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Endocrine disruptors and frog penises

Monday June 29, 2009

Categories: Environment
Scary stuff. Here's Nick Kristof: Now scientists are connecting the dots with evidence of increasing abnormalities among humans, particularly large increases in numbers of genital deformities among newborn boys. For example, up to 7 percent of boys are now born...
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LutheranChik
June 29, 2009 12:43 PM

I was just reading an article on the problems of maintaining viable populations of slow-reproducing endangered species (sturgeon, for example) because of endocrine disruptors.

Shelley
June 29, 2009 12:51 PM

And don't forget the effects of soy! New Zealand has banned soy infant formula because of this "weak estrogenic effect" upon developing male infants. We are femalizing the enviroment. It *is* scary. But the earth, like the human body, has multiple healing methods. If the endocrine disrupters were stopped, sewage was treated to re-absorb estrogens, then the enviroment would quickly recover. *IF*

EVERYONE should watch a movie called "The Future of Food". You can get it off Netflix. Scary is the understatement of the year!!! Bio-engineering of plants, the Terminator Gene, whose patent is owned by the US Gov't. Watch it!!!

Cecelia
June 29, 2009 1:00 PM

This is an issue I have been talking about for years - 20 years ago I went to a conference on infant health. One of the presentations was on declining male fertility - the cause suspected was estrogen in the food supply. Silly me - I logically thought this would mean we would stop using estrogen to plump up those chicken breats - but no - the presenter said the solution was to improve IVF techniques. ARRRGGH!

Consider PVC's - we eventually banned PVC's - but they are still in our water supply - and having a disastrous effect on sea creatures, most especially whales. So while in another 20 years we may finally get around to addressing the hormone disrupters and estrogen - but the stuff already there will stick around for a long time. So we shouldn't be so sanguine about how easy a problem this would be to solve. Clearly - sewage filtering of at least the estrogen (primarily from discarded birth control and cosmetics) would be a nice start. No longer using estrogen to fatten poultry might be nice too.


Shelley - wow - did not know about the soy - tofu would then be suspect also?

Observer
June 29, 2009 1:25 PM

Apparently it doesn't have to be estrogen (eg birth control pills), all it has to be is like estrogen. I've heard that about soy too, but I haven't researched it.

More overpopulation effects (notice this one, natalists) and more correction, but unfortunately the "correction" (decreased male fertility, deformed male babies) is kind of unpleasant, and also we're affecting other life forms, not just ourselves.

Phreecque Shoux
June 29, 2009 1:28 PM

Did you also know we have the 3rd highest incidence of gynecomastia on
Earth, especially among 3rd world/nonwhite populations? Go the the beaches near LA or Miama-truly freaky. Way too many boys with t-shirts on out of shame.

Kirk
June 29, 2009 2:01 PM

This explains my man-breasts.

Cecelia
June 29, 2009 2:06 PM

Phreecque Shoux - we have also seen a significant lowering of the age at which girls enter puberty - among white females it used to be 13 - now it is 11. Among hispanics ( with a high chicken content in the diet) it is 9 - 10. Short childhoods.

Cecelia
June 29, 2009 2:35 PM

Rod - while you were at Cambridge - the other Berry - Fr Thomas Berry died. These posts remind me - of his enormous contribution to what some have come to call ecotheology. Brian Kaller has some excerpts from Berry's works and interviews on his site.

Hector
June 29, 2009 3:31 PM

Cecelia,

Endocrine disruptors in the water supply may well be (and are, I suspect) one of the causes behind earlier onset of menarche in girls. But there are at least two other widely suspected factors:
1) higher-fat diets which allow for faster maturation and
2) more fatherless homes- there are both theoretical reasons (from population ecology) and some suggestive evidence to believe that growing up without a male relative in the household stimulates girls to enter menarche earlier. Mr. Dreher often argues that growing up without a father present is bad for girls spiritually, well it turns out it's bad for them physically as well. I'll furnish some cites if you want them.

Believe it or not, it appears as though the environmentalists, the social conservatives, and the health-food nuts all identified separate reasons for this problem, and they all may be, to some extent, correct.....

chilly
June 29, 2009 4:54 PM

Scary indeed. Read this about the mutated male deer on the south end of Kodiak Island in Alaska: http://www.kodiakdailymirror.com/?pid=19&id=7502

During WWII, the US military had quite a presence on Kodiak Island. I lived on the island for five years and have wondered if there are old military dumping sites that may have something to do with the mutated deer. Is it possible that containers of waste were dumped and may be breaking down; releasing toxins into the environment? Just my open speculation.

