:46 PM

I have no idea whether Nancy Pelosi is lying or not. My psychic powers do not extend to reading the minds of perfect strangers at a distance (granted DC is not too terribly far from Baltimore) But the very question is uninteresting and irrelevant. It's a smokescreen and a diversion to hide the real scandal: the fact that Dick Cheney and his ilk are not lying-- they are proclaiming loudly and truthfully to the whole world that they are proud of their war crimes. And we are letting them get away with this.

Marian
May 16, 2009 9:43 PM

Without actually knowing any of the principals, I tend to believe that Pelosi is telling the truth, and the other participants in the briefing (the CIA and Porter Goss, its former director) are lying. Why? Because deception is part of the CIA's job description.

Katherine
May 17, 2009 12:11 AM

This is exactly a reason why any investigation of torture has to be done by some independent commission and absolutely not through Congress. Members of both parties are too interested in covering their asses to do a thorough and honest job of things.

Max Schadendreude
May 17, 2009 2:10 PM

Katherine
May 17, 2009 12:11 AM
This is exactly a reason why any investigation of torture has to be done by some independent commission and absolutely not through Congress. Members of both parties are too interested in covering their asses to do a thorough and honest job of things.

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True, and while they are at it they need to investigate not only torture, but the CIA's use of waterboarding.

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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