I have since moved back to Southeastern Alaska and thankfully there have not been any similar reports of mutated deer here.

Your Name
June 29, 2009 5:40 PM

There have been anecdotal reports of an increase of deformed frogs for several years now.

There have also been studies of polar bears showing increased genital abnormalities. Big carnivores, such as polar bears by being at the top of the food chain tend to show this damage early, as the chemicals tend to be more concentrated.

robroy
June 29, 2009 6:50 PM

A very interesting thread! People haven't mentioned Bisphenol A. What is interesting about this compound is that it apparently does not follow the "a little is bad, more is worse" toxicology dictum, i.e., linear toxicology response curve. The FDA dismissed problems with this because high doses apparently don't cause problems but small doses do.

Lord Karth
June 29, 2009 7:27 PM

Hector @ 3:31 PM writes:

"2) more fatherless homes- there are both theoretical reasons (from population ecology) and some suggestive evidence to believe that growing up without a male relative in the household stimulates girls to enter menarche earlier. Mr. Dreher often argues that growing up without a father present is bad for girls spiritually, well it turns out it's bad for them physically as well. I'll furnish some cites if you want them."

I don't know about Mr. Dreher, Hector, but I would appreciate a look at them.

Also, does anyone know of any articles containing information about how to avoid or filter these endocrine disruptors out ?

Your servant,

Lord Karth

Dana Ames
June 29, 2009 7:57 PM

We need to treat our water as more precious than gold and clean it up- yesterday. That includes the oceans. We need to make it "profitable" somehow to do this, not simply a matter of gov't regulation or relying on altruism.

elizabeth
June 29, 2009 9:04 PM

Avoid endocrine disruptors by getting a reverse osmosis filter on your drinking water, for starters.

Cecelia
June 30, 2009 1:12 AM

Lord Karth - it is not just exposure from drinking water - handling pesticides, fungicides,fertilizers can transmit. You can breathe it too. Burning plastic is very bad in this regard. It is especially prevalent in fatty foods and it is recommended that you do not store fatty foods in plastic containers nor heat foods in plastic containers. Plastic teethers can leach the substances. Fish can be a problem - some states will give you a handout on how many fish of each type it is recommended to eat given the concentrations in your state. There is a lot of info on the web - google and you will find many recommendations.

Hector - that is fascinating - calls to mind the rat studies on sterility we spoke of yesterday - do you have a citation? Would like to read more.

Andrew B
June 30, 2009 1:13 AM

I have a feeling that if it came down to 5-10% of boys (or more) being born genitally deformed, and 30%+ men lacking sufficient sperm to reproduce, vs. giving up the ever precious birth control pill, that the birth control pill would win, hands down.

Survival of the species, in the mind of its users, is much much less important than their being able to get a little more nookie, whenever and wherever they want it, without worrying about the normal subsequent consequences (babies).

What a sad commentary on our society.

Hector
June 30, 2009 6:22 AM

The birth control pill is one of the most important elements in the demographic transition which has allowed us to, potentially, avoid the threat of overpopulation. I rather think that overpopulation is a bigger threat to the environment than some sterile frogs and alligators. These are big problems, but they should be dealt with by developing new and better birth control pills (perhaps some more slow release types?) The birth control pill is not going away.

And no, babies are not the 'normal' consequence, not for our species anyway, as the probability of pregnancy in any single unprotected sex act is very low. We are one of the few species in which sexual receptivity is not restricted to the fertile period, which should tell you something.

Cecelia and Karth,

Yeah, I will furnish cites later today, I have to run right now.

Hector
June 30, 2009 9:17 AM


Ceceilia and Karth,

Here are a few cites....while it's not my area of ecology (at all) it is a fascinating hypothesis.

Hoier, S. 2003. "Father absence and age at menarche: a test of four evolutionary models." Human Nature 14(3); 209-233.

Moffitt, T.E., Caspi, A., Belsky, J., and Silva, P. 1992. "Childhood experience and the onset of menarche: A test of a sociobiological model." Child Development 63(10): 47-58.

Maestripieri, D., Roney, J., DeBias, N., Duranti, K., and Spaepen, G. 2004. 'Father absence, menarche, and interest in infants among adolescent girls." Developmental Science 7(5): 560-566.

Kanazawa, S. 2001. "Why father absence might precipitate early menarche: The role of polygyny." Evolution and Human Behavior 22(5): 329-334.

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